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PLM-1
04-03-2005, 12:17 PM
I have a customer that had several trees dozed down. There is probably 12 of them. She wants me to cut them up and haul them away. I was thinking $40/man hour. I was thinking that it would probably take at least 2 days by myself. Does that price and time frame sound crazy?? I don't do much of this so I don't really wanna screw myself! :help:

LB1234
04-03-2005, 01:05 PM
IMO....WAY WAY WAY TOO LOW!!

You have too many expenses involved with this for $40/man-hour. (1) the chainsaw...not sure what size you need cause I don't know anything about the bulldozed trees. (2) Chipper...assuming that's what you are going to do with all the limbs. (3) How about the trunks...need to spend time cutting them to size for whatever fireplace...again an assumption. (4) Hauling...what will you do with all the debris?...i.e. wood chips (5) Do you need to rent a log splitter? (6) If you do perform tree work your insurance premium will definitely be higher than just 'landscaping'.

I would charge at least double what you are thinking...not including equipment rental, cost to remove debris, etc.

Just some thoughts...

PLM-1
04-03-2005, 01:09 PM
A little more info. I have a new Shindaiwa 18" 488. She just wants them cut up and hauled off. Most of these trees i could wrap my arms all the way around (if that helps on size). No chipping, splitting or anything. I contacted my insurance company about this as well...he said as long as i'm not dropping the trees i'm fine. In my neck of the woods, a tree company could come drop the tree, cut it up, and haul it off for like $800 each, if that helps.

LB1234
04-03-2005, 01:17 PM
I differ from most on this site...I could care less what others charge. I'm going to charge what I need in order to make my desired profit. Completely guessing, I'm assuming ~100/hr for guy with chainsaw and a helper to start hauling the stuff out. I would charge around 30-40 per cu.yd. of debris removed.

PLM-1
04-03-2005, 01:36 PM
Thanks for your input. I was thinking my price was LOW. Anyone else??

Coffeecraver
04-03-2005, 03:52 PM
I would charge for cutting up trees that are down, 2.50 a ft.

Haul by the load 65-75 per pick-up load

:)

PLM-1
04-03-2005, 08:21 PM
I would charge for cutting up trees that are down, 2.50 a ft.

Haul by the load 65-75 per pick-up load

:)
So $50 for a 20 ft tree? That doesn't sound like enough...

I was thinking about cutting them into about 5 feet sections and then loading them onto my trailer with either my Deere or by hand depending on the weight.

Coffeecraver
04-03-2005, 11:50 PM
20 ft done in less than 15 min sounds like good money

15 min x 20 ft = 50.00 x 4 = 1 Hour

1 hour= 50.00 x 4 =200.00 per hr.

sounds good to me.

crosson lawn
04-04-2005, 12:13 AM
my brother owns a tree service and i own a lawn service. he has all of the equip for the business and he guestimates how many hours it will take to complete and multiplies it times 300. i have a dump trailer and a chainsaw and i guestimate the hours times 100 and if i take a helper i make it 150 per hour. basically i look at the job and think what will i do this job for? and come up with a price that i am happy with and that while i am doing the job i will be happy with and take a water break and smile because i am making money. it depends on what u are happy with. i work hard and i like to work hard but i will not work for free and trees are hard work loading and unloading.

PLM-1
04-04-2005, 12:20 AM
my brother owns a tree service and i own a lawn service. he has all of the equip for the business and he guestimates how many hours it will take to complete and multiplies it times 300. i have a dump trailer and a chainsaw and i guestimate the hours times 100 and if i take a helper i make it 150 per hour. basically i look at the job and think what will i do this job for? and come up with a price that i am happy with and that while i am doing the job i will be happy with and take a water break and smile because i am making money. it depends on what u are happy with. i work hard and i like to work hard but i will not work for free and trees are hard work loading and unloading.
That's kinda where i'm at and trying to do. Since i've never don't anything like this it makes it sorta tough. the other bad part is where it is on the property. I can back down to it with my trailer but it is in a ravine.

out4now
04-04-2005, 12:44 AM
Still trying to figur ethis one out. Ok, so the trees are how big in diamenter, about 24 inch or so? What species of trees? Maybe I missed that when I skimmed through. Big differnece in limbing a small conifer and a larger decidious tree. How wide are the canopys? Will the dump accept the materials without a fee, how far away will the disposal site be? How many trips will you be making? Lot of variables. Good idea to come here and ask. It has to be profitable to you so what point above breakeven do you want to achieve?

crosson lawn
04-04-2005, 12:44 AM
that is good! the harder it is and looks the more it is worth. they will or have gotten estimates already and they are waiting for you or somebody to give them a low bid and will let u do as much as u will and quit because it is too much. bid it high so u are smiling :.) while u are doing the job or u don't need it. u make more money traveling around town doing small jobs like removing a tree for 250 three times a day so don't sell yourself short.

PLM-1
04-04-2005, 01:02 AM
You guys are great i really appreciate your help.

The trees are anywhere from 6" to 36" and i would hate to guess on their canopy size and it's hard to tell because they are already down. There will be no dump fees because i am taking them to my property. I believe these trees are mostly oak but some maple and others are mixed.

I do know that she is NOT getting any other estimates. She wants me to do it. So it is crucial that i don't rape her with the price...that's why i'm asking. This person is one of my BEST clients with wealths of referrals.

Thanks for the advice guys!

LB1234
04-04-2005, 01:57 AM
You guys are great i really appreciate your help.

The trees are anywhere from 6" to 36" and i would hate to guess on their canopy size and it's hard to tell because they are already down. There will be no dump fees because i am taking them to my property. I believe these trees are mostly oak but some maple and others are mixed.

I do know that she is NOT getting any other estimates. She wants me to do it. So it is crucial that i don't rape her with the price...that's why i'm asking. This person is one of my BEST clients with wealths of referrals.

Thanks for the advice guys!


NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

There ARE dump fees...you charge the customer for dumping them on YOUR property...its a legitimate expense. As others have said...don't sell yourself short. If it's a good customer than charge only 25 per yard (or whatever is appropriate) and tell her that you normally would charge 35 or something along this lines.

crosson lawn
04-04-2005, 02:18 AM
so thats why u are selling yourselft short.............. charge her the price.!@!! You know the price but u are scared to lose this cleint. u dumbass u will lose her if u show her u are a scrub by being a scared little *****!!! estimate the hours or days u will spend doing the job and quote the price!! She will be happy and u will be estatic. or else do the job for free.