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lawnboy
08-04-2005, 11:53 AM
What is this, and how do i get rid of it? Looks like an annual bluegrass to me.

arborist-28
08-04-2005, 12:38 PM
post a link ...

lawnboy
08-04-2005, 09:05 PM
how do i make a link?

lawnboy
08-04-2005, 10:15 PM
Ok i think i got it. let me know what u think.

MrBarefoot
08-04-2005, 10:52 PM
Ok i think i got it. let me know what u think.

Where is this lawn, perhaps we can meet there and I can take a look at it. I operate out of warren.

lawnboy
08-05-2005, 07:10 PM
I'm on the other side of the state, South Haven. It looks like the grass tips are shreded. Every time the lawn is mowed it does this, but only to certain clumps of grass. It almost looks like a fountain ornimental grass growing in the lawn. Anyone ever delt with this?

SHOWCASE LAWNS LLC
08-05-2005, 08:07 PM
I Amy Be Wrong But It Looks Like Dull Mower Blades Shredding A Clump Of Turf Type Tall Fescue. Hard To Tell From The Pics.........the Pic Isnt Very Clear On The Computer

MrBarefoot
08-05-2005, 08:12 PM
I'm on the other side of the state, South Haven. It looks like the grass tips are shreded. Every time the lawn is mowed it does this, but only to certain clumps of grass. It almost looks like a fountain ornimental grass growing in the lawn. Anyone ever delt with this?

If the tips are shredded then the first thing you should check is the mower blades.

Are you mowing this lawn?

NattyLawn
08-05-2005, 09:44 PM
I had this happen to me on a lawn this season...It looks like the mower is shredding the poa trivialis, but I could be wrong about the poa....

lawnboy
08-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Ok i know that the mower blades shred it, dull or sharp, but here is the thing. There are only a few areas in the lawn that do this, like a different type of grass. It is spreading!! What my question is how do i get rid of it. Round up is out of the question. Would Sahara work? This is the only lawn that we mow that has this, and we mow over 300 lawns.

lawnboy
08-05-2005, 11:20 PM
here are some more pics.

SHOWCASE LAWNS LLC
08-05-2005, 11:32 PM
Hmmmmm, Hard Fescue ? If Its On Or Near A Hiway Or Right Of Way That Is A Big Possibility. Those Thick Stems Look Like Hard Fescue.

Stop Treating The Lawn With Viagra !!

NattyLawn
08-06-2005, 10:05 AM
Do a search for poa trivialis....

lawnboy
08-06-2005, 05:50 PM
What do i use to get rid of this? Sahara? It is in clumps throughout the lawn

bushtrimmer
08-06-2005, 07:42 PM
What do i use to get rid of this? Sahara? It is in clumps throughout the lawn

No way Spencer.
Sahara is a soil sterilant. You won't be able to get anything to grow there for a year. Why did you say in an earlier post 'no roundup.' That sounds like the best alternative. I would wait til about the last week of the month to spray. Then reseed the first of September, up there you might be able to get away with bumping the schedule up a week.

Russ
08-07-2005, 06:12 AM
Is or was there fountain grass in a landscape bed near?

bif
08-07-2005, 08:22 AM
I'm thinking somewhere, someone, sometime, said it was a type of creeping bentgrass...they said it looked like it was growing upside down (roots) after they mowed it....there was affirmation from some people that is was an undesirable creeping bentgrass...

I have it too, and I use roundup on it thru mid to late august(I do the areas twice), then rake and reseed the dead patches after labor day. I do a little each year instead of doing all at once...

Steve

lawnboy
08-07-2005, 09:17 PM
Ok, glad to know not to use sahara. I'm not real familier with that product, but it was recommended for some grasses i saw in a book. Why cant i plant for a year after using it, just out of curiosity??? There are some fountain grasses near by. I took a sample to lesco the other day, and the guys said it is cheap grass seed the place used, and when the blades hit it the grass tears. I hate to use round up because it is at a hotel in the middle of a town, with high traffic flow. Dont want it to look like crap u know...

bushtrimmer
08-07-2005, 09:38 PM
Ok, glad to know not to use sahara. I'm not real familier with that product, but it was recommended for some grasses i saw in a book. Why cant i plant for a year after using it, just out of curiosity??? There are some fountain grasses near by. I took a sample to lesco the other day, and the guys said it is cheap grass seed the place used, and when the blades hit it the grass tears. I hate to use round up because it is at a hotel in the middle of a town, with high traffic flow. Dont want it to look like crap u know...
Sahara is a soil sterilant. It's good for gravel parking lots and the like as long as there aren't tree roots from desireable trees underneath the gravel or in areas that might get runoff.

Enviro Green
08-07-2005, 10:55 PM
The first thing you need to treat anything is an accurate diagnosis of what you are looking at.

That grass is most likely tumble windmill grass, which is also known by a more generic classification, fingergrass, and it is most often perennial.

Treatment, however, per the Virginia Tech weed science department is difficult at best using selective herbicides, such as msma, the best bet is roundup now and then again in two weeks and then slit seed.

Best of luck, EG

lordohturf
08-07-2005, 11:42 PM
I Amy Be Wrong But It Looks Like Dull Mower Blades Shredding A Clump Of Turf Type Tall Fescue. Hard To Tell From The Pics.........the Pic Isnt Very Clear On The Computer

I think Showcase hit this one! Trivialis shreds very easily compared to other varieties. Roundup would be the only way of ridding yourself of this one. The picture is pretty shady but I think this is right.

snap12.5
08-26-2005, 02:08 PM
Is or was there fountain grass in a landscape bed near?

it is fountain grass for sure. they reseed and form new plants in beds and lawns every year

ProLawns
08-26-2005, 04:50 PM
It's not poa triv, poa annua or hard fescue, I know what these are. I don't know what it is but I have a small patch of it in one of my lawns also. It doesn't mow. Even with sharp blades it's like running over a piece of rope, it just shreds.

cemars
08-26-2005, 05:38 PM
It's not poa triv, poa annua or hard fescue, I know what these are. I don't know what it is but I have a small patch of it in one of my lawns also. It doesn't mow. Even with sharp blades it's like running over a piece of rope, it just shreds.

I have seen the same shredded look in my area from a PITA periennial grass called broomsedge.

bif
08-26-2005, 06:42 PM
it is NOT an annual...it overwinters as a green or semi-green plant...i use round-up (actually spectracide) and then replant....

you do need to spray it at least twice...or you will get a few that still come back...

Steve