View Full Version : FREE Chem Lawn Treatment.
1BadHawk
05-24-2005, 11:17 AM
Ok, I come home from work today and theirs an application flag on my front lawn. At first, I though my neighbor (who also owns his own LCO) placed it their as a joke, since he is great guy and can be a prankster some times. As I made my way to the door I noticed a piece of paper shoved in the screen.
Come to find out, its a bill from chem lawn. Apparently the people who we bought this house from last fall had chem lawn as their provider. And now they (chem lawn) have come back and started treating the lawn under the assumption that the previous owners still live here and want their service.
Thanks for the free treatment Chem Lawn.
:cool2:
Itsgottobegreen
05-24-2005, 11:41 AM
Well kiss your lawn good bye. Chemlawn just killed it.
chimmygew
05-24-2005, 01:27 PM
Hope you plan on mowing every other day..... :rolleyes:
1BadHawk
05-24-2005, 02:39 PM
I thought about calling them and telling them I already treated the lawn, and now theyve killed it. Now I want a new lawn installed.
DUSTYCEDAR
05-24-2005, 03:52 PM
gotta love the way they do biz :dizzy:
kc2006
05-24-2005, 04:02 PM
How is it that chem lawn is still around even??? Every person I know hates chemlawn with a passion because of stupid stuff like this. Chem lawn can hug em.
marko
05-24-2005, 05:08 PM
You would be suprised how much business they generate and how many people just pay the bill when they do this.
Gators_Aerator
05-24-2005, 07:54 PM
They did the same thing to me. First you will not have to pay. Second, if it does kill your lawn they will have to pay. Let them know you don't appreciate the way they do business and would like to be compensated for the work you now have to do.
That is why I go organic.
lawnman_scott
05-24-2005, 09:25 PM
gotta love the way they do biz :dizzy:
Maybe the useless customer didnt call and say they moved?
rokinrandy
05-24-2005, 10:14 PM
Maybe the useless customer didnt call and say they moved?
this is really funny,,first off i am not a landscaper i am here because i really have learned alot about landscaping from you guys the past couple of days more than any other site or forum..i think they probably did call tru green..they sprayed my yard today ,,i told them i had changed my mind and i could not afford them due to getting married last week a honeymoon and bla bla bla.they left me a phone message right at they're closing time as a courtisey call to let me know they were coming..i called them right back and they were closed and left a voice mail said no!! do not come..they came up at 10;30 am anyways while i was at work and locked my dog in the screened in patio and she pooped and pissed all over the place.. :realmad: ..i called up there and told them they had a real f**** up way of doing business and people like me do not go for it..she assured me if i was not satiisfied not to worry about it..i then calmed down and figured it was allright it might be a good thing that they did because my lawn needs pro help anyways untill i read that they kill lawns on this forum..this is scarry..
lawnman_scott
05-24-2005, 10:55 PM
this is really funny,,first off i am not a landscaper i am here because i really have learned alot about landscaping from you guys the past couple of days more than any other site or forum..i think they probably did call tru green..they sprayed my yard today ,,i told them i had changed my mind and i could not afford them due to getting married last week a honeymoon and bla bla bla.they left me a phone message right at they're closing time as a courtisey call to let me know they were coming..i called them right back and they were closed and left a voice mail said no!! do not come..they came up at 10;30 am anyways while i was at work and locked my dog in the screened in patio and she pooped and pissed all over the place.. :realmad: ..i called up there and told them they had a real f**** up way of doing business and people like me do not go for it..she assured me if i was not satiisfied not to worry about it..i then calmed down and figured it was allright it might be a good thing that they did because my lawn needs pro help anyways untill i read that they kill lawns on this forum..this is scarry..If it was anyone else, they would pat themselves on the back for saving the dog and call you an idiot for leaving it out. And if they kill all these lawns how do they stay in business. Can you say jealous, or envious?????????
rokinrandy
05-24-2005, 11:42 PM
If it was anyone else, they would pat themselves on the back for saving the dog and call you an idiot for leaving it out. And if they kill all these lawns how do they stay in business. Can you say jealous, or envious?????????
well they were not supposed to come they were told by my wife twice and i mentioned in the post where i told them not to come out twice ,,but you call me an idiot after reading my post ..i have every right to leave my dog out side..they were not welcome in the first place and if they sprayed with my dog out there would have been trouble..what are you a chem lawn groupie or something :angry:
kc2006
05-24-2005, 11:49 PM
I'll stick with the 95% of lawnsite that hates Chem lawn because they're a bunch of idiots. I got a call from them one time and the kid kept going in circles with me trying to get me to let them come here, I said i didn't want it, then he said why not, i said I dont need it, he said why not, because I own my own company I can do it myself, "I thought you didn't want it?" My parents used to have them spray their yard probably a good 8 or more years ago, then one day out of the blue they showed up again and started spraying! ha, I'm jealous, I wish I could be a complete moron and stay in business.
rokinrandy
05-25-2005, 12:10 AM
they damn sure can't follow instructions.. and by the way how much brains does it take to spray a lawn...not much if they are killing lawns... :angry: chem-lawn groupies
lawnman_scott
05-25-2005, 06:41 AM
well they were not supposed to come they were told by my wife twice and i mentioned in the post where i told them not to come out twice ,,but you call me an idiot after reading my post ..i have every right to leave my dog out side..they were not welcome in the first place and if they sprayed with my dog out there would have been trouble..what are you a chem lawn groupie or something :angry:
I didnt call you an idiot. I just am not as jealous as you and others of a big company. If you would have reading comprehention skills you would see that.
rokinrandy
05-25-2005, 06:59 PM
why would i be jealous ,,im a plumber.. i make a great living if chem lawn goes down or takes over the universe.. i guess i feel the same way about roto rooter as yall do about chem lawn..but roto rooter kills peoples bank accounts,not lawns..allright then scott..so sorry about the misunderstanding and mistaking you for a chem lawn rep or something..later..
Pro-Scapes
05-26-2005, 12:02 AM
I am sooo glad we dont see them around here. I have seen them when I lived in other places in the country. They could be spraying iced tea or some crap as tim allen once said lol. Probably just over dilluted miracle grow. Amazing even with thier so called tests everyones lawns need the same thing from the same tank lol. Wonder how much I could profit from 10 bottles of food coloring and 800 gallons of water.
lawnman_scott
05-26-2005, 07:05 AM
I am sooo glad we dont see them around here. I have seen them when I lived in other places in the country. They could be spraying iced tea or some crap as tim allen once said lol. Probably just over dilluted miracle grow. Amazing even with thier so called tests everyones lawns need the same thing from the same tank lol. Wonder how much I could profit from 10 bottles of food coloring and 800 gallons of water.
Food coloring is great!!! I have a customer that has them do the front only. On the weekend i will psot some pics. The front is so much nicer than the back. Sure it may grow more than most, but its green and healthy, and the customer is looking for what? Green and healthy. I just have never been given the awnser, why are they so hated? And i dont think someone not getting a message, or locking the dog away from a freshly sprayed lawn "bad business practices"?
DUSTYCEDAR
05-26-2005, 07:10 PM
chem lawn is hated cause they r cheep and keep prices low
they also make the grass grow so dam fast u cant mow it in the spring
then they kill it off when it gets hot so then u have nothing to mow
just my opin
;)
Shawns Lawns
05-26-2005, 07:43 PM
I am sure chem lawn has been through :waving: :waving: this before so it would not suprise me if they water down the chem's so much that its no real loss for them and no real gain for you. But for the people that do pay they are probably paying your share too.
rokinrandy
05-26-2005, 08:54 PM
Food coloring is great!!! I have a customer that has them do the front only. On the weekend i will psot some pics. The front is so much nicer than the back. Sure it may grow more than most, but its green and healthy, and the customer is looking for what? Green and healthy. I just have never been given the awnser, why are they so hated? And i dont think someone not getting a message, or locking the dog away from a freshly sprayed lawn "bad business practices"?i am really starting to think you work for these guys again..i mentioned i left them a message,yes!
!..but i mentioned that we have called them a total of 4 times allready and if tru green can't get the message when i speak ear to ear face to face they have to have more than a comprehension problem... they come over and leave a bill after i have confirmed with them verbally that i just had a big wedding and honeymoon ,i will do the lawn myself because i need the money..and if i don't pay on time they will expect there money anyways,even after i told them not to come..that might be how they make money pressuring people to buy there product like it or not and then holding your credit over your head and may sound like good business practice to some ,but not me being the honest kind caring indvidual i am :angel: ..if you tell me not to work on something i will do it my self..i respect that,not act like the car salesman of plumbing..screw these a@#holes
slow release
05-26-2005, 09:26 PM
Rockin Randy,
Good luck to you. If you take the passive approach, they will continue to show up, do apps, and leave bills. You need to tell them you dont want any more services, and if they come onto your property again unauthorized you will report them to the attorney general, better business bureau, and file charges of chemical tresspassing. Also, ask to be taken out of their database (unlikely they will actually do this)as you will be bombarded with telemarketing phone calls for at least the next 5-10 years!!! :angry:
My neighbor aside of me had chemlawn come out this year to treat the lawn. It grows like mad. Looked like a bunch of thugs doing the work. My wife said she spotted the chemlawn truck doing 3 other houses on the street now as well. I been using Scotts on my lawn and the funny thing is it is a darker green and I truely think my lawn is just plain nicer. Now that I have a lawn striper on my mower I am sure to turn heads.
If they ever come out and spray my lawn to try to trick me into buisness I am gonna triple the dose of scotts, water it in and watch the grass shrivel away and then make them buy me a new lawn. Eat sh!t chemlawn!!!
Runner
05-26-2005, 11:12 PM
Yesterday, as I was finishing up in a suburban neighborhood, there were 3 scamlawn guys walking down the road, beating on doors, selling. I asked if they were techs, doing it for some more commission,...they said no, they were just doing it for the sales.
For something funny, tomorrow or so, I am going to post some pics of a lawn they do. Around here, some of them are now using Permagreens. This lawn next door to one I do is so striped, it looks like a Zebra! You can see the rows, and all the places where the guy turned around. Real nice.
Now, to answer someone's question about what is wrong with tru-brown, the real answer lays in their work. What they put down is junk...plain and simple. It is nothing but Urea. It makes the lawn green, and it gives it a bunch of top growth. Well, to Joe Homeowner, that is great - because he doesn't know any better. He looks at his lawn and says. "Hey! This stuff must really be working, because the grass is growing to beat the band!"
However, in all actuality, he has no idea just how bad it is for the turf. He has no idea that except for the weeds, his lawn would be better off with NOTHING on it, than to have all that nitrogen dumped on it. This is not an opinion, this is scientific fact. Yes, turf DOES have it's nitrogen requirements, however, at the rates it is put on, and with nothing else to supplement it for the health of the plant, it is adverse to the long term health of the plant. This is why every tru-green lawn - and I mean EVERY tru-green lawn gets thinner and thinner as seasons pass by. It gets to the point where it is barely self supportive.
Now, if you want to know exactly what happens to the plant when it is under nitrogen stress, just let me know, and I'd be happy to explain this to you. I will give you the biological effects, and support it with exactly what WE see on the outside (in layman's terms). It has been said before, and I will say it again. chemlawn-trugreen is NOT a lawn care company...they are a MARKETING company. Where does this come from? I had a sitdown with TWO of their (now ex-) managers. This is what THEY are told at their conferences. You want some interesting reading? Do a google search on "trugreen complaints"...or something similar. There are forums and sites set up just FOR these things. You will not only read about how they have shysted customers, but you will read how they've done employees, as well. I've dealt with "managers" from there, and these guys didn't know their rearend from a hole in the ground.
rokinrandy
05-27-2005, 04:37 PM
all the lower leaves on all my bushes just turned brown ...on one of the extra large bushes it looks like a round patern as if something could have been sprayed on it..there is no idication of fungus..i wonder what could have caused this :dizzy: ..the weeds in the lawn are dying which is good..the spots where grass actually grows is turning a tad bit greener as well..but for 80 bucks ,the same price as the chem lawn bill i just bought all the stuff i need (minus the spreader) to get the yard in better shape for more than just once a month..
rokinrandy
05-27-2005, 04:39 PM
Rockin Randy,
Good luck to you. If you take the passive approach, they will continue to show up, do apps, and leave bills. You need to tell them you dont want any more services, and if they come onto your property again unauthorized you will report them to the attorney general, better business bureau, and file charges of chemical tresspassing. Also, ask to be taken out of their database (unlikely they will actually do this)as you will be bombarded with telemarketing phone calls for at least the next 5-10 years!!! :angry:
me passive..he he he..i wonder how they would like the drunk hillbilly on the porch with a shotgun :waving: yall come back now ya hear
redoak77
05-27-2005, 10:53 PM
samething happened to us last spring. We had them the previous year and we def. were not going to have them back. We never contacted them and they never contacted us. But low and behold they showed up one day while i was out and they left a nice invoice with the new increased price. Could you imagine if we did this with our customers? It would make things alot easier in spring, just show up and start cutting. wow lol Needless to say, my account with them is about a year past due
rokinrandy
05-28-2005, 12:35 AM
hey, i tell you what if this is good business practice this is what i should do.when my city council get's the o.k. to annex for fayetteville nc i am just going to start pulling all my stuff into peoples yards and rerouting they're septic into the new citie sewers and when im done i will just leave a bill for around 1500 dollars ..and since curb appeal lives in town he can patch up and re sod the ditch.. the ditches usually average 4' foot wide and 60' long and he can leave his bill..and maybe when we are done, they will be ready for chem lawn..that is what business is all about payup ... ;)
topsites
05-28-2005, 12:40 AM
You would be suprised how much business they generate and how many people just pay the bill when they do this.
Yeah they're a large corporation gone crazy, like McDonald's or whatever it's all franchises with hourly employees and all the rest of the corp. bs.
Runner
05-30-2005, 04:34 AM
samething happened to us last spring. We had them the previous year and we def. were not going to have them back. We never contacted them and they never contacted us. But low and behold they showed up one day while i was out and they left a nice invoice with the new increased price. Could you imagine if we did this with our customers? It would make things alot easier in spring, just show up and start cutting.
Actually, that is how they, and many do their service agreements. It is an ongoing agreement, unless advised differently by the customer. No contact just keeps it going. We do our fert. accounts the same way. It is written on the original service agreement. There would be just no way of contacting thousands of people for some of these larger (even private) companies just to confirm.
OrganicBob
10-05-2005, 04:55 PM
Yeah they're a large corporation gone crazy, like McDonald's or whatever it's all franchises with hourly employees and all the rest of the corp. bs.
I would have posted that too if I were an idiot!!!
Seriously, I may agree with you, but you really shouldn't post about things you know nothing about. I understand ChemLawn's approach. They have more customers than you or I would ever want to be responsible for. And really, are you more likely to hear the complaints of dissatisfied customers or the praises of the satisfied ones. ChemLawn will never be able to provide the level of care that some smaller firms are capable of, simply because of their scale. Given their size, you have to give them credit. I mean they must be doing something right. Somebody has to be happy with them. I mean, all a McDonald's manager really has to do is sell one 5 million dollar hamburger :p
topsites
10-05-2005, 07:23 PM
If it was anyone else, they would pat themselves on the back for saving the dog and call you an idiot for leaving it out. And if they kill all these lawns how do they stay in business. Can you say jealous, or envious?????????
I don't quite understand this thread myself. Chemlawn usually does a fine job on most of my customers who hire them, and it is one of the few companies from whose employees I can count on a courteous, professional greeting - They don't come up to me asking stupid questions, they don't come around telling me how they would do my job if they were me, I never hear a smart comment from any of them and would recommend this company to anyone who wants No-nonsense green lawn (at a price). Compared to most companies out there, I'll recommend Chemlawn long before I recommend another Lco, that's for sure (for one, they won't steal my customer).
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Granted, I do fertilizer treatments myself and there is this bit of competition factor. However, Chemlawn does treatments full-time where MY full-time occupation is grass-cutting, thus I always feel it is right to give the job to the person with the most experience, and only the person who does something exclusively (and nothing else on the side) can claim to be an expert at what they do.
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No doubt there comes a time someone mistakenly applies the wrong chem or maybe too much or whatever and the lawn turns brown... Now I doubt there's a single Lco on here who can claim they've never messed up, never made a mistake, I know I've turned a few lawns brown myself, it happens to all of us sooner or later. By the way, do YOU replace / fix the customer's lawn when it turns brown? I don't, I can't afford it... Chemlawn, however, can and will... So perhaps it's time some folk here stopped calling Chemlawn to complain just so they can get a free treatment, for that is theft (not that it surprises me anymore).
DUSTYCEDAR
10-05-2005, 08:25 PM
(for one, they won't steal my customer).
maby not in your area but they do in my neck of the woods
i saw them out aerating / seeding lawns this week and all i can say is i hope the customer didnt pay much because they didnt get much in return
SodKing
10-05-2005, 09:00 PM
Recent quote form our local Chem-lawn (to one of their ex customers) "...No the fact that it was raining won't hurt your application of weed control..."
and one that one of their applicators said to me..."I think crabgrass killed that lawn" When I told him it was in fact grubs he replied "whats a grub?"
GatorLawnCare
10-05-2005, 09:01 PM
before i started my company i work for dead-lawn. if we did 1000 lawns a week 100 would not pay. and we did water down the fert in the tank by 80%. if a customer calls and complaints we just bug them even more by the phone and mail. And if they pissed the boss off we treat them with the killing stuff.
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