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Glenn J
06-12-2005, 10:43 PM
While mowing this evening, one of my belts felt the need to self destruct into about 253 little bits of rubber and cord. :angry: At least I got the front yeard done. Last week, it was the front caster letting go....

Anyway, I've noticed there's a bit of play in the spindle bearings when I pull the blades off to sharpen them. Now that there's no belt tention on this one spindle, there's really a good amount of play. I've also noticed that the blade blolts get really hot when mowing. I've greased the fittings on the spindles more than enough (for homeowner use) so I'm thinking something is going on in there.

Should I attempt to rebuild the current spindles? Or just order the ones from J-Thomas @ $50 each? Link: (See #6) http://www.j-thomas.com/Catalog/033.htm

While $50 is a bit pricey (I figured I might as well swap out all three while I'm in there) it may save time and money in the long run.

:help:

fixer67
06-13-2005, 12:45 AM
"While $50 is a bit pricey (I figured I might as well swap out all three while I'm in there) it may save time and money in the long run. "

That is the key right there. By the time you take it apart IF you can get it apart and then just to find the Spindle shaft and/or bearings and/or housing are gone replacing the whole thing does not seem all the pricey. If there is no movement (play) in the other assemblies I see no reason to replace them at this time unless you just want to get it out of the way

easycareacres
06-13-2005, 02:28 AM
ha remove all three try $349.00 each here. You need odd spare so never cuaght out, dam 50 bucks is jack shitt. We charge same price as you buggers but ya mowers down times nothing come on buy spares ya tight arses. :cool2:

Glenn J
06-13-2005, 07:41 AM
" By the time you take it apart IF you can get it apart and then just to find the Spindle shaft and/or bearings and/or housing are gone replacing the whole thing does not seem all the pricey. If there is no movement (play) in the other assemblies I see no reason to replace them at this time unless you just want to get it out of the way

That's what worried me. I have no idea how old these are and I can only imagine how "fun" getting them apart would be. Metal does odd things when covered with moldy, damp grass. I'd be doing this a lot: :realmad:

How are the pulleys held on to the spindle? It looks like a a key and a really really small allen head screw?

Glenn J
06-14-2005, 08:19 AM
I ordered three spindles last night along with a few extra belts. Since I ordered 3, the price of each went down to $47 each. I'll post an update when they arive later this week. After work, I'll soak down the bolts that hold the spindles to the deck with PB blaster. I've learned that old rusty bolts are easier to deal with if you soak them a few days before attempting a fix. :dizzy:

Glenn J
06-18-2005, 10:18 AM
I took on this job yesterday. When standing behind the mower, the pulley to the left was easy to remove. I removed the two allen bolts and the pulley popped right off. That's where the fun ended. The middle and right pulleys were not cooperating. I could not get one of the allen bolts out of the center pulley. On the right pulley, even with all the bolts removed, it wasn't budging. I felt like such a redneck when I pulled out the 4lb sledge..... It worked though. Since I was replacing the spindles, I used the sledge to drive the spindle out of the pulleys. The right one wasn't so bad, the center one was somewhat of a pain. Probably because of that stuck small allen bolt. Another call to J-Thomas to order new pulleys and idler pulleys and I should be good to go by mid next week. I'm going to paint that area (where the belts live) since I have just about everything removed. Once the paint is dry, I'll install the new spindles and wait for the pulleys.

Likestomow
06-24-2005, 08:44 PM
While I was in the Air Force motor pool, their moto was:

Beat it to fit and paint it to match!

I'm glad to hear that we weren't the only ones with that moto!

Smalltimer1
06-24-2005, 09:11 PM
It took my breath the other week when a single spindle/bearing assembly for a 30" Murray rear engine rider cost $120.

Glad it wasn't my mower, I charged the owner $80 to put it in. payup

Restrorob
06-24-2005, 09:26 PM
It took my breath the other week when a single spindle/bearing assembly for a 30" Murray rear engine rider cost $120.

Glad it wasn't my mower, I charged the owner $80 to put it in. payup


You mean the average labor rate is 80.00 a hour in Raleigh ?
I'm living in the wrong state !

Smalltimer1
06-24-2005, 11:35 PM
You mean the average labor rate is 80.00 a hour in Raleigh ?
I'm living in the wrong state !

Included travel time to pick up parts 30 miles round trip.

Local shops usually run about $58/hr. on labor. I do $18/hr. because I do not have a formal shop/high overhead/employees/etc., but travel time/gas has to be accounted for when I have to track parts down and a pickup/delivery charge, thus the reason for $80, which includes my time. I've become very good friends with the MTD and Murray parts guys recently. :D

Restrorob
06-25-2005, 04:38 PM
Included travel time to pick up parts 30 miles round trip.

Local shops usually run about $58/hr. on labor. I do $18/hr. because I do not have a formal shop/high overhead/employees/etc., but travel time/gas has to be accounted for when I have to track parts down and a pickup/delivery charge, thus the reason for $80, which includes my time. I've become very good friends with the MTD and Murray parts guys recently. :D


I see what you mean now ! At first glance it looked a little steep for that kind of repair. Guess i'm too use to walking over to the parts dept. and pulling my parts. The shop I work at gets 50.00 hr. so I charge 40.00 hr. on home jobs.
Shame you aren't close by,I'd bring my jobs to you and sit in the AC and collect. lol

Smalltimer1
06-26-2005, 12:18 AM
I see what you mean now ! At first glance it looked a little steep for that kind of repair. Guess i'm too use to walking over to the parts dept. and pulling my parts. The shop I work at gets 50.00 hr. so I charge 40.00 hr. on home jobs.
Shame you aren't close by,I'd bring my jobs to you and sit in the AC and collect. lol

I wish I could do $40/hr. here but my hometown isn't ready for that kind of pricing yet. If I lived in Raleigh all the time I could probably get away with it. I tried $35/hr. for a while here and it near-bout killed the repair biz. I've found the best way to make money on repairing low end mowers is to use parts off my MTD/Murray/Crapsman junkers out back and mark up those parts, such as $30 for a used (but in good working order) carburetor. :cool2:

Another good area to make money in is used starters, especially for Briggs. As you very well know, they run about $120-$140 new, so I can easily get $50-$75 for a used starter, possibly $80 or more if I put new brushes in.

Restrorob
06-26-2005, 06:49 AM
I wish I could do $40/hr. here but my hometown isn't ready for that kind of pricing yet. If I lived in Raleigh all the time I could probably get away with it. I tried $35/hr. for a while here and it near-bout killed the repair biz. I've found the best way to make money on repairing low end mowers is to use parts off my MTD/Murray/Crapsman junkers out back and mark up those parts, such as $30 for a used (but in good working order) carburetor. :cool2:

Another good area to make money in is used starters, especially for Briggs. As you very well know, they run about $120-$140 new, so I can easily get $50-$75 for a used starter, possibly $80 or more if I put new brushes in.

I know what you mean,I would have been stuck quite a few times had it not been for my junker yard.