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DFW Area Landscaper
04-15-2005, 12:14 PM
I've finally grown my business to the point that I can buy fertilizer by the pallet. I am in the process of negotating a 2 pallet (2 ton) purchase of 34-3-11 from Lesco.

The fertilizer is 34-3-11 with no iron. 80% quick release. 20% slow release.

What is a good price per bag (50 pound) when purchasing two tons at a time?

Thanks,
DFW Area Landscaper

A.T.A.K
04-15-2005, 12:23 PM
We got our 24-2-11 at $7.50 but we bought 14 tons at a time

DFW Area Landscaper
04-15-2005, 12:35 PM
$7.50????

Wow. Lesco is at $11.95 a bag and the agent is working to get a better price for me. I still think he'll be above $11 a bag on this.

What percentage of that 24-2-11 is slow release?

Later,
DFW Area Landscaper

marko
04-15-2005, 03:29 PM
My price in Chicago (buying 1 bag) not a ton is $12.23. Thats on the 34-3-11 20% PPSCU. I have spent less than $1,000 at my lesco (no discounts yet)

DFW Area Landscaper
04-15-2005, 04:13 PM
They said they could get me $11.35 a bag.

That's a 7% discount for a guy who is buying by the pallet as opposed to a bag at a time. Not much of a discount. What would they charge a home owner for a bag of this stuff? It seems there are home owners in there every other time I stop in. The salesmanship and education required to sell a bag of fert to a home owner is tremendous. If Lesco doesn't want me shopping price for two tons of the stuff in a single order, they ought to price accordingly.

Problem is, I don't know of another wholesale fertilizer distributor in the area. I will find one soon enough and compare prices.

Later,
DFW Area Landscaper

marko
04-15-2005, 04:33 PM
I hear you. Price is different by zone though. Their "retail" price is $35. You need to get set up on an account. Then you can go online, get all pricing and availability.

A.T.A.K
04-15-2005, 04:49 PM
My price is when I by over 12 tons at a time and it's 50% slow release.

wally world III
04-15-2005, 05:01 PM
i get mine by the ton at my local feed mill................

now have over 252 clients that i service ...........

rich think lawns, look great..........

best lawns you'll ever will see period....................

cost per bag 7.75 ~~~~ 5.25 depending on compoooosition

latest prices ............

Mark McC
04-15-2005, 09:16 PM
80% quick release. 20% slow release.

I don't pretend to be an expert, but why would you apply 80% quick release in the spring to lawns you have to mow?

Mowingman
04-15-2005, 10:45 PM
I just bought 1 ton, in 50lb bags. It is 15-5-10. Paid $10.00/bag, or $400.00/ton. Last year I paid $7.50/bag at the same supplier.

qps
04-15-2005, 11:41 PM
I don't pretend to be an expert, but why would you apply 80% quick release in the spring to lawns you have to mow?

No kidding....I use the lowest N for round one I can get...10% with 40% SCU...

T.E.
04-16-2005, 12:00 AM
Just bought a ton of 50% slow release for 325.00. Equals 8.125 per bag.

morturf
04-16-2005, 12:03 AM
2 tons is not much fertilizer. I can see why they are not offering you a great deal. Just my thoughts. I got my 40% scu for 8.09 and I got my uflexx for 10.50. But that is truck load pricing.

Mike

nelbuts
04-16-2005, 05:38 PM
Mark, I was thinking the same thing. Why 80% quick release and why no iron? I use the slowest release possible with the highest iron. Longer feeding, darker greens, and less applications will save you more money with better results in the long run.

cemars
04-16-2005, 06:22 PM
I don't pretend to be an expert, but why would you apply 80% quick release in the spring to lawns you have to mow?

Good question, maybe some of the "experts" will offer thier opinions on this, but in general spring fert should be negligible and if applied at more than 1/2 # N, slow release should be 50% or more. Excess N in spring, while it makes the lawn look great for a month or two, will cause excessive top growth, stress, and increased propensity for disease. If you want screaming green, fert heavy in the fall or apply copious amounts of iron (Fe) in the spring.

Vaughan's Lawns
04-21-2005, 06:12 PM
Guy's
When buying fertilizers some of the thing you need to look at is your cost per M.
Lets say you buy 24-2-11 @ $10.00 per bag or .83.3 per M @ 12000 sfft.

You should pay $14.16 for 34-3-11 for the same cost per 1000.

I like high N with slow. Better coverage, less trips to the truck to fill the spreader.

Just my thoughts,
Mike

LonniesLawns
04-21-2005, 07:09 PM
You also have to look at the contents of the bag. I hardly ever get my fertilizer for less than 20 bucks a bag -- even when ordering a dozen pallets or so.

21-0-21 UF/ Nutralene/sop is my standard fert for this year. Just slightly more than $20/bag -- but it is all high priced ingredients for superior results.

An organic that I use alot of 10-2-8 -- just under $20/bag.

And then there is 6-2-0 that I get for about $5 a bag.

GrowinGreeninc
04-21-2005, 10:45 PM
2 tons is not much fertilizer. I can see why they are not offering you a great deal. Just my thoughts. I got my 40% scu for 8.09 and I got my uflexx for 10.50. But that is truck load pricing.

Mike
Mike,
Where are you getting your uflexx from? I ordered 20 tons and paid considerably more. ican take truck load shippments for that price.

cemars
04-22-2005, 06:21 PM
Mike,
Where are you getting your uflexx from? I ordered 20 tons and paid considerably more. ican take truck load shippments for that price.

The lowest price I have gotten on UFEX is over $14.00 a bag, and i use 20-25 tons a year. Let us in on the secret Mike, I'll send you a finders fee!

ThreeWide
04-23-2005, 09:07 AM
DFW,

I'm sure you are planning to use this on Bermuda. Why are you planning a product with 80% quick release??

Consider this......

My most recent round on Bermuda was a Lebanon 25-2-5 with 50% slow release in MESA form. The per bag rate was only $15. I'm sure you could get a good deal purchasing by the pallet.

cemars
04-27-2005, 07:56 PM
2 tons is not much fertilizer. I can see why they are not offering you a great deal. Just my thoughts. I got my 40% scu for 8.09 and I got my uflexx for 10.50. But that is truck load pricing.

Mike

Still waiting on your reply on the UFLEX moturf, or were you sending out some B.S.

DFW Area Landscaper
05-02-2005, 02:53 PM
Turfunlimited,

Yes, this fert will be going down on bermuda, primarily.

All I know is, I've tried the Lesco 25-2-5 in the past. If applied at 2# nitrogen per thousand, it just doesn't produce any green up. I have to apply about 3 or 4 pounds per thousand to get any real green up. I think their 25-2-5 product is 50% slow release.

Later,
DFW Area Landscaper

LonniesLawns
05-02-2005, 04:53 PM
I am a c3 turf man - so I usually abstain from c4 discussions -- but.....

a 25-2-5 from lesco would be a ppscu product. No matter what the slow release percentage - it would not make agronomic, economic or common sense to put down more than 1#N/m in any one application -- you would lose most of your nitrogen to volatization and leaching. If you are applying 4# of N in one application using ppscu product you are killing your grass. No matter the % of ppscu.

I occasionally put down as much as 4# of nitrogen in one application -- but that is with a straight uf type product.