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1MajorTom
02-21-2001, 05:11 PM
Our dealer told us to run only Kohler engine oil in our Kohler Command engines.
He said at first he was running 10W30 in his personal equipment, and his valves were tapping. He found out at a service meeting that Kohler oil does not foam like automotive oil did in his machine. He now uses Kohler oil, and he doesn't have any more problems.
Anyone else heard this before?
Eric ELM
02-21-2001, 05:23 PM
I did not know this, but I can believe it would help if Kohler does have a non foaming oil. I have found that when I have lifter noise, it is because I have the engine at or a fuz above the full mark. If I run it at the full mark to about an 1/8" below the full mark, I have no problems with 10/30 oil. When I do have this problem, I check the oil and the oil will have tiny bubbles in it and it will be a fuz over full.
I started running Shell Rotello T 15/40 in the Kohler after I got my Diesel Chopper and this way I can run it in all 3 big engines. I have used this in the JD this winter and it started with no problems at 5 below zero. Back to the problem, I have had no lifter problems on the 22 Command since. How much is the Kohler Oil? If this is true, I may use it in the Old Chopper. Keep us informed. :)
1MajorTom
02-21-2001, 05:48 PM
Eric,
Going to talk to the dealer tomorrow. Haven't purchased any of the Kohler oil yet, so I'll find out the cost tomorrow.
John DiMartino
02-21-2001, 07:41 PM
My dealer told mr Kohler oil is SAE30,dont know how true it is,but it was thicker than the 10w30 i had in it.
lawrence stone
02-21-2001, 07:49 PM
For the same price a Kohler oil you could buy full syn. oil at most chain auto parts stores.
Full syn. is a much better product.
MOW ED
02-21-2001, 08:09 PM
Buy Mobil 1 full synthetic, its recommended in Kohlers Owners manuals.
LeoS818
02-22-2001, 07:30 PM
I was told by someone somewhere that all motor oils have an antifoam additive in them.
I use Kohler command sae 10w-30 in 25hp Kohler command it cost me 1.99 a qt at RuralKing. Marks Mowing Service PS so far no problems.
captdevo
02-23-2001, 08:14 AM
i use non-detergent castrol 10w30. have for years it does real well. if you are going to use synthetic oil, wait till after break in period is complete on new engines so the rings will seat.
I do recommend the Kohler oil as well. If you look at the back of the oil, check the API service ratings. On the Kohler oil it is rated SJ/CG-4, the S rating is for gasoline engines and the C rating is for diesel. These engines run under heavy load and use a governor like diesel engines and need the heavy duty additives that are in the oil. Around $2 a quart is a correct price. Be careful using heavier oils (such as the 15W-40). Kohler oil pumps do not have a large enough drain system in their pressure relief valve and can create too high of an oil pressure with heavy oils especially in cool temperatures. With too much pressure you could bend push rods or break rocker arms. Command labeled oil is 10W-30. Magnum labeled oil is 30W.
Hope this helps.
mowerparts
02-23-2001, 09:08 AM
I use Amsoil in everything. On the Kohler tapping noise I just add a little Marvel Mystery Oil (spelling?) and the noise goes away. This is a old trick for sticking lifters.
thefarmer4
02-23-2001, 09:42 AM
I've switched to Amsoil has anti-foaming additives and is made for heavy duty use. I've never had any tapping.
Check out http://www.bestoilchange.com for more info on Amsoil
1MajorTom
02-23-2001, 02:23 PM
Yep, checked with our dealer & he charges $1.99 for a quart of the oil like someone here already previously mentioned.
Thanks for all the input.
Jerrys Lawn Service
02-27-2001, 10:01 PM
This stuff really works, we had a lifter noise in our 25hp.
last season, seems that when ever we were mowing heavy grass
for over 45min. we would get a rapping from the lifters. So
we talked to the Kohler rep. he told us to switch to Kohler oil because of the non foming agents and heat reduceing
additives. Boy was he right it solved the problem right away. By the way those price quotes are right on the money per quart.(cheaper by the case!)
Good Luck!
jerryslawnservice@home.com
TylerAssociatesLLC
02-27-2001, 10:48 PM
we use 30w in our 25hp kohler, it is called small engine oil. so i figured that it would be good to use and prolly has the correct additives.
what weight is the kohler oil??
MIDSOUTH
02-27-2001, 11:10 PM
I use havoline 10w-30 in mine, thats what it calls for on the dipstick!!!!!!!!!!
I have a Kohler 12.5 command and run Castrol SAE30 in it. I tried 10w-30 but had some slight noise with it. The 30 straightened it out.
Stoner
02-28-2001, 05:02 PM
I use walmart oil. Its cheap and meets the standards of the American Petroleum Institute. As long as the bottle has the star burst emblem on the front indicating this then I have no problems with spending .87 cents on a quart of oil. Obviously the most important thing is checking your oil and changing it regularly.
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