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ToroLandscaper
08-18-2005, 11:21 PM
I was thinking today about what the most ideal set up (in terms of mower set up) would be and heres what i came up with tell me if you guys agree or disagree btw this would be for a solo person or a person with a helper
A 52 27Hp ztr,60 wb 23Hp, and a 36 wb 15Hp. IMO that would be the most ideal set up if you are doin a mix of properties some bigger some smaller etc... What do you guys think about that set up ?

ProLawns
08-18-2005, 11:29 PM
I use a 52" Z and a 36" wb. The 36" is for gated properties. Why do you need the 60" wb?

splatz100
08-18-2005, 11:29 PM
Why have a 60 wb, and a 52 ztr?? The ideal setup for a guy with a helper is this: 52" ZTR, 44 ZTR, and a 36 or 32" WB. Also have a side gate on the trailer to save some time.

I think there was another thread on here with over 10 pages on what setup would be ideal.

bushtrimmer
08-18-2005, 11:44 PM
My favorite setup is for a crew that cuts a variety of accounts all week in a 1 square mile area, very tight route. They have a 60" ztr with 28 hp efi, 52" wb w/ 23 hp, and a 36" hydro wb w/ 15 hp.
All exmark

ToroLandscaper
08-18-2005, 11:52 PM
My favorite setup is for a crew that cuts a variety of accounts all week in a 1 square mile area, very tight route. They have a 60" ztr with 28 hp efi, 52" wb w/ 23 hp, and a 36" hydro wb w/ 15 hp.
All exmark



That sounds really ideal to me........the only reason i said a 52" Ztr is becouse there are some properties that are big but they have objects in the way or trees close together. Yeah now that i think of it that would be better a 60 ztr 52 wb 36 wb all hydro and floating deck............and enclosed trailer would be a luxary feature also.

splatz100
08-18-2005, 11:55 PM
just get one of these.......

http://www.neelycoble.com/ls_icon_vanScaper.jpg

ToroLandscaper
08-19-2005, 12:02 AM
just get one of these.......

http://www.neelycoble.com/ls_icon_vanScaper.jpg


LOL yeah thats awesome hate to see the price on one though.....

Jason Rose
08-19-2005, 12:15 AM
I have been kicking this question around a lot too lately...

What's Ideal? I keep telling myself that it just has to be a 60" ZTR, a 42" or 44" ZTR and a 32-33" walkbehind and a 21" just in case.

That's 4 machines for a SOLO guy. Kinda crazy, but the way I'm looking at it, I already carry 4 machines, it's just that my 2 Z's are both the same 50" cut. They can get into tight areas ok and handle big stuff ok. Just perfect for mid-sized. The reason I have 2 is that both are getting up in hours, one had around 2,000 and the other has about 1,200. When the newer one goes down I can throw the catcher on the older one and go right back to mowing and worry about repairs later.

I keep thinking about having the 2 different sizes, the 44 and a 60 for example. I could get thru all the big lawns faster and all the small lawns would be easier to access, as well as I could sneak thru a couple more gates I have. BUUUUT. What happens when the 44" breaks down and the part is a few days out??? That 60" isn';t going to fit AT ALL on the small lawns and I'm stuck walking them taking way too much valuable time. Same goes for what if the 60" dies? the 44" isn't big nor powerful enough to fly thru the big props. granted it can go everywhere but it would make for some loooong days.

I think the moral of the story, and what I just can't get myself talked out of, is that having a machine that's right in the middle is perfect. A 48 to 52 will pretty much go anywhere. Once you buy one and put some hours on it then you can start thinking about a back-up machine, whether it be another used one or just getting a new one and making the other the back-up. It's pretty nice having 2 machines the same make and model. All the parts interchange and keeping parts on hand is much eaiser and less costly.

splatz100
08-19-2005, 12:16 AM
Im gonna be getting an open one for 19k. 1999-diesel-automatic-around 78000 miles.

2k1yzfr1
08-19-2005, 12:17 AM
Over the past 4 years I have found that a 52" ZTR and a 36" walkbehind with a 2 wheel velkie, both mowers with mulch kits, is the most effiecient combination for yards around here. The other 3 mowers in the trailer are just wasting space 90% of the time. Of course if exmark or toro would come out with a 36" ZTR with a 17 kawi and a mulch kit that would be the ultimate back yard mower.

topsites
08-19-2005, 12:18 AM
All I use is a 48" fixdeck Proline with a velke.

Simplicity rules.

grassmanvt
08-19-2005, 12:28 AM
61 or so inch Z's, a 21 for the tiny places. I would also consider a 26 or 28incher to repace the 21 if they made what I wanted. I don't understand why someone would need a large walkbehind like a 52 if they also have a z. Its been my experience that if I could fit a 52, the 61 will fit. Also, I even tried getting a lesser powered z for my second unit and found that it sat on the trailer or myself or the help hated to use it since the big Z was running circles around it. So, for my situation, Its two big Z's, a tiny walk behind and the grass doesn't stand a chance.

Brianslawn
08-19-2005, 01:12 AM
48" walker and 42" walker for small gates. very few gates around here smaller than 40". if they are we turn them down. builder we mow for we told no smaller than 48" on gates at new houses. theyve been co operating. :waving:

Cutter LLC
08-19-2005, 01:30 AM
I only own the 52" super mini z and would not take it off my trailer but would love to add a 72" cat powered z and the small mower, a 36" stander or a hustler walk behind if it can fit everywhere being 37". Pulling with a nice quadcab diesal for business and personal use.

Envy Lawn Service
08-19-2005, 01:35 AM
Its been my experience that if I could fit a 52, the 61 will fit.

That has been my experience also.

For me, overall, the 52" deck size has been a bit of a dissappointment in places. I know the 52" seems to be reguarded as the universal size. But what I have found out over time is personally I feel it's the dead-in-the-water size.

Too big for small places and too small to be productive in wide open spaces.

For me, I have found I can put the 60" pretty much anywhere I can put the 52" and the 60" blows the 52" away in production.

On the other hand I have found that I can't squeeze the 52" into a lot of places where the 48" fits, and I see no measureable production gain with the 52"...

CuttingCrew
08-19-2005, 02:25 AM
48" Stander for speed on medium yards
36" Exmark for small yards & gated yards
push mower for anything the mowers can't get but to big for the trimmer.

Mike

p.s. Opportunity was the driving factor behind the top two purchases. Second year in, first year solo, had to buy what I could when I could and the prices could not be passed up.

I will be adding a 52" Stander and retire the 48" end of next season. :D :D :D

Itsgottobegreen
08-19-2005, 11:46 AM
Equipment from all the same company. Its the key. :blob3: So if one of the main lines go down. You can swap parts. I take 3 standers with me, Usuallly something will go wrong during the week. I got a whole parts machine there. If not the trimmer guy can grab it a mow with it. :D

Personally in the small to medium (under a 1 acre) The 32"/36" and 48"/52" stander combo is the best. For large (acre and up) One 32"/36"/42" wb or stander and two 60" ZTR. 5 acres or more two 72" mower or a WAM. Leave the 21" at home. I only have a toro proline because it was given to me and its a back up to my 32".

Howie's Lawn Care
08-19-2005, 12:05 PM
Toro 21" Commercial, 6HP Kawasaki
Toro 36" WB, 15HP Kohler (or Hustler 37" Hydro Walk-Behind, 15HP Kawasaki)
Toro 52" ZTR, 27HP Kohler (or Hustler 52" Super Mini Z, 27HP Kawaski)
Shindaiwa LE261 Edger
Shindaiwa T270 Trimmer
Shindaiwa EB630RT Backpack Blower
6' X 12' Landscape Trailer w/ Two Gates
Jungle Jim's Trailer Mate Standard
Dual Trimmer Rack
Oil, 12V Air Compressor, Tires, Gas, Blades, String, and Water
4.0L Ford Ranger, 4.3L Chevy Colorado, 4.3L GMC Canyon, or 3.9L Dodge Dakota for Fuel Efficency
Ford F-150, Chevy 1500, GMC 1500, or Dodge Ram 1500 would probably be better.

LawnBrother
08-19-2005, 02:40 PM
I do small to medium sized lawns and the 44" Toro is the perfect size for me. It can get into a lot of tight spaces (including the bed of my truck, which saves me a LOT of time parking, etc.), doesn't really scalp on hills, and mows a lot of grass quickly. I also use a 21" for the really small stuff. I think that a 32" WB or 26" would be a perfect replacement for the 21". So, I say 44" wb, plus a 32" or 26" wb, trimmers, BP blower is just right.

MTR
08-19-2005, 02:56 PM
All I use is a 48" fixdeck Proline with a velke.

Simplicity rules.

Are you carrying only a 48" fixdeck Proline doing all your lawns? I am carrying only my 52" TTHP now on my trailer, it works great this season, in and out and go, more space to use on trailer and lighter on transporting. I also have found that my need for a 36" is almost extinct since most my accounts are having 5' gates for their pools and backyards, so one 52" does it all.