Weather Channel reruns ??

[John Allin]

Bear with me here....

Last night they predict freezing rain here... maybe. I hate the "maybe" part.

Wake up at 2 AM, check out Weather Channel (TV is up on wall in the bedroom so I can just click and watch). I watch for 1/2 hour. See couple of local reports but waiting to see composite radar so I can see if the green blob is coming our way.... local radar indicates no, but that really doesn't give me enough geography to tell if the main event is coming. No composite radar... lots of travel weather reports and color graphics. Emerick is the on camera announcer. I'm trying not to fall back to sleep. Listening HARD. Hanging on every word (eyes closed) to hear composite radar talk so I can see if it's coming.

Back to sleep - set alarm for 45 minutes. Wake up and click on Weather Channel..... watch for 25 minutes... still no composite radar, but locals make it look like its going to JUST miss us to the south. Sure would like to see the composite so I can determine if salt trucks should go out and get ahead of it..... too much travel weather stuff. I thought travel weather was only twice an hour ??

Set alarm for 30 minutes. Wake up and click on Weather Channel.... something "feels" wrong. Deja vue all over again. Emerick has some nuances, phrases, movements that look very familiar. Still no composite. Set alarm for 45 minutes.

Wake up, click on WC. Emerick still announcer. NOW it looks wayyyy to familiar. Same phrases. Same movments. Exactly the same movements and words.

They are reruning the same 28 minutes !! It's a freakin rerun !!! What's up with THAT !!!

I was hoping mad. Had to get up and go to the office to watch the DTN to find out what I needed (it did miss us and we didn't have to salt).

No wonder there was no composite radar images. They have to be up to the minute (so to speak). Someone would have caught on if the composite radar didn't change. The only reason I caught on was because I was purposely waiting for the composite so that I could justify pre-salting and be sure SOMETHING would happen so I could bill for it.

YA CAN'T TRUST ANYBODY ANY MORE !!!

Thanks for listening........

[Edited by John Allin on 02-16-2001 at 01:04 PM]

[Mike Nelson]

Sounds like Mr.Allin is a little cranky with no sleep:o

It does get aggravating when you can't even get the damn weather!To boot know ya got to get up and go to the damn office.
John you could have sent Peggy!
Boy I hope she doesn't read this or she will shoot me:eek:

[lawnboy53]

John, Do you have room to mount another DTN on your bedroom wall? I thought of a new line for John...
John "I plow more snow before 9am than most people do all season" Allin. We have had a great year here in Nebraska with 36" of snow, thats just one storm for John. LOL

[Mike Nelson]

That is great lawnboy53 :D
He truly is the KING of PLOWING.
Maybe he should put that on his signature.

[slplow]

John, the wc sucks between 12am to 5am. I think they started that repeat crap last year and that is when we need the radar the most. Your sig should read John the plow god.

[Mark Oomkes]

John, have you checked into that remote program for DTN? I realize you'd still have to get out of bed, but at least not into work. I checked into it once, but never did any more about it, though. I still like the DTN radar better than WC or our local stations.

[John Allin]

Give me a break......
I got your god.... right here.
By the way... Peggy was already at the office when this went down.

[Chuck Smith]

I found out about the rerun deal 3 years ago. They have been doing it at least that long. I just log onto another website, for more recent data.

http://www.intellicast.com

I go to the US Radar Loop. That way you can see what's coming, and how it is moving / forming/ breaking up, ect.
The weather channel is ok, when you can't get to a puter, and it's between 6 AM and midnight. On a side note, weatherbug is pretty good too. Not so much for the radar, but for the accurate temps in different areas.

http://www.weatherbug.com

~Chuck

[npalomba]

Any of the 24 hour news/weather or whatever channels just run reruns overnight; no money in putting more talent on tv; I get mine off the net so a quite walk into my office and get what I need.

[4 Saisons]

Like chuck i prefer check on the Net, I have at least 5 related website, and by using opera, i open all this in the same time, all windows are tiled and i can watch few radar at the same time and see a lot of info at the same time.

just need a pc beside your bed.

[Mike Nelson]

I totally forgot about using DTN online DTN.com We used it when we had a problem with our dish.
I knew Peggy was already there,she probably couldn't sleep with all that rackett and fussing in the bedroom when you were trying to tune into the wc.

[John Allin]

I was so danged tired, and so irritated that I completely forgot about coming into the office at the house and logging on....

duh....

[iowastorm]

John,

I forwarded your comments to my friends at TWC. They don't use off camera forecasters during those overnight hours, hence the generic, non-updated wx information. Also, most of their radar is 5-7 minutes old anyway, although they say it's real time. What about the radar from your local forecast; that's from your local NWS office?

FYI: Most of you know that the National Weather Services' NIDS contract expired that year, thus, allowing all of us access to their radar (at near real-time). Although it's free, during heavy net traffic, some images can take forever to download. Some here recommend Intellicast or TWC, etc, but it all sucks compared to http://www.weathertap.com
If you don't mind paying $63/year, it's the best radar and satellite on the web and it updates every 3-6 minutes.

[John Allin]

It still burned me up at the time. I was totally unaware that they did that.

Lesson learned.

However, it doesn't happen that much that I want, or feel the need, to see a nationwide composite radar during the night. The local portion is usually good enough.

Ahhh well..... guess it's like the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus... another bubble burst.

[iowastorm]

I know what you mean, John. When we're out in the field storm chasing and Weather Center comes on (top and bottom of the hour) and they lead in with "Severe weathe in the nation's midsection, but first to Boston were you enjoyed a nice sunny day, 75*" (and then they spend 5 minutes on it). This drives me nuts! We've got a tornado watch around us, but they're driven by popluation and viewership.

BTW; the only reason I forwarded your comments to them is that they need to have feedback about their programming. I complain to them all of the time . . . it's good for business; hope you didn't mind.

[OBRYANMAINT]

i have seen them repeat them during the day also

i also use intellicast for my radar its about 30 minutes accurate which is good enough for me....the loop function is very helpful

[iowastorm]

Sorry, I didn't mean to insult anyone's use of a service such as intellicast or TWC. My needs for data are different than that of another person's. In fact, Intellicast does have some pretty good surface maps.

[plowjockey]

ITEM!!!! Bulletin!! Bulletin!! There's a huge storm brewing on Lawnsite.com Snow Plowing Forum...maybe. And now back to JAA in uhhh aww where the heck IS he anyway? Would someone turn off that *&^#$% tape loop and ANSWER ME??? LOL :D

Bruce
Just kidding John

[Edited by plowjockey on 02-16-2001 at 08:53 PM]

[Chuck Smith]

I wasn't insulted, but I do think Intellicast is good enough for me, and I do like the FREE part. I'm not sure how delayed the info is, as it has been very accurate this winter. I don't even bother with TWC online. Weatherbug is a nice one to, as it is local, very local, and up to the minute as far as temps and barometer, highs and lows of the day go. I have found it to be a very useful tool for that info.

~Chuck

[SlimJim Z71]

Wait a minute... did I hear correctly that the God of Snow, Keeper of all Snow, Mr. John "I'm not sharing any of this white stuff with any of YOU" Allin did not have to go out that day!?!?!?! Just giving you a hard time.

From the sounds of things John, you could use the break. Those of us here in the midwest keep getting teaser storms. 1/4-inch all the way up to 1.5".

For the record, what was the first day this season you went out plowing, and also, how many days have you had off??? Just curious.

-Tim

[plowjockey]

Tim
I'll bet the first day was too early and the days off were not enough. He does REAL plowing. What's wrong anyway?? I like plowing 1/4" storms. (yeah right!!)

Bruce
Happless Plowing
:D

[Mark Oomkes]

Storm, I've never figured that one out either. A tornado destroying a town but we'll get back to that in a minute. Makes ya wonder.

[plowking35]

It seems to me that they are beter at getting right to severe weather. I was watching yesterday, and even tho weather was happening else where, they led with the tornados and severe t storms from the south. Maybe they listened for once.
Dino

[Black Ice Guru]

You mean ive been watching reruns all night? OMGGGG!

[npalomba]

Speaking of the Weather Channel; has anyone seen the crawl of advertisments that they have along the bottom of the screen. I have seen some for lawn serivces in the summer; I haven't seen any for Snow/Ice Managment; has anyone ever looked into this? I know you could get it in your specific area just wondering if anyone had any luck with it... Although, I know I'll never get JA as a customer now since he doesn't watch anymore!! 8-)

If no one knows, and if there is interest I'll have my admin call and find out.

[iowastorm]

You're right, Dino. They are getting better with leading into SVR weather. My guess is because there wasn't any other weather news yesterday. Wait until this summer, when the storms move to less populated areas such as Nebraska, Kansas, etc., then we'll see if they give it such high priority. It's all about the ratings, man.

[John Allin]

I'm still here....
I'm not offended that you passed my comments on to them. I would have if I thought of it.

We have now had 4 days off since November 20th. Don't know what to do with all the free time. maybe squeeze in a couple of fall cleanups that didn't get done, if we can move the snow off the lawns.......

BTW - we did end up salting a few accounts that day with the WC fiasco - but not until mid morning for some restaurants that open for lunch.

[Mike Nelson]

Move over Jim Cantore,we have a new weather anchor!!!

I don't know why,but I can picture John Allin in a blue parka doing live interviews from Erie P.A. in the middle of the next storm.:D
Just think of all the extra $ you could make from the wc.
I think I have too much time on my hands!!

[iowastorm]

I can envision the segment producer now . . . .

"Near blizzard conditions in Eerie, PA where over 36" of snow has already fallen. Our own John Allin is in Eerie where he'll bring us a live report. But first to our garden segment with P. Allen Smith where he will show us how to plant your own rootabago farm and refurbish and varnish that old wine rack in the cellar."

Makes you kinda teary eyed doesn't it.

[Mike Nelson]

Oh man I gotta run to the bathroom before I pee my pants:eek:

Storm that was great:D:D

By the time they get to JA he now has 48" on the ground.

[John Allin]

I wonder what you guys do to people you DON'T like......

[SCL]

John,
Just make sure you shut off the rotator, turn off the salter, and put on the emergency brake before you get out. Anyone else seeing a mobil satellite dish on top of a plow truck here? And by the waty its going Storm, they're going to switch off of the tornado thats destroying your neighbors town in April to cut to John for his historic 300th inch of snow for this season:-0.
Scott

[Edited by SCL on 02-17-2001 at 02:51 PM]

[plowking35]

Iowa, what I want to know is, do you have someone as pretty as Helen Hunt riding with you while storm chasing?? I have a bunch of ping pong balls and empty beer cans that I can Fed X to you. that way you can make your own tornado x ray machine.
there was other weather happening yesterday as well, in fact we in the NE were even getting winter type precip, but they went to the SE first for the SVR update.
Dino

[Mike Nelson]

John you wanted to know what we do to people we DON'T like

Well tune into HBO on Sunday nights at 8 or 9 pm.

Waste Management seems to be a great career:eek:

P.S. the real name is Miguel Nelsoni :D

FORGET ABOUT IT!

[Edited by Mike Nelson on 02-17-2001 at 03:24 PM]

[iowastorm]

I've been trying to find a good storm wh$@re to accompany my chase team for a couple of years now. As for the ping pong balls and beer cans, Dino, just discard the balls and send the beer cans (full) my way. No Toto or Dorothy around here. But man, you ought to see all of the weather geeks (dark socks with tennis shoes and shorts types) that chase storms for NOAA and the universities; it's Revenge of the Nerds gone storm chasing! It's maddening!

[Mark Oomkes]

John made a mention of the threads getting wacky over here in the summer, now I can't wait to see what goes on after this one and the mixing Magic with 5 and 10 gallon pails. My wife keeps wondering why I'm laughing all the time.

[John Allin]

I think Mike Nelson has been sniffing that parking lot sealer again....

He seems to be worse than usual this weekend.....

[Rooster]

I don't really think that The Weather Channel can afford to have John there broadcasting in the middle of a storm. He will be too busy plowing snow or at the Operations Center dispatching his trucks.

You have to make the money when THE OPPROTUNITY is there right?

:D

BRING ON THE SNOW!!!!!!!

[plowking35]

Johns machine is so well oiled he can be in the Caribean and not have any worries man. But TWC wont care about Erie, they give all the Lake Effect glory to Buffalo anyway.
Dino

[John Allin]

Dino,
You got that right. It's irritating to us at times.

[plowjockey]

John
Maybe you can get Jim Cantore on top of your V-box and do a live segment form there as you go down the road. Look out Jim that limb is awful low!! We may poke fun at John but he's the one laughing all the way to the bank, and you know that thing about "he who laughs last..."

Bruce

[Mike Nelson]

Dino,
You are right John's machine is well oiled.

Another one is Chris Freddericks,Lynn said he was sailing down in Florida with his new wife :cool:Well we now know who runs their operations Lynn for Chris and Peggy for John!

WARNING!Don't do any driveway sealing it is proven to be bad for your HEALTH :eek:

[SlimJim Z71]

Ya see John, you kind of brought this on yourself.... if you had just sent a little more of that snow back west to the rest of us, this all could've been avoided. Now everyones got so much time on their hands, so we sit here and write long threads poking a little fun at the one guy who's actually out making money.

Don't worry, as soon as it starts snowing again... we'll all go away, for a little while. LOL

-Tim

[iowastorm]

Hey John, it's 8AM CST and TWC is talking about snow in Buffalo. (But first to Atmospheres where we feature a 100 year old lady that hasn't showered in 10 years can change the weather condiontions by merely walking outside). No respect for you guys in Eerie, huh?

[John Allin]

Storm,
Now THAT's funny.

[Mike Nelson]

Just reading the threads to my wife and she suggested that we all move to Erie,PA and work for The King....:D

I don't think Erie could handle all of us.:eek:

[John Allin]

Mike,
You're working for me now..... why move to Erie.
For the rest... give me alittle more time - and you'll all get the opportunity to work for us.

[4 Saisons]

Well,,,, may be i need to cross the border.

[Rooster]

John,

Sign me up, Just send SNOW!!!!!!!!! :D