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Lawnboy112
07-13-2005, 10:14 AM
Posted before, but I think in the wrong place.

My parents are having a patio done at our house in NJ. Theres a 5' x 30' walkway to the front of the house and a 23' x 30' Patio in the front. We have an existing patio there now. We have 1 estimate already, and we think is a little high. The patio and walkway are to be done with paver's. They are charging 1400$ to take out the old patio and walkway, and 6800$ to do the patio and walkway. I need to know if the price is high low or what. Any input is appreciated. Also the total for the job was 8200$.

Thanks

o-so-n-so
07-13-2005, 10:47 AM
Sounds right for a legit company that stands behind their work 100%.

Lawnboy112
07-13-2005, 10:57 AM
The company that is doing it is the biggest in our town. We see them doing other jobs, and they all seem to turn out great. The only problem is the price. They mow our neighbors lawn, and she had them put a patio in, and do her front steps. We aren't having our steps done and, she had a patio nearly twice the size done , and the only charged he she says a little over 12,000$ She even had them do the landsacape, which we are not. I think that they are trying to cheat us out of more than its worth. We are looking into to doing it ourselves if its going to cost that much. Any input on that?

Thanks

UNISCAPER
07-13-2005, 11:57 AM
Based off of our square foot average (I use this to W.A.G. in numbers prior to a formal bid) they are working for less than we could do the job for. Typically, for demo, excavation, spoil haul out, base, sand screed, pavers and a wet set boarder (we wet set in concrete, plastic eding is a no no here even though I prefer it) our price woulod be $11,600.00. But then, I'm betting the company you are using does not have to pay near the work comp rates we do either.

mbella
07-13-2005, 02:19 PM
Lawnboy, you need to get other apple to apple estimates from contractors in your area. Using the W.A.G. method, I would be much higher. However, I am in a different area and using my numbers. Don't go off of what the neighbors paid. Get other estimates from reputable companies.

Gman2310
07-13-2005, 05:40 PM
our price for patios is about $10/sqft depending on access and all the other things that go along with it. So its really not that expensive. Not everyone can work for free.

Henry
07-13-2005, 08:18 PM
If that job has easy access and you go with a non-tumbled paver we would do it for around $12,500. Where in NJ are you lawnboy? We're usually a bit higher than most around here but that price is ridiculous.

If I could get 28k for a job like that my fatboy would have alot more miles on it.

mbella
07-13-2005, 08:58 PM
If that job has easy access and you go with a non-tumbled paver we would do it for around $12,500. Where in NJ are you lawnboy? We're usually a bit higher than most around here but that price is ridiculous.

If I could get 28k for a job like that my fatboy would have alot more miles on it.

Where does it say $28,000. That guy quoted a price of $8200.00 for everything.

hollywood
07-13-2005, 11:11 PM
Our price would be approx $10,500 but that is what works for us. I agree with the others, get other estimates to make an informed decision. Although it may be tempting to install it yourself, there are benefits to hiring a contractor that performs this service daily. Mainly, the details of the finished product show a quality install.

UNISCAPER and mbella- please excuse my ignorance, but what is the WAG method?

UNISCAPER
07-14-2005, 01:00 AM
W.A.G. method of estimating.

Wild Ass Guess, WAG

Henry
07-14-2005, 08:02 AM
Where does it say $28,000. That guy quoted a price of $8200.00 for everything.

This question was posted under a different topic and when I saw it here again I copied and pasted my reply.

mbella
07-14-2005, 08:03 AM
Hollywood, for the bigger jobs it's S.W.A.G.

Silly Wild Ass Guess

cgland
07-14-2005, 05:01 PM
For people on Lawnsite it is SWAGFPWCFIOOTO!

Silly Wild Ass Guess For People Who Can't Figure It Out On Their Own!

Chris

mbella
07-14-2005, 07:04 PM
This question was posted under a different topic and when I saw it here again I copied and pasted my reply.

So, what's the price? $8200.00 or $28,000.00.

hollywood
07-14-2005, 07:13 PM
Thanks for clearing that up for me everyone. :)

Henry
07-14-2005, 09:49 PM
So, what's the price? $8200.00 or $28,000.00.

Here ya go. Check it out.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?p=1078814#post1078814 (http://)

mikedesignguy
07-16-2005, 11:41 AM
Hey Bill. It's Mike from Paverart.

Lawnboy - In central to southern Jersey, $9.76 per square is in the price range we see. The normal range is $9.00 - $14.00 depending on conditions. Check out the competition and check out their references. Good Luck.

UNISCAPER
07-16-2005, 11:53 AM
Hi Mike! How are things going?

mikedesignguy
07-16-2005, 12:39 PM
Bill,

Things are going well, thanks. Check out the LSU Tiger on our web site.

mbella
07-16-2005, 11:08 PM
Hey Bill. It's Mike from Paverart.

Lawnboy - In central to southern Jersey, $9.76 per square is in the price range we see. The normal range is $9.00 - $14.00 depending on conditions. Check out the competition and check out their references. Good Luck.

I figured you worked for Paverart. You never did get back to me to explain how I could have saved money using your product. Are you guys a sponsor of this site?

If you really want to promote Paverart, quantify things for me. How much would I have saved on my border, using your product?

RedWingsDet
07-18-2005, 04:47 PM
whats paveart?

landscapingpoolguy
07-21-2005, 09:48 PM
Lawnboy where in NJ are you located? We work in essex, passaic,bergen, morris and sussex county and can supply an estimate within 48 hours.

jayycrew
08-08-2005, 12:24 AM
This is my first estimate for laying pavers. The total squar footage is about 500 sq' I am not sure how many pavers I will need and how to price per paver. I am not sure how long it will take me. I think I am going to be using the brick shaped pavers. One other thing! There is a 6" slop on one side where the stone is going out to. I am not sure on how or what to use to build that up so it will be level. PLEASE can someone help!!!!!!!!

jayycrew
08-08-2005, 12:29 AM
Does anyone no what to charge per foot for edging stone,slate and natural stone with mortar?

landscapingpoolguy
08-08-2005, 08:53 AM
Does anyone no what to charge per foot for edging stone,slate and natural stone with mortar?
I get $25 a linear foot

The patio sounds like it needs a course of wall block around the outside edge, semi raised patio. If you have never done one, dont do it without an expereience pro or it will come out wrong. Sub it out first and watch them. The job sound slike it should be a bout $5500 depends on how much wall you need. I get $20 a square for raised patios and $10 - 12 for standard pavers 12 - 14 a sq for tumbled pavers. Seriously tho your profit margin will be low if you attempt it without knowing what you are doing.


Chuck

Xcape Outdoors
08-11-2005, 06:59 PM
That price seems too low for new construction... but if the location is accessable, you are using basic pavers, and the base needs only minor rework I could see it in that range. For new construction I would expect you to be closer to the $10-$11+ / S.F. range on flat work. Anyway I don't think that you are being taken with those #'s for a reputiable company.