21" Mower - Has Anyone Used.....

[RB]

I was wondering if anyone has ever tried the 21" Landscapers Supply Commercial Push Mower w/metal rear bag and 5.5 Honda engine?

We use 21" mowers a lot (Lawnboy Commercial Duty w/side bags) and I'm happy with them, but, maybe I'm just used to them.

I'd like to know if the landscapers supply mower:

1. Vacuums and bags as well as my mower?
2. Are the handles stiff?
3. Will they mow tall grass in spring?

To me they look fine, but I've never seen anyone use them, or others like them, e.g., ransomes, tru-cut, or sensation.

They are only $549.99, which is about $200 cheaper than a commercial duty lawnboy.

What do you think?

thank you very much.

Ron

[Mark]

I have always used the Snapper commercials with Robin 2cycle, But this last yr i purchased a Toro 21 Proline with the 2cycle suzuki. But i don't like the cut as well and the bagging system is not as good as the snapper.Also don't care for the wheel adjustments cost me 922 dollars. I wish now i would have got another snapper,and saved the 200 dollar diff. I see several guys useing the lawnboys. But never seen the other brand you were talking about. Marks Mowing Service

[65hoss]

Isn't it interesting the curiosity of the Landscapers equipement lately? I didn't even know they had a 21". Its hard to imagine anyone getting a 21" wrong.

[Runner]

I would think the same thing would apply to this as the bigger mowers. Why risk it? If we know what the major brands will do, and the service we can expect from them, why not just stick with them? Myself, my trim mowers are Snapper, but they aren't the commercial grade. They are the little 19" high vac cut with the 3.5 horse 2 cycle Tecumseh engine. These were bought back in about 1983-84, and are STILL going strong! At the time they were the (and probably still are) the lightest weight mower you could operate. I loved the solid handles for pivoting, and they were a breeze lifting them up and down to use. I can still hear the ladies voice at the shop where I purchased these saying; "If you're cutting commercially, these aren't the mowers you want." I remember telling her that I saw these mowers run for 60 hours a week for atleast an entire season with the company I used to work for. I knew better. Now, I realize that these aren't built like commercial mowers, but they don't have all the weight to them either. Let alone the cost.

[smburgess]

I use to buy the 21" Toro commercial 2 cycles, but it got harded to justfy nearly $1000.00 for a 21" cut that you may only use a couple of hours a day. Two years ago I bought a Toro Personal Pace (with the aluminum deck)to try out, my crews loved it, lighter than the commercial, and they said it's ground speed was faster. The differences between the machines; PPace- change oil a couple times a week; original wheels wear out quick, just replace with commercial wheels; weld handles where they meet. Other than those adjustments I love them, I bought 3 more three weeks ago, and at half the price of the commercial 21".

[lsylvain]

As far as 21" go I say buy cheap and toss out. I can't see paying $1000 for a 21" either. I bought a 21" cheapo at lowes (under $100) one day when my toro died on me and I needed to finish out the day. It basically paid for itself that day and it did a good job cutting. Now I use that same mower more than my toro it's lighter to lift in and out of the truck, i don't worry about it terring up, and it still has the same oil in it as the day I bought it 3 years ago. All i do is keep the blades sharp and keep gas in it. When it dies I'll probable just buy another one just like it.

[Richard Martin]

With the small trim mowers I try to use whatever someone will give me. The year before last it was a 18" Crapsman, last year it was a 21" Murray (that still runs, wanna buy it?). Just yesterday I picked up a Lawn Boy 21 Gold Series self-propelled mower that one of my customers had in their shed. They had left the gas in it from the last time they used it which was at least 4 years ago and the carb is totally gummed up. When I got it home I put it in the shop and a mouse came running out of it. The cat is presently taking care of the mouse and I am taking care of the carb. Here Kitty, Kitty, Kitty. Daddy's got lunch for you. Heh heh.

[GrassMaster]

Hello Everybody:

Snappers are reasonably priced, easy to work on & everybody gots parts for Snappers. BUTT....

Then we stepped up, got it over with & bought a Honda. The only 21" mower I would buy & only one I would cut my residence with. I'm a Power Equipment Dealer & I can get any I want at a good price. If the 21" Honda cost $1,500 I would still buy it.

I know not many cut in the rain, but sooner or later the rain monster gets you. The Honda will cut wet grass, bag wet grass in the rain & almost impossible to clog up!

Since I had my heat stroke, I hold out if possible & if it looks like it's going to rain, I'll fire up the mower. But rain has been rare in JawJa the past few years.

Sometimes we had a few special lawns we did, that was out of the way, nobody could see us, the customers didn't mind & we had extra time. LOL, we would cut on the sprinklers & cut it. It took longer because we had to do it arse backwards as far as maintaining. The guys really liked that, just got to watch those heads. :-)

[Turfcouncil]

I would have to say that my honda 21" has been pretty much bullet proof. I have ALOT of problems with it clooging with wet lawns. if it is dry the mower works its best. My snapper does a good job too but i miss the blade clutch that the honda has. YOu only have to start it once and not every time you empty the bag or go over objects like hoses and etc.

[GrassMaster]

Hello Everybody:

Clogging is very unusual on the Hondas, have you had the RPM's & Govenor checked lately?

The main reason we liked the Honda was the BBC & it not clogging. Ofcouse they have the Best Engine Too!

[leeslawncare]

I've got a 21 " snapper comm. model that i got oh in 96 (i think) gave 800 bucks for it . now ...i hardly ever use it .i got a 36" 3 yrs ago (J.D.)an the only thing i do with it is my front lawn which golf courses die for !!!LOL
It made me a ton of $ $ an i've never had a problem with it .I worked it HARD for 2 yrs till i got wise an got a bigger mower.Thats my opion...good luck .

[mdb landscaping]

we had a honda 21 inch mower for 14 years. we sold it because it was old, but it was running like a tank when we sold it. we bought another small 21 inch mower and it seems to be built just as well as the last. i wouldnt waste my time with the landscaper mower. i havent ever seen anyone with them. buy a lawnboy, snapper, toro or honda.

[RB]

Thanx for everyone's resposne.

I think I'll just stick with my lawnboy commercial mowers.

Ron

[Strawbridge Lawn]

My Honda SX215 is 8 years old and has gone through every task I needed done. Wheels are worn out and the flywheel seems to making noise as rope recoils back. Til now that's all the problem it has given me. Starts 2nd pull. I will likely go with the 2 speed commercial steel deck next time (2 years)$625.00 and another 6-8 years minimum my guess. 85-90 bucks p/year is not unreasonable.

[65hoss]

My honda 21" commercial was bought in the early 80's and it still cranks on the 1st pull. I actually wore the wheels off of it before the mower. I had to replace the rubber on two of the wheels this past season. I don't use it much anymore. I probably only use it about 20-30 minutes a week anymore. So, with that in mind I probably have another 10 yrs in the mower. :) Its the mower I had when I was cutting as a kid.

[cleancut]

Unless anybody wants a recount, I would have to say that Honda is the winner...!!!I usually just buy a cheap murray that has a mulching plug (good in small back yards that have pools)....I might try a Honda this year..I already have a 52" Honda wb and it's a great mower...Derrick