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Shady Brook
09-02-2005, 09:13 PM
Does anyone know how many cores per square foot a pl800 aerator pulls?

roushjh
09-03-2005, 03:05 AM
Core Spacing: 2.25" x 8"

That would put you at about 11 to 12 per sq ft, by my calculations. However, these units wheels aren't driven. I can push mine a little or pull it back a little to increase/decrease to get the desired results.

Hope that helps

roushjh
09-03-2005, 03:09 AM
I should add that I'm very happy with the 600 I just got. I've done a couple lawns in the past couple days and it seems to pull 50% or more plugs than the Billy Goat I rented in the spring.

Shady Brook
09-03-2005, 06:41 AM
Thank you for the input, it is helpful. I was hopeing the pl800 would give me more cores per foot then some of the other walkbehind units. Seems to me, the old Ryans were around 8 per foot. Need to make many passes to do much good!

Thanks

DLS1
09-03-2005, 09:37 AM
I should add that I'm very happy with the 600 I just got. I've done a couple lawns in the past couple days and it seems to pull 50% or more plugs than the Billy Goat I rented in the spring.

I will renting the BillyGoat again this year in two weeks. How easy is it on the body using the PL600 vs. BillyGoat.

6'7 330
09-03-2005, 11:30 AM
Thank you for the input, it is helpful. I was hopeing the pl800 would give me more cores per foot then some of the other walkbehind units. Seems to me, the old Ryans were around 8 per foot. Need to make many passes to do much good!

Thanks


The Ryan gets nine holes a sq.foot, if the pl800 does get 12 you still need another pass. An effective aeration requires 20 to 22 holes a sq foot.

I Assume the pl800 is cam driven?
The Ryan can be a tiresome bear over the course of the day, and cause much operator fatique for the workers.So you might want to take how the two handle into consideration to.

roushjh
09-04-2005, 06:49 PM
I will renting the BillyGoat again this year in two weeks. How easy is it on the body using the PL600 vs. BillyGoat.

I did just 2 yards (about 4 or 5 k each) in the spring with the Billy Goat, and was extremely sore the next morning. I've done a couple yards already with my Plugr, but on different days, but wasn't really sore at all. I'm not sure if you can rent Plugr's in KC though.

khutch
09-17-2005, 07:59 AM
Just did a 10k yard in a little over an hour w/the 600. Kinda of surprised it was that quick - not an easy property w/some hills and not a lot of open spaces.

Shady Brook
09-18-2005, 09:14 AM
I purchased a pl800 almost two weeks ago. I really like the simple design, and ease of maintenence. We have had bad conditions lately, serious drought, but I needed to do some seeding before it was too late.

I discovered if the ground is hard dry clay you are not going to get great penatration. I was going by some of the other respected members of LS when they said it will pull cores out of tree roots when I purchased the machine. Maybe it has done so, but in hard dry clay, you are not going to pull anything much over an inch! That was disapointing to me, I figure I could have gotten close to that with a drum type. If you opporate on a hill in hard dry clay, you can likely do 10,000 feet in 10 minutes because it will drag you around the yard.

If the soil is soft or moist, you have to push the beast around the yard or it will act as a tiller. This was also a bit disapointing.

If you try to use it on a hill when it is soft and moist.... You are going to get a mighty pushing workout, and likely not be able to complete the job! It was brutal!

I found that in hard clay, I likely got somewhere between 8-12 cores a foot. In moist clay allowing the machine to move at it's own pace I probably was in the 15-20 range. If you give resistance in soft soil, you can get as many as you want.

Is it easier to turn then a traditional drum? Yes
Will it pull better cores then a drum? I believe in the right conditions.
Will it pull more cores then a drum? Yes most of the time?
Am I happy that I purchased it over a split drive? I am not sure yet.

DLS1
09-18-2005, 12:06 PM
I purchased a pl800 almost two weeks ago. I really like the simple design, and ease of maintenence. We have had bad conditions lately, serious drought, but I needed to do some seeding before it was too late.

I discovered if the ground is hard dry clay you are not going to get great penatration. I was going by some of the other respected members of LS when they said it will pull cores out of tree roots when I purchased the machine. Maybe it has done so, but in hard dry clay, you are not going to pull anything much over an inch! That was disapointing to me, I figure I could have gotten close to that with a drum type. If you opporate on a hill in hard dry clay, you can likely do 10,000 feet in 10 minutes because it will drag you around the yard.

If the soil is soft or moist, you have to push the beast around the yard or it will act as a tiller. This was also a bit disapointing.

If you try to use it on a hill when it is soft and moist.... You are going to get a mighty pushing workout, and likely not be able to complete the job! It was brutal!

I found that in hard clay, I likely got somewhere between 8-12 cores a foot. In moist clay allowing the machine to move at it's own pace I probably was in the 15-20 range. If you give resistance in soft soil, you can get as many as you want.

Is it easier to turn then a traditional drum? Yes
Will it pull better cores then a drum? I believe in the right conditions.
Will it pull more cores then a drum? Yes most of the time?
Am I happy that I purchased it over a split drive? I am not sure yet.

Wow a not so glowing report for the plugr. It sounds like the BillyGoat I rented is maybe better overall than the plugr.

BravesFan
11-01-2005, 10:54 AM
I have a used 2005 Plugr pl 800 with low hours and still under warranty if anyone is interested. This one has approximately 75 hours on it and the honda motor.

$1800
pm or email to wholesalers at comcast.net

Dennis

turfcobob
11-03-2005, 09:59 AM
OK Listen up: Rolling aerators of the old ryan design (ryan because they were first to come up with the drum forward, tine rear machine) will give you a true 6 holes per sq. ft. They all say 9 per foot the truth is that it is 6 per foot and this is all of them. IF you count 9 there will be a square next to it with 3. This rule has not changed since 1976 when the ryan hit the scene and is still true today. Now, most ag specialists will agree that 9 to 12 holes per foot is acceptable in home lawns. BUT: The more holes the better the job of aeration..Which equals more passes over the lawn with the rolling aerators.

Now welcome in the Recip or pistion type aerators that use vertical drive to get the hole in the ground. Most of them over the years would give more than 6 holes per foot. the old ryan (Rideaire, 1983) would give a nice 14 holes per foot when you could keep it running. That is the problem with recip aerators is "impact damage". Tines slamming into the ground and striking rocks etc tend to break and if they do not break there is damage being passed up the drive train somewhere. There is a price to be paid to get recip aeration. The LA 28 does a good job, when it is running but it breaks alot. Dry ground is another issue with these machines. I have heard sales people say "this machine will even aerate in dry ground" Yes and a 1/4 ton truck can haul a ton but how far..

In my 30 years of experience I have found that time spent running a rolliing aerator over a lawn 3 or 4 times is more productive that sitting in my truck running to the dealer to buy a part to fix my broke machine. Rolling aerators run longer, stay on the ground longer and are generally more productive than piston type machines..Any more questions Turfcobob@aol.com

ronniez71
01-03-2006, 11:20 PM
shady is a wuss!!!!

Shady Brook
01-04-2006, 02:28 AM
ronniez71 WROTE
"shady is a wuss!!!!"

I am sure there is something very constructive in this comment, care to ellaborate?

rodfather
01-04-2006, 07:33 AM
Curious if anyone has tried/purchased the new Plug'r Pro 850 hydro unit. The closest dealer I could find here in NJ told me it wouldnt be available until Spring of 2006...any comments or opinions?

Five Diamond Lawns
01-05-2006, 05:33 PM
The BillyGoat aerators are a piece of junk from a maintenance standpoint.
I have 2 and they spend more time in the shop than out. They keep changing the design and sending out recalls to compensate for the problems and the new design just causes a new problem.
I have yet to try a cam driven aerator and don't think I will be due to how hilly and how wet it is here in the NorthWest.
I would strongly recommend against the BillyGoat though keep in mind I put about 30 hours on my 2 per week.

DUSTYCEDAR
01-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Curious if anyone has tried/purchased the new Plug'r Pro 850 hydro unit. The closest dealer I could find here in NJ told me it wouldnt be available until Spring of 2006...any comments or opinions?
more info on this