Round Up

[rookie03]

How many people use Round-Up to save time on your properties? There are a few places that I could use it to spray along fences, curbs, ditches and it would save me a lot of time. Who uses Round-Up and do you go out on your own to do it? Or do you ask your customers if they care if you spray it?

[chefdrp]

i would check if its ok. Especialy if you are not certified.

[Turf Technologies]

I may use it along fence lines, but just a thin spray line. I wouldnt spray ditches or crubs. Why would you want to kill the grass, it would be all dirt?

[tacoma200]

I use it on almost all properties, including a small grave yard. But my lawns are just basic mowing jobs and the people are not overly particlular. If I mowed in more affluent neighborhoods it may be a different story. I always make sure to do it the way the customer wants.

[Fantasy Lawns]

It's easier to charge "extra" fore it .... than they will tell you if they want it

[BryantLandscape]

I use it everyday, in my opinion makes the property look clean, just get licensed those fines can be hefty..in florida its just a day class and a simple 50 question test

[oldturf]

Remember that you must be licensed to spray herbicides.

[LwnmwrMan22]

Use a growth regulator instead.

It won't kill the grass, leaving bare ground available for weed seeds.

[teeca]

propose a bid that can show that trimming cost 'x' number of dollars per visit, aposed to a treatment plan (maintence of fence lines/etc.) treating the fence lines with a mixture of round-up & a pre-em (pendulm 3.3 EC/gallary) that will kill the weeds and grass/grass weeds and prevent them from returning. propose this at a service every 4-6 weeks.. think of how much this saves on labor/gas/equipment/maintence.. include this in your service and make it a point when you sell the bid to the customer!!!

[ArizPestWeed]

Round Up is a PGR, plant growth regulator .
I think being licensed is over rated .
Just kidding

[MOW ED]

Round Up is a PGR, plant growth regulator .


Why yes it is, but it should be called a plant growth eliminator. I love the homeowners who use it because its a "weed killer".

Buy some Embark (PBI Gordon) add some Ferromec and spray away. Its cheap and effective. Reduces trimming for 4 to 6 weeks. I wouldn't use it in high profile areas as it will tend to discolor the lawn. The ferromec helps keep somewhat of a smoky green to it. I go 4oz to 1 gal and that covers about 1k sqft of trimming. You can get more expensive stuff like Primo Maxx but oh boy 400 bucks a gallon is too steep for me to use on trimming.

[GreenUtah]

spraying along ditch banks? I don't know about Oklahoma, but every state we've sprayed in the west is very picky about spraying near waterways. R-up is a vital tool for commercial properties, especially where there are miles of chain link to deal with. Here's a fun tip for those not sure their property managers will go for the dead, brown look where they app edges. Try some turf paint with your application. It's cheap, won't affect the kill and leaves the dead grass looking green until the grass fully breaks down.

[SodKing]

spraying along ditch banks? I don't know about Oklahoma, but every state we've sprayed in the west is very picky about spraying near waterways. R-up is a vital tool for commercial properties, especially where there are miles of chain link to deal with. Here's a fun tip for those not sure their property managers will go for the dead, brown look where they app edges. Try some turf paint with your application. It's cheap, won't affect the kill and leaves the dead grass looking green until the grass fully breaks down.

This has to be one of the best ideas I have heard of in a long time...

[chimmygew]

how much does the Embark cost??

[LwnmwrMan22]

I too have tried the paint technique.


My biggest problem with using roundup, rather than Embark, or Primo Maxx is it's a total kill.

Eventually you're just opening up the turf to areas of bare dirt which then weeds will germinate.

Now instead of a mile of fenceline to trim, you've got to walk it and knock off the weeds.

I suppose you could just go and spray it every other week or every 3rd week, but the more and more you're spraying, the more chance there is of spraying round up a little wide, or having drift.

If you use a product made specifically for growth regulation, then you keep the grass there, along with keeping weed suppresion.

I suppose if you were doing weed control apps on the property as well, then this would not be an issue.

My experience with the schools that I maintain, is that TG/CL does not do a good enough job with the water they try to use as a weed control app, therefore the weeds will be back and I'll be walking a mile of fenceline trimming off weeds.

[GreenUtah]

LwnmwrMan,
I agree with r-up on it's own leaving the bare soil open to germination of weeds, defeating the purpose of spraying down the fenceline in the first place. However, adding in a pre-emergent control will keep your fence line clean up to 6 months in most conditions, certainly paying for itself in labor time. The biggest factor in approaching it this way is cost and time. glypho/prem/paint is still cheaper and longer lasting than a pgr every 4-6 weeks that still discolors turf. It's just a technique for certain situations, not the end all, be all =)

[LwnmwrMan22]

GreenUtah -

What product for pre-m do you use to mix in??

This is one step that I haven't tried yet.

[GreenUtah]

the majority of glyph products' labels will show you tank compatibility with a wide variety of pendimethelin based products. Look for your most cost effective solution for products available to you locally. For small tank mixes, try to stay with liquid pre-em products, it will get into and stay in suspension easier than bagged powders. backpacks or small tank electric sprayers do a great job on fence lines at the 1 gallon per 1000 rates.