fertilizer prices on pre-m

[ant]

what are you guys paying?
got my prices today
19-3-7 .86%pre-m/30%scu=13.00?
same but 25-2-5 =14.50 bag
lesco products
what do you big guys think?
i go through 2+ pallets.
ant

[Rodney Anderson]

Anthony, you wated to long to get your first application material. Urea prices have jumped about 60.00 bucks per ton since January. Most of our raw urea is coming from Korea. The companiesher e in the states are selling their natural gas and not producing urea. I got Shaw's w/ Pre-m for $ 9.40
a bag 9 ton and my round two material also aon the second week of January. Early bird gets the worm or you pay. Supply and demand, fert, prices will moderate later in the year they always do.

[ant]

hi rodney,nice to here from you .i just woke up from a long winter nap,called lesco and there prices went up.!
what is your analysis on the shaws?
if i read your post write,did you apply an application already?
anthony

[SLSNursery]

Anthony -

We have a couple of different brands of Pre-emergent in stock now, including the Shaw's brand, which is comparable to the Lesco product you have priced. Our prices for sale to landscapers buying 1-2 pallets of the product are about what you have quoted. Prices for less, like by the bag, are higher.

Since we re-wholesale product, I locked in last year to avoid the jump in Urea prices which Rodney mentioned. We just received a trailer load, so I know Spring is just around the corner!

Rodney - I suspect that you pay pretty low prices for Shaw's brand because it is made in your backyard?

[Rodney Anderson]

The analysis on the product is 19-3-8 25% scu.
I m not sure were it was made its in my warehouse but it comes from Shaw's with their bag and logo.

[DIGEM]

what are people paying for spraying their yards for thistles ,dandelions,chickweed?

[Evan528]

Lesco's prices dont seem much higher than last year. You will regret it if you put down 25% nitrogen.... in the spring the grass grows a inch a day as it is!

[Rodney Anderson]

The product doesnt have 25% urea, 25% scu. When applied Ill be appling just under 3/4 lb. N. In the fall I only apply 1/2 N and a full lb. K. The lawn wont get to far out control. Besides I dont mow.Dont need the hassels.

[Mscotrid]

If it makes a difference Lesco does not buy Korean urea. They have a six month reserve on US urea. To say Shaw has Pre-M is mis leading, Pre-M is a trade mark for Lesco. Shaw might have Pendimethilan but not the Pre-m.

Another key difference Lesco use PPscu which is polymer a more controled release the the cheaper old school scu..

I havent used much Shaw but what i did use one time was dusty and dirty.

I'll stay with Lesco, better service and they have a strong commitment to th green industry..

just my opinion

[Rodney Anderson]

come to ohio and see how poorly you ac be treated by lesco. I do not patronize them! I've been using Shaw's for 11 years and have been very happy. I thought pendamethalin was a product of Cyanamid.

[jerry alexander20]

what are you guys paying?
got my prices today
19-3-7 .86%pre-m/30%scu=13.00?
same but 25-2-5 =14.50 bag
lesco products
what do you big guys think?
i go through 2+ pallets.
ant

you can get organic fertilizer or regular fertilizer for $13.00 & 14.50/bag? what size bags weight? and where do you get it from? lesco sells at these prices? because i have one 2 miles from me.

[turf hokie]

Dude,

You dug up am 8 year old post. So the answer to your question is.....NO you cant get pre-m for those prices.

[RigglePLC]

Oh shucks! I was thinking prices had come way down--until I looked at the dates of the posts. Ancient history.

[Evan528]

Those were the days.......

[MnLefty]

Some of you guys that go through a large amount will see prices near $13/bag for whatever pre-emergent you're looking for, maybe even less depending on where you are, where you buy it, and timing. Fert prices have been down again for awhile, and both Dow and Syngenta have recently dropped pricing on the Dimension and Barricade tech material used to make your favorite combo product.

[turf hokie]

I can only dream....

[rcreech]

Some of you guys that go through a large amount will see prices near $13/bag for whatever pre-emergent you're looking for, maybe even less depending on where you are, where you buy it, and timing. Fert prices have been down again for awhile, and both Dow and Syngenta have recently dropped pricing on the Dimension and Barricade tech material used to make your favorite combo product.


Its been in the barn now for 2 months and we paid a bit less then $13.00,


I think all fert will climb as time goes!

[jerry alexander20]

Its been in the barn now for 2 months and we paid a bit less then $13.00,


I think all fert will climb as time goes!

yo can any body out there call me regarding getting for these prices? because i can not find it no cheaper the $25-29 dollars per bag...will your lesco ship it to delaware for these prices... I need at least 2-pallets for this up coming spring...I m also looking for a motorized spray unit, with the hose set up all ready? Is fertilizer with pre-mergents it them cheaper this time of the year? my number is 302-547-1279.any advice please help!

[turf hokie]

YO, You're not going to get RCreech pricing. He buys tractor trailer loads, he buys wayyyyy early, he also is very close to the manufacturing plants.

I buy trailer loads and pay more than he does just based on shipping to get it to me.

You buying 2 pallets is not a ton of buying power. Although the prices you quoted do seem high, look around locally, JDL is not the only game in town.

It also sounds like you need to do some research and learn a bit more about products and applications and not just focus on how to get a bag of fert cheaper

[americanlawn]

Ditto, RC knows his stuff. Our best prices the past year or 2 come from CPS & Zimco. They both use several suppliers, but most of the time it's made in Eau Claire, WI by EC Grow.

[jalderfer63]

Jerry try synatech they are in southeast Pa.they might come down there.Also A plus Bob has a motorized spreader with sprayer.Not ready yet but maybe later this winter.

[ofiguy]

Hey guys
Let me know what you are looking for and I may be able to help you out. I get good numbers for the area from my supplier in Oley. They handle two brands of fert.,seed, equip. yadayadayada. He has been able to save me a good chunk of money across the board.

[jerry alexander20]

ofiguy, i m looking for pre-mergent fertilizer for spring of 2010! can u get me any? I m a landscaper/lawn care company in bear, Delaware. i paid $300.00 per metric ton over in china. i purchased 2-metric tons of organic fertilizer. and had it shipped here which total cost was $1250.00 for 4442 lbs. that was including all shipping and customs clearence, and transportation delivered 25min from my home, and i went to pick it up.each bag weights 88.8lbs. and there is 50 bags. let me know if you can help me out...my number is 302-547-1279.....thanks jerry alexander...new castle lawn and land scaping of delaware!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jerry alexander20]

Hey guys
Let me know what you are looking for and I may be able to help you out. I get good numbers for the area from my supplier in Oley. They handle two brands of fert.,seed, equip. yadayadayada. He has been able to save me a good chunk of money across the board.

please, i m looking for 1-2 pallets of pre--mergent fertilizer for next spring, 2010............what can you get me??????????i just paid $1250 for 4442lbs of organic fertilizer..it is from china.

[phasthound]

please, i m looking for 1-2 pallets of pre--mergent fertilizer for next spring, 2010............what can you get me??????????i just paid $1250 for 4442lbs of organic fertilizer..it is from china.

It's too bad you choose to spend that amount on "who knows what?" from China. I could have had 6,000 lbs of Nutrients PLUS 4-3-1 organic fertilizer (made in USA) delivered to your shop in Delaware for $1356.00.

[jerry alexander20]

YO, You're not going to get RCreech pricing. He buys tractor trailer loads, he buys wayyyyy early, he also is very close to the manufacturing plants.

I buy trailer loads and pay more than he does just based on shipping to get it to me.

You buying 2 pallets is not a ton of buying power. Although the prices you quoted do seem high, look around locally, JDL is not the only game in town.

It also sounds like you need to do some research and learn a bit more about products and applications and not just focus on how to get a bag of fert cheaper

YO DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW ABOUT FERTILIZER I JUST HAVE NOT BOUGHT IT FOR MY SELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WORKED FOR A LAWN CARE COMPANY FOR 13 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT FERTILIZER WILL DO AND NOT DO!!!!!!!!!! CAN YO GET ME 4442LBS OF ORGANIC FERTILIZER FOR $1250.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING AND DELIVERY? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT IF YOU DO CALL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW THERE IS DIFFERENT PRICES OUT THERE FOR DIFFERENT NKP'S. AND DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR..BECAUSE I DO NOT HARDLY APPLY AND FERTILIZER IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.... I ONLY SPRAY OR PUT DOWN INSECT CONTROL...302-547-1279,,,,,THEN I PUT DOWN HEAVY FERT IN THE FAll all the wat up to dec 1st... weather permitting...

[phasthound]

YO DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW ABOUT FERTILIZER I JUST HAVE NOT BOUGHT IT FOR MY SELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WORKED FOR A LAWN CARE COMPANY FOR 13 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT FERTILIZER WILL DO AND NOT DO!!!!!!!!!! CAN YO GET ME 4442LBS OF ORGANIC FERTILIZER FOR $1250.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING AND DELIVERY? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT IF YOU DO CALL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW THERE IS DIFFERENT PRICES OUT THERE FOR DIFFERENT NKP'S. AND DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR..BECAUSE I DO NOT HARDLY APPLY AND FERTILIZER IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.... I ONLY SPRAY OR PUT DOWN INSECT CONTROL...302-547-1279,,,,,THEN I PUT DOWN HEAVY FERT IN THE FAll all the wat up to dec 1st... weather permitting...

Dude, what are you shouting for? :)
Go ahead, by from China. They have a great track record of sending us quality products. :dizzy:

As I stated before, I can deliver to your door 6,000lbs of organic fertilizer for $1356.00. This is fert you can trust. Is my math wrong or is this not a better deal?

[gregory]

i would have to say thats a way better deal and it made here in the usa where you know what your getting and i would bet its lead free......

[jerry alexander20]

It's too bad you choose to spend that amount on "who knows what?" from China. I could have had 6,000 lbs of Nutrients PLUS 4-3-1 organic fertilizer (made in USA) delivered to your shop in Delaware for $1356.00.

yo dude, if you can get me that amount close to that price this spring- mid summer. i will purchase it from you...i have been maintaining 90 percent of my lawns for the past 7-8 years... all they need is pre-mergent in the spring and dry fert the rest of the year. and insect control in the summer.we used to use nutrients plus where i used to work.' not a lot but some times...i think organic is the best fertilizer for any lawn..i believe it helps the turf hold its color longer in the fall and green up early in the spring..straight potassium will help green up a lawn in weeks before most lawns in the early spring...it is also better in the summer month, less chance of burning and srtressing the lawn.if u are serious on that quote, the when in order again i will be in touch with you definetly, because that is a very good price...do they come in50lb bags? and is that 3-pallets..would you be able to get me 1-pallet of a pre-mergent for 2010 spring.. by mid feb-to end of feb.i know the price may change but what ever u can do would be a big help thanks jerry alexander...

[rcreech]

YO DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW ABOUT FERTILIZER I JUST HAVE NOT BOUGHT IT FOR MY SELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WORKED FOR A LAWN CARE COMPANY FOR 13 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT FERTILIZER WILL DO AND NOT DO!!!!!!!!!! CAN YO GET ME 4442LBS OF ORGANIC FERTILIZER FOR $1250.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING AND DELIVERY? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT IF YOU DO CALL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW THERE IS DIFFERENT PRICES OUT THERE FOR DIFFERENT NKP'S. AND DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR..BECAUSE I DO NOT HARDLY APPLY AND FERTILIZER IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.... I ONLY SPRAY OR PUT DOWN INSECT CONTROL...302-547-1279,,,,,THEN I PUT DOWN HEAVY FERT IN THE FAll all the wat up to dec 1st... weather permitting...

Its not NKP....it is NPK....but who is keeping track! :)

[Marcos]

YO DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW ABOUT FERTILIZER I JUST HAVE NOT BOUGHT IT FOR MY SELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WORKED FOR A LAWN CARE COMPANY FOR 13 YEARS. I KNOW WHAT FERTILIZER WILL DO AND NOT DO!!!!!!!!!! CAN YO GET ME 4442LBS OF ORGANIC FERTILIZER FOR $1250.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING AND DELIVERY? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT IF YOU DO CALL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! I KNOW THERE IS DIFFERENT PRICES OUT THERE FOR DIFFERENT NKP'S. AND DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR..BECAUSE I DO NOT HARDLY APPLY AND FERTILIZER IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.... I ONLY SPRAY OR PUT DOWN INSECT CONTROL...302-547-1279,,,,,THEN I PUT DOWN HEAVY FERT IN THE FAll all the wat up to dec 1st... weather permitting...

Holy monkey, dude.
I don't think the world's gonna come to a screaching halt JUST because you paid $14.20 / bag for 2+ tons of low octane panda bear poop compost & rice meal.

[Marcos]

... all they need is pre-mergent in the spring and dry fert the rest of the year...

Not necessarily so.

Really, normal mom & pop residential turf doesn't need pre-emergent at all except maybe for around high stress areas like hard-edge perimeters like sidewalks & driveway edges.
They dry out 1st and get hotter, obviously, so they're likely to have more problems with weeds in general.

If the focus of the vendor & the customer both are on TURF DENSITY (the customer being informed of proper mowing / irrigation habits, etc) together as a team they can reduce and possibly eliminate entirely the use of selective herbicides by means of developing a turf that over time will in essence choke out (most) weeds before they ever get a chance to gain much if any foot hold.

A lot of focus has to be on seeding for thin &/or weedy lawns.
I know that Rodney understands this. :waving:

And smarter cultural practices like this will be part of the overall trend of 'greener' lawn care during the balance of this 21st century we're now in.

[phasthound]

yo dude, if you can get me that amount close to that price this spring- mid summer. i will purchase it from you...i have been maintaining 90 percent of my lawns for the past 7-8 years... all they need is pre-mergent in the spring and dry fert the rest of the year. and insect control in the summer.we used to use nutrients plus where i used to work.' not a lot but some times...i think organic is the best fertilizer for any lawn..i believe it helps the turf hold its color longer in the fall and green up early in the spring..straight potassium will help green up a lawn in weeks before most lawns in the early spring...it is also better in the summer month, less chance of burning and srtressing the lawn.if u are serious on that quote, the when in order again i will be in touch with you definetly, because that is a very good price...do they come in50lb bags? and is that 3-pallets..would you be able to get me 1-pallet of a pre-mergent for 2010 spring.. by mid feb-to end of feb.i know the price may change but what ever u can do would be a big help thanks jerry alexander...

Jerry,

I'm not making the price up. :) All Nutrients PLUS formulations are drop shipped by the pallets and truckload. 40 x 50lb bags per pallet.

And stop calling me "yo dude"! The name is Barry. :waving:

[rcreech]

Jerry,

I'm not making the price up. :) All Nutrients PLUS formulations are drop shipped by the pallets and truckload. 40 x 50lb bags per pallet.

And stop calling me "yo dude"! The name is Barry. :waving:

Yo Dude...just kidding Barry!

I got your voicemail and I have been running 90 mph trying to finish up corn. Will get with you soon.

Thanks for the call!

RC

[jbturf]

Jerry,

I'm not making the price up. :) All Nutrients PLUS formulations are drop shipped by the pallets and truckload. 40 x 50lb bags per pallet.

And stop calling me "yo dude"! The name is Barry. :waving:

Hello Barry,
can u send me some options and pricing for a trailer of
fert + dimension .15% ?

havent heard from Jim A. in a while
thanks
Josh

[phasthound]

Yo Dude...just kidding Barry!

I got your voicemail and I have been running 90 mph trying to finish up corn. Will get with you soon.

Thanks for the call!

RC

Talk to you soon.

[phasthound]

Hello Barry,
can u send me some options and pricing for a trailer of
fert + dimension .15% ?

havent heard from Jim A. in a while
thanks
Josh

Check your PM.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

DUDE
WHAT?
DUDE
WHAT?
HOW MUCH?
DUDE
WHAT?
couldent help myself Barry.

[jerry alexander20]

yea i know its npk.. don't ask me where i came up with nkp.i will be in touch over the winter, regarding the fertilizer.is that your number? i will call you....hopefully we can do business,,,,,,,,,,,,,..........

[rcreech]

yea i know its npk.. don't ask me where i came up with nkp.i will be in touch over the winter, regarding the fertilizer.is that your number? i will call you....hopefully we can do business,,,,,,,,,,,,,..........

Barry has a very nice product! You will like it!

SCREAM'N GREEN!!!!!!!!! :clapping:

[jerry alexander20]

Sorry barry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or is that mr. Barry????????????????all i m looking for is 1-2-pallets of pre-mergent fertilizer.......you said you would be able to help me out... Give me a quote for 1-pallet & a price for @-pallets... My money is really tight now..let me know about payment. And shipping? I m interesting in purchasing. Do not mean to affend you, but that is how i talk.....sorry...just give me your best price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nighthawk117]

[QUOTE=jbturf;3280932]Hello Barry,
can u send me some options and pricing for a trailer of
fert + dimension .15% ?


Barry, could I get the same info , not by the trailer though. Thanks :)

[jerry alexander20]

hi barry, i would like to talk to you over the phone so i can get with you on what i need for the spring...hope to hear from you...302-547-1279

[phasthound]

hi barry, i would like to talk to you over the phone so i can get with you on what i need for the spring...hope to hear from you...302-547-1279

Jerry,

Sorry, I've been swamped.
Please call me at your convenience this Thurs.

Thanks.