View Full Version : Gas prices jumping up like kernels of popcorn! Solution?
Mr. Magpie
08-31-2005, 11:57 AM
22:30 8/29 - $2.69 @ UGas
10:30 8/30 - $2.89 @ UGas
S. Florida
Why can't we all have converted deisels while using used vegetable oil that we are PAID .70 to haul away!!?? This is possible with an easy way to keep the oil heated in its tank..... WHY WHY WHY isn't this being done? With government credits taken away from the Toyota Pious (Prius) owners and given to us business owners, we could use that money to pay for the conversion..... while using the rest of the money for batteries to keep the oil hot in between running.
Come on, the farther you drive, the richer you become? Where do we all sign up?
dmc456
08-31-2005, 12:02 PM
Louisville $2.42 8/31/05
C&KLawnCare
08-31-2005, 12:04 PM
Morgantown WV 5:00 pm yesterday 2.54/g 7:00 pm last night 2.74 10:00 am today 2.90 and climbing , Enough is enough of this gouging horseshit , someplaces on the raidio i just heard is 3.29 in WV , Gee just in time for the holiday weekend . Dirty rotten SOB I hope the truckers shut the USA down for a mnth . Strangle bush and the oil tycoons , Aint it funny that Bush is releasing oil and the prices are still climbing ,
DRM Ventures
08-31-2005, 12:35 PM
Why is it all GB's fault? If we didn't have such a high demand, the prices would not be this high.....
C&KLawnCare
08-31-2005, 12:41 PM
Why is it all GB's fault? If we didn't have such a high demand, the prices would not be this high.....
Christ pull your head out of your ass THEIR IS NO SHORTAGE AND THEIR IS NO HIGER DEMAND .
THE HIGHER DEMAND IS AS FAKE AS THE EASTERBUNNIE. Refinerys shut down on purpose to jack prices , Today we have gas soraing up and up one station in Ravenswood wv is at 3.59 a gallon reported on the radio now bullshit .
HURRICANES NEVER EVER EFFECTED GAS PRICES IN THE LAST 100 YEARS . WHY NOW ???????
WE HAVE A IDIOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE VOTED IN BY BIGGER IDOTS THE 2ND ROUND
Giving bush the benifit of the doubt , is opening the reserves now why in hell is gas climbing like a rocket other than coperate greed , That is time to get Gasoline off the future trading crap, and take a stand and starve the oil tycoons like their starving us . prices have went up 3 times at sheets i know that got a load this morning .
MBDiagMan
08-31-2005, 12:50 PM
No higher demand? Refineries shut down on purpose? I think you need to get your own head above water.
The worldwide higher demand is FACT. Who would intentionally shut down or allow a refinery to be shut down when the bottleneck is refinery capacity? That would be like if you were to stop mowing so that the demand would go up thus raising prices. Do you think that there would not be another LCO that would go mow those lawns?
I find it absolutely UNBELIEVABLE that folks want to blame high prices on George Bush. Oil prices are supply and demand driven and we are lucky to have them as low as they are. Have you ever been to Europe? Gas costs $7 or $8 in Europe.
Do you realize that adjusted for inflation gas prices are NOT at an all time high? The all time high was 1981. We pay MUCH more for cars, groceries, mowers, real estate and most everything else than we did since 1981. We have had some really easy years on fuel prices but that just can't last forever.
Take it like an adult.
Have a great day,
Doc
C&KLawnCare
08-31-2005, 12:55 PM
The worldwide higher demand is FACT. BULLCRAP
It is fake and has been proven that it is how many damned refinerys we have sitting idle huh????????????????? Why are they idle Hell ask bush
. Who would intentionally shut down or allow a refinery to be shut down when the bottleneck is refinery capacity?
OPEC ya fool thats who so the future trading could cause a scare and PREDICT some False info to jack prices up .
If people would wake up . Some one dies and gas shoots up now , what in hell did his death have anything to do with refinery of oil.. Over the years of hurricanes . hell in 1985 50% of wv was under flood waters due to a Hurricane guess what gas was not rasing 45-50 cents a day . I dont think it even budged . How many hurricanes and tropical storms have happened thru history that ever raised gas .
You sir need to wake the hell up
olderthandirt
08-31-2005, 01:03 PM
Ever hear of a small place called CHINA? there growing economy is useing more oil than ever before, and theres been no refinery built in the last few decades :dizzy: :dizzy:
C&KLawnCare
08-31-2005, 01:06 PM
Ever hear of a small place called CHINA? there growing economy
Oh christ not that line of bs they got going around again , China has not one iota thing to do with our Prices
My daddy taught me that you can't win an argument with a fool...so I guess I'll just stay out of this one.
olderthandirt
08-31-2005, 01:10 PM
My daddy taught me that you can't win an argument with a fool...so I guess I'll just stay out of this one.
I concur with your statement!
C&KLawnCare
08-31-2005, 01:33 PM
RUSH: Now, I want to get back to this gasoline business because I, ladies and gentlemen, was a bit flippant with a caller from Farmington, New Mexico -- and her name was Elizabeth, and she was upset at the price of gasoline, and I wasn't flippant... Well, I was flippant. We had a call from an Exxon station owner. What was his name? I'm having a brief mental block on his name. Brett, what was the Exxon gas station owner's name? Okay. Well, whatever. This guy, it's a good thing he called this program, because if he'd have called a liberal program he would have been blamed for part of the problem for owning a gas station, polluting the planet and all that. He called the right place. He made a point. All of these different formulations in gasoline that the EPA requires, you don't know how much that adds to the price of gasoline, folks. It's phenomenal. We have over 40 blends required in this country. California has its own. I think southern California has its own, versus northern California. So if you run out in any particular region of the country you just can't go get it from anywhere else. You have to go get the same formulation, otherwise you are in violation of the law. The costs mount, you know, we don't have any new refineries in, what, 20 years? We haven't built any new refineries in 20 years, can't go out in ANWR and drill for our own oil. But there's a website out there, it's an inflation calculator basically. In 1974, everything -- it was Joe in Ramsey, New Jersey; that's right. As I say, good thing he called this program. If he'd have called some other program he would have been hung up and shouted at and vilified and insulted for participating and causing a problem, as a gas station owner, "How dare he?" This website calculates the inflation.
Whatever it was that cost one dollar in 1974 would cost about three dollars and ten or 20 cents today so gasoline prices way below that. So the inflation rate still exceeds the price of gasoline. Doesn't matter. In real terms it's up there and it affects everybody's back pocket. So what are the things that can be done about this? Well, you wouldn't believe the number of taxes that are in a gallon of gasoline. And it's just like you wouldn't believe the taxes in your phone bill. Do you know you are still paying taxes on your phone bill to make sure that farmers have phones? The Rural Collective Phone tax? You're also still paying a tax on your phone bill for those buildings that Clinton and Gore personally wired for the Internet. Well, it's no different with gasoline. There are so many taxes in a gallon of gasoline, and if all these politicians were that concerned about the economic impact, ladies and gentlemen, the price of gasoline, they could temporarily suspend some of these taxes; they could permanently cut some of these taxes. Oh, no, but they won't do that because there's one thing government will never do without and there's one thing that government will never even do less of, and that's money. Oh, yes. When our taxes are raised, they don't give one thought to whether or not we could absorb it and afford it. But when tax cuts are proposed, the people in the government ask, "Well, how we going to pay for this? Well, how we going to pay for it? How we gonna make up for it? We can't do without that!" But we're expected to. Everybody else is expected to. So the next time you hear some politician trying to get on your good side by bellyaching and moaning about the price of gasoline, why don't you ask him, "Why don't you do something about it, then?"
Since we can't do anything about imports right now, since we can't go into ANWR, since we can't drill anywhere else and since we have all these stupid, silly different formulations, why don't you just temporarily suspend some of the taxes in gasoline? Just ask him that. If you're really concerned, if you really want to help us in the back pocket, really want to help us at the family dinner table, really want to help us out here with the family economics and the income, just get rid of some of the taxes in it. It's not that hard to do. And you just watch their reaction. "Well, we need a majority to do that. I don't know what kind of legislation that would require. That's a good idea, we'll put it in the hopper, I'll throw it around with my staff," blah, blah, blah, blah. Nothing will ever happen on it. As I wrote, ladies and gentlemen, in the recent issue of the Limbaugh Letter, "No Oil Shortage" was the title of this article. Let me just read to you what I wrote in the final graph. "Also, as I've been telling you, the Futures Market has had a significant effect on gasoline prices. 'Prices are clearly advancing because of rampant speculation,' says industry analyst Michael Fitzpatrick according to Air Finance Journal, and Julian Switharno of Capital Economics says, 'The degree of speculation in the present markets [this is the oil markets] has been underestimated as an important component in present prices," and if you go look at the latest federal budget figures as they put them out periodically you'll find that the actual cost of a barrel of gasoline is nowhere near the 60 bucks. Sixty bucks is the futures price because you've got people betting on it one way or the other. But the bottom line here is we're in for a bit of an oil futures bubble.
What we need to do is precisely nothing, because capitalism eventually corrects itself. Now, there are tough times, and it is stressful and painful, and there are immediate steps people could take like getting rid of some of those taxes, but they won't do it. No, you'll hear, "We need to release some of the oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve! Why, we need to get smaller cars! We need hybrids. We need," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What was that statistic we heard yesterday about hybrids? Oh, I know what it is. If miraculously tomorrow -- get this, folks; I heard this from an automobile company executive. These people, they're interested in selling hybrids, because there's the demand. If all 220 million vehicles in the United States were automatically made hybrid vehicles tomorrow, it would only take six years for us to be back right where we are today in terms of gas supply, price, usage, and all that. The point is that everybody going hybrid is not going to save that much fuel. It will only take six years to get us back to right where we are today in current usage levels. If every car were a hybrid tomorrow, we'd be right back in six years where we are today in terms of how much we consume, how much we consume. There is no question about it. So don't even buy that silly argument. It's not about conversation. It's about production. It's a growing economy. Growing means producing. We've got to go find more supply. There's plenty of oil out there. Don't let anybody tell you there's not.
RUSH: John in Chicago, I'm glad you called, welcome to the EIB Network.
CALLER: Hello, Rush, nice talking to you. Friends of mine who are Democrats can't answer this and maybe you can. Oil prices have gone from $30 a barrel to $60 a barrel, yet the American economy keeps growing and growing and growing to the point where Greenspan has to increase interest rates so we don't have any inflation. Unemployment is 5%. Real wages were announced today, up again. The last two years there have been $100 billion reductions, Rush, in the deficit, and I ask my Democratic friends, "How can this be? How can this be?" and I don't get an answer, and I simply say, "Market economy forces and tax cuts in the right places." What do you think?
RUSH: Yeah, you've nailed it. Leaving as much of the free economy alone as you can and cutting taxes, which allows people more usage of their money to hire people or engage in commerce or what have you. There's an old saw here that you can't reduce deficits while reducing inflation, and we proved them wrong twice on that. We did it in the eighties and we're doing it now.
DRM Ventures
08-31-2005, 02:01 PM
My daddy taught me that you can't win an argument with a fool...so I guess I'll just stay out of this one.
yep....you are right.....
I'm out.
MarcSmith
08-31-2005, 02:14 PM
every day a kid turns sixteen and and old fart does not die, demand increases....
We have become such a disposable society that its cheaper to throw something away and buy a new one as opposed to trying to fix the broken item... I'm guilty....Hell I through away a printer when the ink ran out, it was cheaper to buy a new printer than new ink :dizzy:
Oil is in everything, sneakers to plastic wrap.... We are victims of our own wastefulness....If we had learned to conserve years ago, or at the very least learned from the high prices in Europe we would be ready....
Go ahead and take the taxes out of the gas prices....see what your roads look like in a few years with no maintenance...
Heck I rememebr when I graduated High school I could buy a gallon of gas for less than a 16oz soda....now I'm happy if I can buy a gallon of gas for less than a gallon of milk...
Just think how much OIL we are wasting waging a war in iraq....
Vassk1
08-31-2005, 02:19 PM
Since there is such a high demand for gasoline like some of you said, then why is the price in Venezuala 17 cents a gallon. Yeah that's right. 17 freaking cents a gallon. It's easy to blame Bush because his family is in the oil business. It's also correct to blame him. No question about it. We have many refineries that aren't even fully staffed. They are extremely expensive to build (in the billions) but at least have them running 100%.
Take GB's side all you want boys and girls, he's getting a hell of a lot richer with these prices, and I pretty much guarantee you aren't.
MarcSmith
08-31-2005, 02:41 PM
http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html
geeee we are still much cheaper than Europe, but closing fast...
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/price.html
In Venezuela, on the other hand, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens, he said. All prices updated May, 2004.
go live in any othe following countries of you want cheap gas, just don't complain about your quality of life...
CAMBODIA, TAIWAN, LAOS, THAILAND, CHINA, RUSSIA, KAZAKHSTAN, TAJIKISTAN, AZERBAIJAN, VENEZUELA
Lets give the government control of something as powerfull as OIL.....Might as well give them your first born....
C&KLawnCare
08-31-2005, 02:46 PM
Go ahead and take the taxes out of the gas prices....see what your roads look like in a few years with no maintenance...
Tell ya the truth i dont think we would notice in WV anyway .
They waste more of it than spent. any how . No operators on equipment that have 1/3rd a brain , waste blacktop pacth in wet weather, ect ect
Mowing brush big ole fancy tractor and mower and they have no clue how to cut brush. leave it laying in the roadway .
Think berming a road is dumping it on the ground and shoving it in the ditch with a grader. Not near the proper way of doing it.
Ditches 6ft deep in places , No need at all for a road ditch that deep.
Berms that have been missing for years , send a grader out and spend a mnth berming and i swear a dog pissing in the snow could hit more spots than they do.
Plowing snow OMG these idiots do not have a clue . But 45mph and faster tossing cinders geeeeeeee guess where the cinders go sure not the road . So untill WV uses the tax money made ON THE DAMN ROADS , They need to get rid of it .
daveintoledo
08-31-2005, 02:48 PM
but they already contol oil , some people just arent aware.....they also control prescription drugs
rpads couldnt be mush worse here, known on cnn as the pothole capital of the U.S.
MarcSmith
08-31-2005, 03:05 PM
Tell ya the truth i dont think we would notice in WV anyway .
I see the same thing here in VA....but most of our rodes are paved.....with pot holes...
dmc456
08-31-2005, 03:20 PM
Louisville $2.42 8/31/05
At lunch today....$3.09 up from $2.42 this morning. Are you kidding?
QualityLawnCare4u
08-31-2005, 03:39 PM
2.47 yesterday to 3.07 today.
daveintoledo
08-31-2005, 03:49 PM
predicts 4 dollars a gallon possible hahahahahhaah go get em gw
PLM-1
08-31-2005, 03:49 PM
2.47 yesterday to 3.07 today.
I really don't wanna say much but, my family has many oil wells on farm land. Each well gets paid on regardless if it is pumping or not. They have been shut down for 3 years because there is NO WHERE TO STORE THE OIL because it is of abundance! I was watching some news station and price gouging investigations won't begin until fuel passes the $6 mark...that's BS too...
...and that's all i got to say...about that...
oh one more thing...how many oil wells does GW have on his land in the great state of Texas?? hmmm
Lux Lawn
08-31-2005, 04:10 PM
We jumped 49 cents a gallon today,from $2.70 to $3.19 for 87 octane.
Carolina Cutter
08-31-2005, 04:19 PM
every day a kid turns sixteen and and old fart does not die, demand increases....
We have become such a disposable society that its cheaper to throw something away and buy a new one as opposed to trying to fix the broken item... I'm guilty....Hell I through away a printer when the ink ran out, it was cheaper to buy a new printer than new ink :dizzy:
Oil is in everything, sneakers to plastic wrap.... We are victims of our own wastefulness....If we had learned to conserve years ago, or at the very least learned from the high prices in Europe we would be ready....
Go ahead and take the taxes out of the gas prices....see what your roads look like in a few years with no maintenance...
Heck I rememebr when I graduated High school I could buy a gallon of gas for less than a 16oz soda....now I'm happy if I can buy a gallon of gas for less than a gallon of milk...
Just think how much OIL we are wasting waging a war in iraq....
Heck...come to NC and see what they look like NOW with the taxes....I can't imagine much worse!
jt5019
08-31-2005, 04:34 PM
Why not blame Bush... EVERYTHING is his fault no matter what happens.Hell some people are blaming him for the hurricane hitting New Orleans now. The main problem is we dont have enough refineries and the ones we have are old.This is not Bush's fault period. We cant build new refineries because the enviromentalists flip out and get the dems to put a stop to it.Now that its all coming back to bite us in the ass everyone wants to run and blame bush as usual.
Guthrie&Co
08-31-2005, 04:40 PM
Christ pull your head out of your ass THEIR IS NO SHORTAGE AND THEIR IS NO HIGER DEMAND .
HURRICANES NEVER EVER EFFECTED GAS PRICES IN THE LAST 100 YEARS . WHY NOW ???????
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probobly because we have some oil rigs sheraed from the ocean floor thus not being about to produce. be a thinker for us ok?
jt5019
08-31-2005, 04:47 PM
All the oil in the world doesnt matter if we dont have refineries
Just within 3 mile range here 3.09 t0 3.25
DRM Ventures
09-01-2005, 07:12 AM
All the oil in the world doesnt matter if we dont have refineries
I can't resist.......excellent point...........
And why do we have such limited refinery capacity????? anyone??? anyone????
answer.......because all the environmentalist haven't allowed more to be built.....for the last 25 years.....
betterlawn
09-01-2005, 01:13 PM
I can't resist.......excellent point...........
And why do we have such limited refinery capacity????? anyone??? anyone????
answer.......because all the environmentalist haven't allowed more to be built.....for the last 25 years.....
No - because it didn't make financial sense for the oil companies. They're making HUGE profits no matter what the oil price does. Sure it would be cheaper to build a refinery if there were no environmental concerns - China does it. Have you seen the "industrial revolution" in China? Bring your breathing mask.
Nice line of Limbaugh crap though...
Simple economics, all American free market - nothing too complicated. People keep acting like the government builds the refineries.
Grassmechanic
09-01-2005, 02:27 PM
No - because it didn't make financial sense for the oil companies. They're making HUGE profits no matter what the oil price does. Sure it would be cheaper to build a refinery if there were no environmental concerns - China does it. Have you seen the "industrial revolution" in China? Bring your breathing mask.
Nice line of Limbaugh crap though...
Simple economics, all American free market - nothing too complicated. People keep acting like the government builds the refineries.
I doesn't make financial sense because of the regulations imposed. I takes 15 years just to pass the permit process. If you owned an oil co., would you put up with the red tape necessary to build a new refinery?? I wouldn't.
Gnyus
09-01-2005, 03:33 PM
I doesn't make financial sense because of the regulations imposed. I takes 15 years just to pass the permit process. If you owned an oil co., would you put up with the red tape necessary to build a new refinery?? I wouldn't.
To add to you argument the gaz demand is unelastic, meaning that no matter what the price is the demand stays ruffly the same. For oil corp it is easier to increase their profit by simulating a shortage in gaz supply to get the price to increase then building new rafineries at collosal costs.
betterlawn
09-01-2005, 04:29 PM
I doesn't make financial sense because of the regulations imposed. I takes 15 years just to pass the permit process. If you owned an oil co., would you put up with the red tape necessary to build a new refinery?? I wouldn't.
If they thought they'd make more money building a refinery they would. 15 years is not that long for a major piece of infrastructure.
If I owned an oil company I would have been told that its better to have 10 refineries running at 95% capacity than 12 running at 80%. Its simple economics. The "environmental" costs associated with building the refinery pale in comparison with the profit they make.
start2finish
09-01-2005, 07:36 PM
food for thought. In the late 1990's the bottom fell out of oil because the Eastern Asian ecomony nearly collapsed, hence the BS you say. We were paying 0.35 a gallon for off road diesel, 0.88 a gallon for on road gas and diesel, hell the majority of the cost was in taxes. I do not agree with these outrageous prices, but Asia (BTW China is in Asia) is definetly connected to the global demand for oil. so flame on...................
qualitylandscaping
09-01-2005, 07:57 PM
$3.29 here.. And still going up
Can anyone say fuel surcharges!!!!!!!!!!! payup
Only thing about it that bothers me is the pumps that stop at $50.00 or $75.00.. With prices as high as they are, it doesn't take long to run that up there, then you have to run the card again 6 more times just to finish the first row of rigs.. :help:
topsites
09-01-2005, 08:02 PM
My daddy taught me that you can't win an argument with a fool...so I guess I'll just stay out of this one.
LOL yeah but on the other hand we DO only have a THIRD of the Oil prospectors (ppls actively looking for as-of-yet undiscovered oil) than we did in the 90's... I'm not entirely on the side of stupidity, I agree the demand AND the supply issue is real BUT I also say it was influenced somewhat, there is no doubt in my mind that the big guys sat back for a bit too long, just long enough, so to speak ... It's like, come on, you can't tell me in ALL these years they could NOT have built a few more refineries because THAT story really IS old, I've heard it several times in the past 20-some years.
But either way it really doesn't matter in the end, I just get a bad feeling we're all really skru'd thou and this sux. I got full tanks but what good does it do, they'll be empty in 2 weeks if there's no more... What good does a 50-gallon drum do, that's just another 10 or 14 days and it's gone, too...
start2finish
09-01-2005, 08:07 PM
you are right, we will all get throught this, and my thoughts and prayers are with the real victims of Katrina. The people without food or shelter, and all the people that are living in motels and can't get back to see if they have a home. I know it is tough with gas prices skyrocketing, but all of us that still have internet connections, power and food, roofs over our heads......It could be us that are homeless.
topsites
09-01-2005, 08:11 PM
every day a kid turns sixteen and and old fart does not die, demand increases....
Oil is in everything, sneakers to plastic wrap.... We are victims of our own wastefulness....If we had learned to conserve years ago, or at the very least learned from the high prices in Europe we would be ready....
Go ahead and take the taxes out of the gas prices....see what your roads look like in a few years with no maintenance...
Just think how much OIL we are wasting waging a war in iraq....
That's about right on the money about what I mean when I say the whole thing is influenced... But as far as saving, the ONLY thing saving WOULD have done is today we would be readier but had we consumed only HALF the fuel in the past 100 years (or close to it), demand today is still TRIPLE what it was in the 80's so we really would've only saved maybe 20% and we'd have, what, a year or two time?
On that last note, that's the other thing frustrates me is even if we HAD that year or two, do you think things would be any different if we did? I think NOT because if the answer were yes then WHY are things the way they are today? Again, it's this effin' complacency and the devil may care.
topsites
09-01-2005, 08:13 PM
http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas1.html
geeee we are still much cheaper than Europe, but closing fast...
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/price.html
In Venezuela, on the other hand, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens, he said. All prices updated May, 2004.
go live in any othe following countries of you want cheap gas, just don't complain about your quality of life...
CAMBODIA, TAIWAN, LAOS, THAILAND, CHINA, RUSSIA, KAZAKHSTAN, TAJIKISTAN, AZERBAIJAN, VENEZUELA
Lets give the government control of something as powerfull as OIL.....Might as well give them your first born....
If I'm not mistaken, you forgot to mention these prices are per LITER and not per gallon, so to make it easy, figure it as prices / quart.
PLM-1
09-02-2005, 12:26 AM
87 is 3.09 here...diesel is 2.59!!!! go diesel!
MarcSmith
09-02-2005, 07:06 AM
top.
actually all of the charts converted all countries to gallons or liters. if you look at the charts it will show this.
besides I don't think the Brtis are paying $20 a gallon....at least I hope not....
MarcSmith
09-02-2005, 07:19 AM
we jumped from under $3 per gallon to over $3 per gallon over night.....I still got 1/2 tank left so I'm not buying just yet.....
Grassmechanic
09-02-2005, 08:19 AM
If they thought they'd make more money building a refinery they would. 15 years is not that long for a major piece of infrastructure.
The "environmental" costs associated with building the refinery pale in comparison with the profit they make.
So, you'd be willing to pay wages and benefits for people that work for you for 15 years, and then hope and pray you've done everything right, then IF you're lucky, you'd get a permit to build?? Then it would take a few years after that to build the refinery. A generation has passed by the time you'd get product to the market. how can a company possibly project market conditions that far in advance?? You'd be bankrupt in no time. 15 years is wayyyyy too long, 5 years would be more acceptable.
CutApproved
09-02-2005, 11:49 AM
Bull Crap!!!
DRM Ventures,, you don't think GB and his dad are making a mint on this,, give me a break, I'm a republican but geeze comeon man!!
If he had our troops at home and let the idiots over there just kill themselves our fuel rate would not be this high. Were using hundreds of gallons a day over in the war,, and where is it coming from?
Scapegoat
09-02-2005, 12:02 PM
Prices here are still at $2.79, same as all week. Still no lines and no shortage so far here.
MarcSmith
09-02-2005, 12:11 PM
jumped 20 cents over night...to 3.15......time to carpool
chimmygew
09-13-2005, 06:10 PM
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P116177.asp?GT1=6970
MarcSmith
09-14-2005, 08:30 AM
All good points mind you, but when gas prices rise 50-75 cents in a 48 hour period as a result of speculative catastrophic losses fed by the press which ultimatley does not occur, and then the price of the main component of gas (crude) drops back down to the same price before the "dissaster", yet gas prices are dopping about 3-4 cents per day, yes that is gouging.....buts its also economics...
What got me was the fact the prices were going up at the gas pump, while the gas station was still using "old gas" There was a lot of profiteering going on, based in part on the doomsday predictions of the press....
Gas is coming down here. Got it for 2.65 Stil high but better than 3.09 or higher.
QualityLawnCare4u
09-15-2005, 10:48 PM
Ours dropped to 2.64 today. Still high but not as bad as 3.31. Thats what the gas company wants for us to get it in our mind "hey 2.60 is better than 3.00"
willretire@40
09-18-2005, 04:16 PM
2.59 around here
Woody82986
09-18-2005, 04:53 PM
FIlled up the fiance's car last night for $2.45... I didn't figure I would be jumping for $2.45 gas this early in my life but I was.
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