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Drew Gemma
09-06-2005, 10:49 PM
Would a f150 4x4 v8 be better than a f250 v10. Just use this for the daily mowing route. Do you think you save any money. Or just go with the bigger truck. Does anybody use a 4x4 f150 v8 what kinda mileage do you get pulling a trailer. mine is a 18ft.

lawnwizards
09-06-2005, 10:51 PM
don't own either but i've heard that 4x4's eat up the gas, plus the insurance premiums are higher.. hope this helps.

kc2006
09-06-2005, 10:56 PM
Insurence is not always higher. I had a 88 s10 and when i bought my 96 f250 4x4 diesel it went down 25 dollars. Something about the f250 has less metal then the s10, it didnt make sense but i dont care.

The v10 is probably going to use more gas, they're pigs. Either way is going to use alot of gas but the v10 will most likely be worse. I know someone will say "a v10 has more power so it takes less to pull" Well they still only get X mpg. I think the few times i've talked to people with them they were getting around 10-12 towing. Buy a diesel, 20mpg towing here :D

Green-Pro
09-06-2005, 11:05 PM
Would a f150 4x4 v8 be better than a f250 v10. Just use this for the daily mowing route. Do you think you save any money. Or just go with the bigger truck. Does anybody use a 4x4 f150 v8 what kinda mileage do you get pulling a trailer. mine is a 18ft.

Don't know the answer to your question but I do know I have really monitored how fast I am driving (18' trailer here also) I've noticed driving at or maybe even 1 to 2 miles below the speed limit has made a huge difference. I have always done the things like tire pressure, timely oil and filters change, grease bearings, etc. I'm telling you the biggest effect on my gas mileage since prices spiked has been the tremendous effort to change driving habits.

I drive about 17 miles to the town I primarily work in about 12 @ 55 mph and 5 @ 60 mph (interstate) I got fed up with bungholes seeing a truck pulling a trailer and trying to draft me so I figured I would slow down a bit, you would not believe some folks actually would follow me @ 45 freakin mph just to draft!!! I just figured if you don't mind being late and I have to pay for part of your gas to we will drive nice & slow.

Anyway sorry to get off topic but driving habits are very difficult to change IMHO but if you can do it they will display a noticeable difference in mpg.

-Geoff

South Florida Lawns
09-06-2005, 11:06 PM
I don't know on a ford but for dodges they pull just a hard as a diesel but drink fuel at an alarming rate. I would try to go with a diesel even though it costs more, it is worth it in the long run. Also how long do you plan to keep your truck? My buddy has an old Cummins engine that has been in three different trucks, it simply will not die. He figures its close to 600,000 miles on the engine. Plus the new f150's 5.4 rated at 300hp sure doesn't feel that strong to me, I test drove it and it was a let down.

RedWingsDet
09-06-2005, 11:08 PM
if your going to plow get the 250... either way i would get the 250 though.

kc2006
09-06-2005, 11:12 PM
I got fed up with bungholes seeing a truck pulling a trailer and trying to draft me so I figured I would slow down a bit, you would not believe some folks actually would follow me @ 45 freakin mph just to draft!!! I just figured if you don't mind being late and I have to pay for part of your gas to we will drive nice & slow.


I thought I was the only idiot to ever try drafting on the freeway! haha. It didn't work, I sat behind a big rig cruising at almost 65 in just my truck and didn't see much fuel gains from it. I think it works mainly at high speeds like nascar :rolleyes: boy i get bored easy and try stupid stuff to stay busy.

Gilla Gorilla
09-06-2005, 11:24 PM
When pulling my 12 ft tandem axle trailer with a 36 Metro HP and a 60" Lazer behind a 2003 F150 with a 5.4 with 3.55 gears I was averaging between 8.5 and 9.5 mpg with the trailer hooked up. I generally stopped to fill up around 225 miles to a tank in the F150 and it had a 30 gallon tank with the longbed.
Now I have got a 2002 F350 Dually with 7.3 PSD and get between 10.5 mpg and 13 If I can manage to baby the heck out of it and fill up around 375 to 400 miles to a tank with a 38 gallon tank.

Smalltimer1
09-07-2005, 12:01 AM
Plus the new f150's 5.4 rated at 300hp sure doesn't feel that strong to me, I test drove it and it was a let down.

The new F-150 also weighs approximately 500-700lbs. more than the last generation, which takes away the 'seat of the pants' feeling that 300hp would have in a lighter truck.

Smalltimer1
09-07-2005, 12:03 AM
When pulling my 12 ft tandem axle trailer with a 36 Metro HP and a 60" Lazer behind a 2003 F150 with a 5.4 with 3.55 gears I was averaging between 8.5 and 9.5 mpg with the trailer hooked up. I generally stopped to fill up around 225 miles to a tank in the F150 and it had a 30 gallon tank with the longbed.
Now I have got a 2002 F350 Dually with 7.3 PSD and get between 10.5 mpg and 13 If I can manage to baby the heck out of it and fill up around 375 to 400 miles to a tank with a 38 gallon tank.

Last fill up I had was 508.5 miles on 30 gallons which equated to 16.95mpg in my '04 PSD.

Have you checked your fuel filters and air filter lately? Those would have a profound effect on your mileage.

DBL
09-07-2005, 04:20 PM
have the guy selling the v10 point you to the nearest gas station

cash_money
09-07-2005, 05:00 PM
The v10 will get better than the v8 cause the v10 has smaller cylinders than the v10. the v10 was ment to hual heavy loads and out ouy haul the v8 and have better feul milage. i know people my say the v10 is a gas hog thats just because the v 10 was ment to haul not drive around the city towing nothing. my dads company uses the v10 to tow 20ft-25ft draft trailers loaded from wall to wall with kegs and the v10 gets better mpg the v8 truck they have driven with both with heavy foot.

Smalltimer1
09-07-2005, 06:48 PM
The v10 will get better than the v8 cause the v10 has smaller cylinders than the v10. the v10 was ment to hual heavy loads and out ouy haul the v8 and have better feul milage. i know people my say the v10 is a gas hog thats just because the v 10 was ment to haul not drive around the city towing nothing. my dads company uses the v10 to tow 20ft-25ft draft trailers loaded from wall to wall with kegs and the v10 gets better mpg the v8 truck they have driven with both with heavy foot.

The Triton 5.4 and 6.8L engines are modulars, therefore they have the same bore and stroke, 3.55"x4.16". The 6.8 just has 2 more cylinders.

lawnmaniac883
09-07-2005, 08:12 PM
IMO you should just go with the diesel. Both gassers will be hogs no matter which way you look at it. A diesel will get better mileage, last longer, and currently diesel is ~15 cents under regular...I THINK the v10 needs premium.

Drew Gemma
09-07-2005, 10:32 PM
you missing the qyestion a big engine in a f150 is it worth it or just go with the 250. smaller truck with big engine get better mileage than bigger truck smaller engine. This is just for mowing. Pulling 6x10 x 18 long. I see a lot of guys using half tons to pull mowing crew latley does it save money and will the truck hold up?

lawnmaniac883
09-07-2005, 10:51 PM
:waving: OOOOk, in that case go with the 250, bigger brakes which will be needed for stop and go towing conditions with a trailer, and beefier suspension, also a 250 should offer a better payload. Pulling with half tons is ok if you are really familiar with replacing brake pads :waving:

Smalltimer1
09-07-2005, 11:19 PM
you missing the qyestion a big engine in a f150 is it worth it or just go with the 250. smaller truck with big engine get better mileage than bigger truck smaller engine. This is just for mowing. Pulling 6x10 x 18 long. I see a lot of guys using half tons to pull mowing crew latley does it save money and will the truck hold up?

If you have to run a F-250/350 with the 5.4 make damn sure you have the 4.10 or 4.30 rear end. The 3.73 is a dog.

The V-10 does fine with the 3.73, but if you need the equivalent pulling power of the diesel, then you will need to run the 4.30's. I believe that breaks down to 10 more rwhp than the diesel and 25ft./lb. less torque, again at the rear wheels with the V-10/4.30 setup, also the 6 spd tends to be better suited to the gas engines as well, but for an automatic the TS is a great improvement over what was previously offered behind them.

GTLC
09-08-2005, 06:36 PM
We've used the 4.6 Liter V8 and it isn't that great for towing. We tow a 10' tandem dump trailer with 1 cord firewood I believe weighs 5-6k pounds and can't handle pulling that kind of load even with a light foot. Get the 5.4 if you get the F-150.

Itsgottobegreen
09-09-2005, 01:51 AM
I have a F-150 2wd 4.6 V8. And I will say is get a F-250. Period. And if you want to plow snow, the F-250 will hold up way better.

lawnmaniac883
09-09-2005, 11:16 PM
4.30's are pretty tall gears imo. If you are ever gonna put highway miles on this rig, go with 4.10's. I will agree with smalltimer to stay away from the 3.73's

Drew Gemma
09-10-2005, 12:02 AM
well I am looking for a gaser for now! Chevy or Ford 2500. All I really need is 6sp manual transmission, ac, extra cab long bed anything else would be a bonus. I am gonna put a dumper of some sort into the bed just to unload grass and small mulch jobs. Cause we also just found a dump trailer to use on our landscaping jobs and big mulch jobs. Any tips of what to stay away from would be great! Thanks guys yourt input really helps.