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Todd's lawncare
04-04-2005, 09:29 PM
Got a guy who wants his yard tilled and new seed . whats the best seed to use and what do you cover it whit . And do you use and chemicals ?
and what will make it grow so fast i cant cut it enough ?

SodKing
04-04-2005, 09:31 PM
Well I could tell you but it took me 4 years to get my Bachelors and thats included in my education...so if you bear with me and you have that much time...at the end of my dissertaion in 4 years you too will know...

Here goes................................................................................................ .................................Seed..........In Pennsylvania I suggest a mix with no more than 15% Perrennial Rye. Your mix will depend on the general conditions of the yard, sunny, shady, wet,dry, I don't know you haven't told us much about the site..

Chemicals...your not licensed so don't bother.....Hire someone who is.

Grow like stink...........yes ;alksdfj oaiejroniuepor8iuapwieuhrpociyrociesurcihrjoaiuyewrpoiuwceiopu

LB Landscaping
04-04-2005, 09:40 PM
What Sodking said!!!! Do a search!!!! Its been beat to death.

Todd's lawncare
04-04-2005, 09:41 PM
Well I could tell you but it took me 4 years to get my Bachelors and thats included in my education...so if you bear with me and you have that much time...at the end of my dissertaion in 4 years you too will know...

Here goes................................................................................................ .................................Seed..........In Pennsylvania I suggest a mix with no more than 15% Perrennial Rye. Your mix will depend on the general conditions of the yard, sunny, shady, wet,dry, I don't know you haven't told us much about the site..

Chemicals...your not licensed so don't bother.....Hire someone who is.

Grow like stink...........yes ;alksdfj oaiejroniuepor8iuapwieuhrpociyrociesurcihrjoaiuyewrpoiuwceiopu
I asked about chemicals so if it does need them i can sub it out.
and when it is sunny it gets full sun and out of the past 10 days its rained 6 of them so you could say its wet. The ground seem to be good dirt but who knows whats under it could be caol ash theres alot around here . and what to cover it with hay ? And should i mix good top soil in when i till ?

SodKing
04-04-2005, 11:06 PM
I think you should sub the whole job out. well since you seem to want the easy answer here it is...(other then using the search feature in this site.)... SEED: buy whatever homedepot is selling the most of. Fertilizer: stay away from anything with crabgrass (or any other pesticide) in the mix. Covering: Hay (sure you will get a boatload of weeds doing this but since you have'nt heard of PENN Mulch, developed by Penn State we won't go there) Add water...voila grass.

as the previous poster said...USE THE SEARCH FEATURE.

Clearly, you are in over your head and "On the Job Training" won't cut it here, you should think about subcontracting.

hole in one lco
04-04-2005, 11:14 PM
I would strongly suggest waiting till fall to seed this lawn. In full sun you are just preparing the ground for weeds. If you wont a list on how to ill give it to you.

topsites
04-04-2005, 11:30 PM
I asked about chemicals so if it does need them i can sub it out.
and when it is sunny it gets full sun and out of the past 10 days its rained 6 of them so you could say its wet. The ground seem to be good dirt but who knows whats under it could be caol ash theres alot around here . and what to cover it with hay ? And should i mix good top soil in when i till ?

Man Fuggalldatcrap, you get complicated with this you'll waste tons of time and money... But I will say that it's kinda like cooking: What works for one person may or may not work for you, and likely you'll want to develop your own recipe over the years.

But here's my own Simple and stupid so even I can do it instrucs:
Aerate and plop down 25lbs of Ky31 per every 5-8k sq. feet, 50lbs for 8-15k sq. feet. I always buy 50lb bags, 45 bucks/each. If I need 25lbs, half-bag.
Half or full, that's the only question.
...
No chems, no straw, no soil, no sprinkly-winkly bs. Aerate and spread a TON of Ky31, works everytime.
Keep in mind, Ky31 = Tall Fescue.
Sayonara.

HOOLIE
04-04-2005, 11:36 PM
Just install some AstroTurf...It's always green, the customer might not realize its not real grass and still pay to have it mowed weekly...it's a darn good solution.

Seriously though, when it's something you really have no experience with, its better to pass it on or sub to someone else.

sheshovel
04-04-2005, 11:42 PM
Man Fuggalldatcrap, you get complicated with this you'll waste tons of time and money... But I will say that it's kinda like cooking: What works for one person may or may not work for you, and likely you'll want to develop your own recipe over the years.

But here's my own Simple and stupid so even I can do it instrucs:
Aerate and plop down 25lbs of Ky31 per every 5-8k sq. feet, 50lbs for 8-15k sq. feet. I always buy 50lb bags, 45 bucks/each. If I need 25lbs, half-bag.
Half or full, that's the only question.
...
No chems, no straw, no soil, no sprinkly-winkly bs. Aerate and spread a TON of Ky31, works everytime.
Keep in mind, Ky31 = Tall Fescue.
Sayonara.

Topsites ...you don't bother to prep the soil before seeding a new lawn??No amending?no tilling?No grade raking ?No removing debri?No rolling ?No topper?That's really sad and too bad.IMAO

SodKing
04-04-2005, 11:46 PM
'cmon dude hes the hoodie of lawn care...he's too cool fo dat chit..

MMLawn
04-05-2005, 01:06 AM
I'd tell you but I don't have time because I have 1,000 pounds of special sports blend seed that I have to get down at one job tomorrow so as I said I'm too bsuy putting down seed to answer a seeding question.

spoolinaround
04-05-2005, 02:50 AM
I'd tell you but I don't have time because I have 1,000 pounds of special sports blend seed that I have to get down at one job tomorrow so as I said I'm too bsuy putting down seed to answer a seeding question.
LOL



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Todd's lawncare
04-05-2005, 01:39 PM
I'd tell you but I don't have time because I have 1,000 pounds of special sports blend seed that I have to get down at one job tomorrow so as I said I'm too bsuy putting down seed to answer a seeding question.
what did you have to come home for lunch ?? get to work then

muddstopper
04-05-2005, 07:05 PM
What a helpful crowd. Such good advise

Todd, dont pay these people any mind, they first came to this site looking for info too at one time, now they just hang around to throw punches in the new guys face.

To answer your question. Not knowing anything about your site makes it hard to give a good answer. If the soil isnt right neither will the resuts be. Do a soil test and find what the soil needs. Contact you county extention office for seed suggestions. While you are waiting on the soil test results, have a licensed applicator spray the area with round up, its probably getting warm enough in your area for it to actually work. This will kill off all the old grass and weeds. When you get the soil test results back, apply reccomendations to the lawn and till in. Rake smooth and remove all debries. Broadcast seed and cover with straw, not hay. Water daily, just enough to keep the ground moist not muddy for first two weeks. Deep watering isnt neccesary for newly seeded area. After germination water less frequently but for longer periods of time. Any water that is ponding or running off is wasted. Forget the fast growing grass, this will require high nitrogen applications. The nitrogen along with the moisture will cause fungus, especially as the weather warms up and the humidity starts to climb. At the first sign of any fungus have a licensed applicator apply a funcide, dont wait until the lawn starts turning brown in big patches, by then its to late and you will have to overseed in the fall.
Mow first time when grass reaches 4 inches high to a mowed height of three inches. Mowing shorter is subject to pull the new grass out of the ground. Make sure mower blades are sharp. Higher mowing heights will reduce weed competition and reduce evaporation of moisture from the soil. Avoid high nitrogen fertilizers in the summer months as the new grass will not have a mature root system and the fast top growth will require more irrigation, again, moisture, fertilizer and humidity could lead to more fungus.

sheshovel
04-06-2005, 03:00 AM
Yea and keep everybody and their dogs off too intell it's strong.