ZTR riders?

[HUSKERHARLEY]

I live in Nebraska and Encore,eXmark and toro Ztr's seem to be the mowers that the dealers seem to push,Encore looks good to me anyone agree or disagree?

[Greenkeepers]

Do a search on this topic. I bet you'll find that encore is not too well liked. Not to say that they are bad, but personally I don't think that they compare to exmark.

[rdh]

there is a encore dealer here they dont even use them for there lawn care business , they use scag and ex mark.

[Eric ELM]

Welcome to Lawnsite.com :)

I have a search page on my website for past posts here at Lawnsite with 74 subjects to make it easier for new guys to find old posts. It is the middle link below or you can always find it in Help Registering and Participating, which is at the top left of every screen page on Lawnsite. I went to it and clicked on Encore and below is the search I found on this subject. I hope this helps.
Eric
Click on this below.
http://www.lawnsite.com/search.php?query=Encore&forumchoice=-1&booleanand=yes&searchin=subject&searchdate=-1&searchuser=&searchdateline=&exactname=yes&action=dosearch&getdaily=&pagenum=

[65hoss]

I bet you can find several post from me on this subject. Encores make good bush hogs. Ok backup mower, but suck as a daily mower. Anything that can break, will. Most of the machine is put together with cheaper parts. They don't last very long. Last year I had to replace all spindle bearings 2 times. OPC switches constantly breaking, front bushings suck, and blade tip speed is slow. Only good thing I can say, it that it is a hydro so its easy to use. I bought 1 eXmark and fell in love. Its a far superior piece to the encore. Wasn't long until I bought a second eXmark. Lazer HP! I tried to sell mine to some guy that was using encores one day. He said no thanks. He wouldn't buy anymore either. I wouldn't waste my money again. Buy an eXmark and be happy, buy an encore and never have peace.

[HUSKERHARLEY]

Thanks...... I visted Encore and Exmark's factory yesterday they are 1 block from each other in Beatrice Nebraska.What bothers me is the fact that the founder of Exmark sold out and started Encore,you would think encore would be as good or better than Exmark,but after reading some of the stories on this web site I couldn't be more WRONG! AT encore they did tell me that they have different type of spindels,also I saw toro's at both places sitting in there warehouses,Whatsup with that?

[Sammy]

If you go to GM you will find Ford and Dodge there. Its called testing the compititions products.

[Strawbridge Lawn]

I started a thread uest to get a feel for a Lazer HP price. Got only only 1 reply thus far. Since you have purchased them recently, How does this sound: 2000 Lazer Z HP 48 with a 21 kawa with 7 hrs, and an UVAC for $7,100 (tax incl) sound to you?
Thanks in advance

[Premo Services]

Gary
In May I bought a 2000 lazer 52 inch,23 kaw. for 6500.00,and in sept. bought the ultra vac for 1200.00 w/tax. It looks like for a little more you could get a 52 inch, w/23 kaw motor. Mabey check on a larger if you could use it.

[Edited by mow money on 02-22-2001 at 01:31 PM]

[65hoss]

Mow money is right. The price is way to high for that mower. I also paid @$6500 for my 52" 23 kawi. It didn't have any hours on it.

[Strawbridge Lawn]

So for a 2000 Lazer Z HP with a 21 HP Kawa mower and 7 hrs on the machine $5,500 is to high?
The figuires are as follows:
Machine 5,500.0
Ultra vac 1,200.0
Tax 461.0
Total 7161.00.
This is 950.00 under the 52" machine you which is where I thought it should be considering the size and 2hp less.
What should one be paying?

[TLS]

Gary,

That 7 hrs can be 7 hrs from hell! Was it a demo? Demo in my book is short for DEMOlition NOT DEMOnstration. Be careful. Also, I suggest that you take the others advice and go with the 52" 23hp. You will get faster speed, wider cut, and a more powerful engine. Plus it will have 0 hrs.

Good Luck

[Strawbridge Lawn]

Good Point, Thanks for the advice.

[John DiMartino]

We never,ever buy demo,s unless the show zero wear-and I still wouldnt buy one.The price savings is so small the risk big-buy new,you know how it was operated,you can do the first service early and prolong the life of the engine-demo's are a risk.We have gotten demo's at the golf course-and to be honest we pushed them as hard as we could-to fing the limits-thats why you demo them,to see what they can do-I wouldnt want that machine afterwards.