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MowingisMaddness
07-04-2005, 09:49 AM
On our current job, the customer says I have improper equipment. Reason being we use a TS-400 to cut 4" caps and pavers. He claims I should have a table saw setup for this type of work.

What table saw setups are some of you using? I would need to cut 8" block and pavers. If I am going to shell out the money for it, I would like to minimize the concrete dust too.

I get a Russo catalog and here is some of the stuff they have available:

EDCO Gas Brick Saw
HSS-14" 6.5 Honda w/ diamond blade(ad says: Dust free cutting?)
$1899.99 w/ adjustable scissor cart add $449.99

Not for sure which company this is but here we go

GMS-10" 4 Honda weighs 116lbs, ideal for paver and landscape installers
$1499.99 w/ cart add $175

GMS-20" the BIG Boy, 11 Honda, foot pedal
$2999.99

GMS-14" Belt drive, water pump 5.5 Honda $1899.99
w/ 9 Honda $2099.99 stand $180

Americutter 20" direct drive, 13 Honda electric start $2999.99
Americutter 14" 5.5 Honda $1600

Target 14" 5" cut depth 5.5 Honda $2000
Target 20" 13 Honda 8" cut depth $3800

MK Electric 10" $950

Feedback Please............aj

mbella
07-04-2005, 11:14 AM
The bottom line is, what do your cuts look like? Show us some pics.

MowingisMaddness
07-04-2005, 12:38 PM
Here are a few pictures...but what are you using mbella...i would like to upgrade for safety as well, my guys like thier fingers and lungs...

MowingisMaddness
07-04-2005, 12:47 PM
the pavers were installed without a solder row and only 3' at customers request(I would have installed them 4' w/ solder row, couldn't convince them)

Drafto
07-04-2005, 01:10 PM
Do you cut in place or bring the pavers to the saw? We use a 12" TS 400 for cutting everything period. If you cut the pavers in place I don't feel there is any kind of safety issue, use the wet attachment if you have to on that saw. We used to bring the pavers to the saw and cut them individually but after taking the ICPI course and reading here, I find it safer and faster to cut the pavers in place. Your customer should not be dictating the type of equipment you use, each of the saws you listed above have their places, but the TS 400 is so versatile....... Use your money towards a dust collection system for the 400, that saw can do it all.

Dan

The Good Earth
07-04-2005, 02:17 PM
GMS series are Edco. Not really any difference in what saw you are looking to purchase. I like the Edco but that is because they have a storefront a couple of miles from me. Make sure you get what you want because you want it or need it. Don't let the customer dictate to you what you should be using. I had a guy do that to me once. I asked him if he knew so much why wasn't he doing the job. That pretty much ended all of our conversation for the rest of the job. If he wanted something after that he sent his wife out to talk to us. Cashed the check and didn't look back.

mbella
07-04-2005, 02:39 PM
We use the TS-400 for cutting in place and two 14" MK table saws (one wet, one dry) for other cutting.

I agree with not letting the customer dictate what tools you use, but if your cuts aren't clean, he may have a point. If he was happy with your cuts, he probably wouldn't say a word.