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Groundcover Solutions
03-08-2001, 10:49 AM
Before you all tell me to do a serch i allready did and did not realy finde the information that i needed. I was wondering what you guys charge per 15,000 sq ft. I am trying to figure some prices out. For the MI people what would you charge for and averadge lawn and about how many sq ft are in an averidege lawn. Any help would be great thanks in advance!!!!

joshua
03-08-2001, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Hometown Landscaping
Before you all tell me to do a serch i allready did and did not realy finde the information that i needed. I was wondering what you guys charge per 15,000 sq ft. I am trying to figure some prices out. For the MI people what would you charge for and averadge lawn and about how many sq ft are in an averidege lawn. Any help would be great thanks in advance!!!!


how much money do you want to make? thats what you have to ask yourself and when you come up with something figure in the cost of fert.

Groundcover Solutions
03-08-2001, 06:02 PM
I would like to make $1,000,000 per application but that is not realistic is it?LOL But seriously i do not know how much i should charge i was thinking something like $20 per 3,000sq Ft is that too much or not enough!! i don't know where to begain. I should mintion this will be my first year in the fert app business. Thanks!!!

Kent Lawns
03-08-2001, 08:59 PM
$50 wholesale
$80 retail

jrblawncare
03-09-2001, 05:59 AM
Hometown,this is a great question that us new applicators need to learn,pricing.I hope others will help here as well.I met a guy in my area that has been a great help to me,we are not in the same market but close enough to share information and have become friends,Thanks Mark...As far as 15,000 sq ft....43.00 to 46.00 would be a fair price.Hope this helps.JRB...also this may be an "area & market thing" try to get information from somone around you.

MOW ED
03-09-2001, 07:06 AM
Market wise-across the pond to the west of you I sell a program that is 4 aps granular (plus 1 ap of liquid herbicide spot treat included)for 5.00 per 1000 sq ft. So the 10K sq ft lawn is 50 per ap x 4.
I charge around 6.00 per 1k for single aps without a program. Good Luck

Groundcover Solutions
03-09-2001, 08:41 AM
Thanks for the help guys keep it comeing!!!

Skookum
03-09-2001, 01:26 PM
I charge,

125.00 an acre on a program
comes to about 3.00 a 1,000 sq ft

15,000 sq ft would be $45.00

Groundcover Solutions
03-09-2001, 02:10 PM
THanks guys!! I do all granuler so what brands do you guys use or like. I like the lesco line up but would like some more info on it they don't have much on there web site.

iowastorm
03-09-2001, 03:42 PM
We do nothing but commercial applications and charge .03 per sq. ft. for a 5 step program.

GREG R
03-09-2001, 07:08 PM
My area goes for $2.50 to $3.50 per 1K
The larger yards gets the lower rates
min yard $35.00

TURF PRO INC.
03-10-2001, 03:43 PM
hometown you must be certified and licensed with the state of michigan. Big fines if you get caught without the proper paper work and liscense. you are better off subcontracting it to someone that knows whta they are doing

GroundKprs
03-10-2001, 04:20 PM
Fertilizer pricing is just another time plus materials procedure. Total time you will spend on property for season times your hourly rate for chemical work, plus cost of materials including your markup, all divided by the number of billable visits to the property during the season.

The problem with pricing so much per thousand ft² is that all 7500 ft² properties do not take the same amount of time. Also a 30K property will not take 4x as long as a 7.5K property, will probably only take 2.5x to 3x, but it will take 4x the materials.

So if you price at $xx.xx per 1000 ft², over time you will be keeping all the low profit (timewise) jobs, and the guys bidding time and materials will get all the larger and easier fertilizing jobs.

KirbysLawn
03-11-2001, 12:12 AM
I charge a $35 "stop" fee and $3.00 per 1000sf

Skookum
03-11-2001, 12:27 AM
iowastorm,

.03 per sq ft = $1,307.00 per acre!

Man you are no lowballer!

Or is that .03 per sq ft for the whole year @ 5 apps and not a per app price?

iowastorm
03-11-2001, 08:52 AM
That's .03 per sp ft. for the year for all 5 apps. It ranges depending upon what we're bidding and our competetition for the bid.

Groundcover Solutions
03-11-2001, 12:32 PM
TURF PRO INC., I know that i need a license and am in the proccess of geting it.

WatkinsLawn
03-12-2001, 11:49 PM
As you can see from the previous responses, there are too many things to consider when constructing a pricing stucture to fit your individual operation. I spent hours and hours on a calculator putting together a generic price sheet when I first started and threw it away after I got a year under my belt and discovered there is more to recovering your costs and producing a saticfying profit than I could have possibly figured out until I got out there and learned from experience.
You do have to base your prices on what your particular market will bare. However, and more importantly, you also have to consider how much it costs you to provide that service (and only you can answer that).
In my area, I charge $70.00 per app. for a 15,000 lawn. There our guys that are a little higher and many that are a lot lower. In this area it is not difficult to sell at this price in other areas it would be considered extremely high others a little low. But my prices have taken all of my costs in to consideration and included a reasonable profit. As far as basing your prices on what others are doing it for, I wouldn't worry about what others are doing. Price is relative to customers expectations. If you present yourself as one who concentrates on providing an outstanding service, a superior product and good communication with your customers they will pay well for that.
Good-Luck.
Definately Get Certified.

Lawn Sens
03-14-2001, 10:16 PM
Pricing in Pittsburgh is all over the board. I'm sure it is like that in everyones area. I,ve seen prices at $2.00 per 1000 on 25,000 sf properties. I've seen them at $7.00 per 1000 on 7000sf properties. My 2 cents is to pick the middle of the road. $140.00 40k, $70.00 20k, $50.00 10k, $35.00 5k. Hard to compete with big guys but still good money.

Pentonenterprises
05-04-2001, 01:30 PM
start off with keeping product cost at no more than 20%...that would be for all applications combined....

peteloare
05-04-2001, 06:54 PM
I have a different approach to this pricing problem, concerding the unknown cost of fuel for the whole season.
I apply a 30-3-11 50%s.c.u. 2x per season,Mec-amine d herbicide 2x per season 3.5 pts/acre,merrit 5g 60 lbs/ac.in June.
Pricing-fertilizer 1.90 / 1000
Herbicide 1.84 / 1000
Merrit 8.55 / 1000
Let me know what you people think!!!!!!

GreenQuest Lawn
05-04-2001, 11:39 PM
I get $150 an acer per app. $3.45 per/1000

peteloare
05-05-2001, 06:23 AM
Is that 150.00 / ac. for fertilizer and herbicide or for pesticide to? Are you using liquid urea or grandual?

Pentonenterprises
05-06-2001, 03:10 AM
At an acre (43.000 SF) I am Getting $4.00 per 1000 SF if all 6 applications are utilized....keep in mind we charge 2x the regular application price for the Merit with fertilzer on our 2nd application.

David Gretzmier
05-07-2001, 09:29 PM
we charge .6 per sqare ft, or 6.00 per 1000, 8.50 for merit. I don't give discounts to bigger properties unless I have to to get the job, and then I;ll go to .5 OVER 25000 sq. ft. dave