tractor choice

[bruce z.]

We have about 1 acre to mow, mostly flat with trees here and there. Need a snowblower for long driveway and parking area, [we have a b&b].Recently started thinking about a loader to do various jobs around the property, 4 acres, some woods etc. We're looking at the Simplicity Legacy 4wd vs. Deere X 5854wd. The Simplicity dealer is right in town [1 mile away], the Deere dealer is about 35 minutes away in good weather. Price is pretty close between the two. The wife likes the John Deere but I'm leaning towards the Simplicity. What to do? I'd appreciate any help I can get. This is my first tractor purchase.

[MowingInAZ]

I would go with the Deere. I think that the power would be plentiful, and it can definetly accompish your tasks. You can't go wrong with a Deere.

[sarasota lawn care]

dont worry about the drive to the jd dealer, they are had to break

[Ironmower]

They are both very good machines. However, I would go with the John Deere just because the X-series will more than likely be around longer (meaning as in new production) making parts cheaper and more readily available than for the Simplicity, as Simplicity just doesn't have the sales base JD does and they will probably charge more for their parts when that time comes.

But as far as the JD X-585, the engine in it is bulletproof. The Legacy is a good machine as well, but its components will probably be a little harder to find support for in the future.

Simplicity is owned by Briggs and Stratton now.

[True Cut Lawn Maintenance]

But with simplicity you get a floating mower deck that is almost entirly indipendent of the machine and you get the striping roller too

i have two simplicities one for the house and one for biz and i would put them up against anything for cut quality infact the cut quality is better than deere

[Smalltimer1]

But with simplicity you get a floating mower deck that is almost entirly indipendent of the machine and you get the striping roller too

i have two simplicities one for the house and one for biz and i would put them up against anything for cut quality infact the cut quality is better than deere

I had a Simplicity Regent 4211 2 years ago. It cut fine, but the lift system broke on it, and the parts were NLA, so I had to fab up one from scratch.

The JD deck is independent as well, and it uses a partial roller on each side and one on the front in the middle and in the rear.

The only real advantage the Simplicity has is that it could be a better striper out of the box without mods. After you leave the dealer, its all down hill from there for parts and support.

The carb kit for that 4211 I had was $45, and that was for the little 11hp Briggs. The carb kit for my JD 140 and JD 300 with cast iron Kohler K-series engines were only $11.95 each.

[lb59]

I would go with the Deere. I think that the power would be plentiful, and it can definetly accompish your tasks. You can't go wrong with a Deere.
But you can't get A FEL and a Back Hoe for the JD like you can for the Simplicity.

[Smalltimer1]

But you can't get A FEL and a Back Hoe for the JD like you can for the Simplicity.


Yes you can.

http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/HO/servlet/Attachment?attNmbr=3990M&prodNmbr=SKU20474&tM=HO

The backhoe attachment is aftermarket though.

[Guthrie&Co]

go deere. its like chosing between a bmw and a damn pinto for petes sake.

[Smalltimer1]

go deere. its like chosing between a bmw and a damn pinto for petes sake.

I wouldn't quite say that. The Deere is my preference because of the superior dealer network and support. The Simplicity is also a first class machine, but it is harder to find parts for, and most of the Simp dealers are very proud of the parts they do have.

[lb59]

We have about 1 acre to mow, mostly flat with trees here and there. Need a snowblower for long driveway and parking area, [we have a b&b].Recently started thinking about a loader to do various jobs around the property, 4 acres, some woods etc. We're looking at the Simplicity Legacy 4wd vs. Deere X 5854wd. The Simplicity dealer is right in town [1 mile away], the Deere dealer is about 35 minutes away in good weather. Price is pretty close between the two. The wife likes the John Deere but I'm leaning towards the Simplicity. What to do? I'd appreciate any help I can get. This is my first tractor purchase.

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[jsmonroeCT]

I had a similar decision a few years ago and I was set on a JD. However, once I walked into the JD dealer and received "quality service", I took my business to the simplicity dealer. The simplicity dealer was great, helpful and still remembers me from over two years ago, even though the tractor has never needed a part or service.

Both machine are first rate so I would go on which dealer makes you more comfortable. IMO thats the only thing thats stopping you.

Good luck.

[Grandview]

I have a Legacy. 1600 hrs no problem. The improved Legacy appears to be an even better machine. For me it would be Simplicity. Great machines. You see a lot of old ones around here and they keep their value if cared for.

[Guthrie&Co]

here is another thing to look at. 50 years from now you probably wont be able to go to the dealer and get parts from simplicity. 50 years form now i can go to john derre and order parts for my 1952 jd 50. just go right up to the counter and order any part i need. no matter how old it is. i odubt that simplicity will be able to do that then

[dfischer]

Personally, I love green, but I don't get the x585, and it certainly makes no sense w/FEL. A 2210w/FEL is about the same price, and is Much more tractor. In fact, JD has disco'd the 2210 and replaced it w/2305 (as I recall) that's a bit less expensive but still offers the diesel and etc.. so maybe that one.

All the above said, can you say Kubota? BX23 maybe?

BTW, the deere's deck won't cut as well as either the simplicity or the kubota

Just for grins, check out a new holland TZ22DA.

[Grandview]

I also have a New Holland DC-21. It is more of a work horse than the Simplicity.

[lb59]

[QUOTE=dfischer] All the above said, can you say Kubota? BX23 maybe?

QUOTE] Another good one to check out is the Massey Ferguson GC2310.

[lb59]

We have about 1 acre to mow, mostly flat with trees here and there. Need a snowblower for long driveway and parking area, [we have a b&b].Recently started thinking about a loader to do various jobs around the property, 4 acres, some woods etc. We're looking at the Simplicity Legacy 4wd vs. Deere X 5854wd. The Simplicity dealer is right in town [1 mile away], the Deere dealer is about 35 minutes away in good weather. Price is pretty close between the two. The wife likes the John Deere but I'm leaning towards the Simplicity. What to do? I'd appreciate any help I can get. This is my first tractor purchase.
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I would prefer a sub compact over the JD and Simplicity garden tractors you mention.
Judging from what you say you want to use the tractor for I believe you need something more than a garden tractor for those task.

I would look at the Kubota BX1500 Sub Compact tractor.
I just priced one for $5700.00. How does that compare to the prices you got on the JD and Simplicity?

[Smalltimer1]

Cub Cadet has a gas compact tractor for around that price.

[lb59]

Cub Cadet has a gas compact tractor for around that price.
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Which model would that be?
Is it a compact or is it a Sub Compact.

[Grandview]

The Simplicity Legacy is more than a garden tractor. I believe it has a 27 hp engine. It has a category 1 three point, four wheel drive, and a 540 rear pto. You can put a loader on it also. Four an acre it should be enough.

[lb59]

[QUOTE=Grandview]1*The Simplicity Legacy is more than a garden tractor.
2* It has a category 1 three point,
3*and a 540 rear pto.
4** You can put a loader on it also.
5*Four an acre it should be enough.
Grandview
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1*I haven't seen it officially classified as such.
2*A 490 dollar extra cost option.
3*Another 745 dollar extra cost option.
4*A BX1500 should be enough too. and at a lot less cost At $5700 v s $10168 for the Simplicity Legacy

[lb59]

We have about 1 acre to mow, mostly flat with trees here and there. Need a snowblower for long driveway and parking area, [we have a b&b].Recently started thinking about a loader to do various jobs around the property, 4 acres, some woods etc. We're looking at the Simplicity Legacy 4wd vs. Deere X 5854wd. The Simplicity dealer is right in town [1 mile away], the Deere dealer is about 35 minutes away in good weather. Price is pretty close between the two. The wife likes the John Deere but I'm leaning towards the Simplicity. What to do? I'd appreciate any help I can get. This is my first tractor purchase.
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[beran34]

here is another thing to look at. 50 years from now you probably wont be able to go to the dealer and get parts from simplicity. 50 years form now i can go to john derre and order parts for my 1952 jd 50. just go right up to the counter and order any part i need. no matter how old it is. i odubt that simplicity will be able to do that then
You never need parts for simplicity cause they never break down. like the jds do.

[mike lane lawn care]

my personal choice is the simplicty, they are great machines with a rear PTO and front loader options. the floating deck is great and cuts excellent. with the 4WD and traction control you will never slip. and it's right in town, if anything goes wrong, which it won't, it's just down the road aways.