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This is Jim Kendrick, publisher of TURF Magazine. I posted a thread yesterday saying I'm bored with the covers we do in TURF and I was asking you folks to think about photos you have or might take of your crews at work, funny stuff, beautiful stuff, whatever.
Eric Elm (thanks, Eric) send me a couple ... and that was it. So should I believe that there is no interest ... or that I just didn't get the message across. If no interest, I'd love to find out why. Maybe TURF isn't accepted as well as I have thought -- even though we have the largest circulation in the industry. I KNOW it's not because you folks are humorless. Lawnsite has been great fun -- along with containing lots of very useful information.
What gives?
65hoss
02-16-2001, 12:32 PM
Some people may just not have responed now but you may get a flood of pics later. I think most everyone here would think it is a great idea. Some of us might get famous.
BCLawncare
02-16-2001, 12:58 PM
JimK this sounds like a great idea, soon as I get some photo`s this spring count me in !
PS. TURFF`S a great mag.
mowerparts
02-16-2001, 12:58 PM
You have to remember that the page updates so fast that you miss alot a messages if you are not log on all the time.
This is the first time that I saw the message and I am the web at least 4 x,s a day.
You just have to post it more than once.
Scraper
02-16-2001, 01:04 PM
Jim...It's a great idea...except I don't have any pictures. I was debating driving my WB into the 9th hole pond to get on the cover. ;) Seriously though, you guys have a great publication which gets read in my house before any of the others. One question though...I live in PA and see that I get the Northeast edition. When I look at advertisements which list dealer locations there are none for PA/NJ/DE. Only for NY and up. Is that due to no advertising for PA?
Keep up the great work...and when I have a picture worthy of the cover of your mag I'll definitely send it to you for a looksee.
Glen
lbmd1
02-16-2001, 01:07 PM
Jim,
Being that a large percentage of us still have snowcover could also be a hindrance to your lack of photos. I for one would love to send you some shots of what you are looking for but most of us probably only have stills of our account base, typical WOW! lawn shot. Not too interesting. Now that you have given us a purpose, I'm sure many would love to submit. The best time to ask for fall pictures from us is in the fall while we're doing cleanups, lawns in the mowing season, etc.. We're not like stock photographers who have an ample supply of a given subject on hand. You'll have to look at our brothers from the south to help you out on this one cuz us northerners have more snow than we know what to do with. Sorry we couldn't be of more help. Maybe this will give us something to shoot for (no pun intended) this coming season. Thanks again for thinking about us.
Mike
Richard Martin
02-16-2001, 01:15 PM
I agree with everyone else. You might have to wait to get some pics.
You guys did a nice job in this issue of Turf too. <b>Finally</b> an article that even the smallest LCO can use. I'm talking about the article on walk-behind maintenance. I would never have given a thought to blade timing.
Thanks!
Rich
lawnboy53
02-16-2001, 01:16 PM
Jim, You have a great mag. I dont have any pics for you but I will get some this spring for your consideration.
P.S. My wife hates the size of your mag, only because I always leave it laying around on the coffee table at home. LOL
Thanks folks. I'll be patient. And yes, that 9th hole sounds like a good one. Mug shots of your crew would work too (don't mean the police shots or thumb prints). I rec'd a photo last year from a LCC bragging that his crew has the best teeth of any crew on the East Coast. Stupid me, I misplaced it when we moved to our new building this summer. I also met a guy in Louisville who PROMISED me a shot of his "super truck" on site with his DCs and crew mixing it up at an industrial park. Not in yet.
Skookum
02-16-2001, 02:44 PM
Jim,
I think most of the guys on here do not have a morgue file that they could just pull out photos for you. I myself having a Visual Design background do not have one either. I should have, so I plan to start one now!
There are a few on here, like Eric, that of course seem to have a dual interest in the Green Industry as well as the techie side of the electronic media. They seem to have a endless supply of pictures and wealth of knowledge for this subject.
I would imagine that, like a few have stated already, you will get plenty of pictures in the future now that you have made it a known request. I can see all the cameras snaping now. Guys will be looking for something to take pictures of for you. I know I will! I can imagine all the wheels out there that are turning now thinking about staging some shots like the WB in the 9th hole pond. You should be able to get some really good pictures in a few months!
Also, I am new to your TURF magazine. I have just recieved my second issue and I think it is a great resource of information. I wish I would have had it sooner, like when I started 8 years ago. Thanks for providing such a nice trade magazine.
BUSHMASTER
02-16-2001, 03:05 PM
Great idea see what i can come up with , hey what about solo operators...
1MajorTom
02-16-2001, 03:45 PM
Jim,
I think that is a great idea to have people send in pictures for the cover of Turf.
I know we have a really cool idea for a picture that we would like to take, but we want to wait until the weather gets nicer and the grass is green. I hope you keep with this idea and continue with it thru the summer. I bet you'll get an excellent response.
Bushmaster: Solo operators ... great. Just have one of your customers take your picture when you're not looking -- it'll give you a perspective on how they "see" you (lol).
And MajorTom: As I said ... I'll be patient. This is an open invitation. I figure once a cover comes out with a lawnsite person or crew on it ... I'll get buried in great ideas. Thanks.
GREG R
02-16-2001, 04:27 PM
the only picture I can send right now, would
be me sitting at my desk doing paper work.
no snow and no green grass but will send pic's
as soon as we get some.I think this will be a great
idea and if all of us don't make the cover maybe
make one whole page with just a bunch of our pictures
on it.
Can we send in snow plowing pics? I have plenty of those. There's turf under the piles at the ends of the parking lots LOL. Some cool shots of shrubs covered in snow (or destroyed by the loaders).
Randy Scott
02-17-2001, 11:02 PM
Definately going to send pictures when I can. I think it's great of you to offer this Jim and would be extremely excited to see myself or others here on the cover. :D
JimLewis
02-18-2001, 04:00 AM
I have a good deal of pictures but I read your post and you said you weren't interested in Jpegs, etc. And that's all we've got. I get all of my photos put on disk when I develop them. But they come as Jpegs. And it just sounds like too much hassle to try to figure out how to get some of the really high end photos that it sounded like you wanted.
MOW ED
02-18-2001, 07:44 AM
I also think its a great idea and btw I look forward to your mag each month but I am in the same boat as a lot of these folks, no pictures yet. I wish I had a camera last year a couple of times. Some things a pic cant do justice to like the guy that was traveling down the highway filing the tip of his gate down, hard to capture an action shot like that on film.
1stclasslawns
02-18-2001, 08:49 AM
I'll send some!! Just dont have any yet.
Its a great idea would you consider some articles also?
I'd like to try my hand at writing. I know from some of my post your going Oh my, whats this hillbilly thinking, but Ive got a good friend that is a writer and he'll proff every thing for me.
Jim
jason2
02-18-2001, 10:41 AM
Somebody posted a pic of a guy on a bicycle pulling a trailer loaded with a mower and gas cans. Thinking maybe it was Eric.
That would make a great cover with a related story about scrubs or something similar.
Eric ELM
02-18-2001, 10:52 AM
http://elms.bizland.com/scrub.jpg
GrassMaster
02-18-2001, 12:26 PM
Hello JimK:
I'm going to really push my luck here & do some guessing? I's hard headed Joker at the best?
Is there any file format that these guys could send you attached to an E-mail that they could do? It would really increase your incoming Photos & "That's a Fact Jack, I mean Jim!"
Now I'm just guessing, BTW I'm new to the Internet, I haven't been on that long & I'm working on how to do this E-mail thang now. LOL, :-) Butt here goes & if I'm wrong don't worry about it, I's uneducate & from JawJa Too!
It's my understanding that most all Pictures on Magazine covers are Scanned a maximum of about 200 dpi at the most & near about all Graphics Designers either use .jpeg, .jpg, .tif or .tiff file format?
If this is TRUE & this is the way Yo Wonderful Magazine Graphic Designers accomplishes this task. Let these Forum Folks send it to you this way, in the file format that you can use. Just tell these guys & I bet you get's flooded with pictures?
I don't even know what a 35mm is, I've never seenz one either & if I had one, I would be shooting food with it or I would be over there at that that airStrike in the back of my Country Cadillac & getting it over with, because Survivor come on Thursday night up north & by the time we get it in Jawja it's Sunday. That's a dedicated Beerze day for us RedNecks. We still watch it with our portable TV outside, the one between the Pump house & the Outdoor bathroom with the Half Moon on the door & another 2 in it! :-)
I would not be sending to you either because it's against the law to mail something like a 35MM in the mail. No tellng the cost on this either? :-) I don't have a Federal Firearms Permit but I have a Rifle rack in my Chevy? A 4 Racker Too! Wouldn't leave home without it!
BTW, how hard does a 35mm kick, or do you put it in a tree or on the ground? If I had one of those old timey cameras that makes those paper pictures that you take that tiny roll of sunfilm to K-Marts I would send ya one, Butt I's High Tek JawJa RedNeck & gots a Digit Camera. No moe K-Marts fo me!
I bet you if you let them send in some kinda file format like I mentioned above you get Mower Pictures than you could shake a Lawn Mower blade at? I promise.
Eric ELM
02-18-2001, 03:33 PM
I also wonder why an original digital picture in high resolution can't be sent, then printed out on a good printer and then scanned bigger to fit the cover, or just put several small ones on. The print quality of a good printer seems as good as having a 35mm developed at a photo place.
Eric
curlawngreen
02-18-2001, 09:50 PM
Jim I have a garden of the month coming up. I would like to send you some fotos. Thanks for the op.
Tim
Hi folks ... and you too GrassMaster.
And I don't know firearems very well ... so I can't quite picture a 35mm -- what canon? Hmmm.
The answer to your questions about photos (you too Eric) is that YES, we can do some graphics tricks and use .tip, .eps, .pdf, etc. files. We do have some neat toys here for that stuff. What I was saying is this: to get the best quality end results ... it is best to start with negatives, slides or photos. E-mail stuff is always a crapshoot. But -- by all means -- try to e-mail me photos. In the very least we can review them and if we need better original mateials ... I will follow up.
Fair enough? Thanks!
One more thing: Eric ... what format IS the "biker" photo in? Digital camera? Seems as if we should have SOME use for that great shot. Please let me know.
Thanks, JimK
Eric ELM
02-19-2001, 09:38 AM
Yes it is digital and it was taken at the lowest resolution. Paul took this picture last summer and he is from the Chicago area. He sent the picture to me to post and it has been a classic.
Eric ... can I download that biker pic? Would Paul let me use it (for something ... maybe lawnsite column in March)?
Thanks, Jim
Sure go ahead and use it:)
lawrence stone
02-20-2001, 03:03 PM
Jim here is my contribution:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1209854&a=9472460&p=31078853&Sequence=0&res=high
turfquip
02-20-2001, 03:13 PM
Where's Beetlejuice?
lawrence stone
02-20-2001, 03:33 PM
Kirby has him.
Lawrence ... did you steal my 18-year-old's truck (here in Northern Vermont they are actually called "rigs.") He has a Chev almost identical ... built the bed himself. Not quite as square as the one in the photo (maybe because he used my chain saw as his precision tool of choice?).
Jim
plow kid
02-20-2001, 04:00 PM
I have a good one, me standing looking at the flat tire on my trailer at taco-bell, my problem is that i don't have a scanner, maybe i will buy one, that pic is funny.
Hey Plow kid,
You don't need a scanner. Please send me the photo, it sounds like the right stuff. Send to: Jim Kendrick, TURF Magazine, 374 Emerson Falls Road, St. Johnsbury, VT 05819.
Thanks!
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