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SpudsM15
09-14-2005, 09:51 AM
1 Spiral,3 Gold thread cypress, 1:hinoki cypress, 3 korean boxwoods, 1 Crimson jap maple,4-5 rodi's, 1 blue spruce,6 rug junipers, 4 boulders,5 spotlights,transformer,wire, 2ton 1"-2" river, 9 yds topsoil, 2 yds black dye mulch. Total bed area is around 250-300 sq,ft I assume 5 yds soil for the beds rest for lawn rennovation.
Whats your bid??? Labor and material cost.

SpudsM15
09-14-2005, 09:54 AM
I'm sorry wrong forum...

PROCUT1
09-14-2005, 09:57 AM
What design program is that?

SpudsM15
09-14-2005, 10:02 AM
drafix-pro landscape....Still don't know what the hec I'm doing on it... Good thing I took some auto-cad classes when I was a engineering major. Or else I would be alot farther behind on learning...

SpudsM15
09-14-2005, 06:12 PM
Moderator please move to landscaping forum. Thanks...

treedoc1
09-14-2005, 06:29 PM
What size plant material are you spec'ing for the job
what size transformer, how many feet of wire, what quality of light fixtures

a little more info needed

SpudsM15
09-15-2005, 11:24 AM
We used the frog lights web page for the pricing... As We have never ventured into a totally new install of lights.
Was going to go with fp-300:$125, Spotlights@$29 per, I figured about 70' of wire. Just buy a 100' spool...
As for plants I Bid for the smaller spirals: about $250. Small Crimson:$300 but informed cust. that it very hard to find a nice one at that price as they may cost 300-600... Hinoki: will cost around $150. 3 Gold thred:75, 3 boxwoods 150, 4 rodi's 180, 1 blue spruce 4' $150, 6 rug junipers:90.00 4 boulders 280.00, 2 tons river 74, 2 yds mulch 70, 9yds soil 5 for scape 4 for lawn 369 Del charges around 75 seed 70,starter mulch 45, starter fert 20.
That brings total mats to $2633.00 add tax 2790.98
I bid the job total cost @ 4655.98
$240 to design and del everything
$750 to clean out area and install bed, stone, mulch
$180 install lights
$335 to plant and install boulders
$360 for lawn labor
Total labor:1865
I don't know I've used my bidding process on a few smaller landscapes and it seems to work well as I finish just ontime on the 5-or 6 we've done this year

Coffeecraver
09-16-2005, 05:25 AM
The Blue Spruce is much too close to the house
Follow this link.

http://www.fw.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/picts/ppungensform.jpg

http://www.fw.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=109


Form: A medium to large tree with pyramidal form reaching up to 80 feet tall.

Wrong Tree in the wrong Place

Coffeecraver
09-16-2005, 06:07 AM
3 Gold thred: Your Price 75.00 **** my price (135.00 -- 15-18"
3 boxwoods """"""""""" 150.00 **** """""""""" (135.00-- 3 gal
4 rodi's """""""""" 180.00 **** """""""""" ( 275.00-- 18-24"
1 blue spruce 4' """""""" 150.00 ** """"""""" ( 450.00--- 5'
6 rug junipers: """"""" 90.00 **** """"""""" ( 187.50--- 3 gal

:)

stumper1620
09-16-2005, 08:02 AM
The Blue Spruce is much too close to the house
Follow this link.

http://www.fw.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/picts/ppungensform.jpg

http://www.fw.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=109


Form: A medium to large tree with pyramidal form reaching up to 80 feet tall.

Wrong Tree in the wrong Place
I didn't notice that until you point it out, way too close.
thats a middle of the yard tree.
I had one of them in my front yard until a nieghbors shed broke the top 10' out of it, big storm in 98 shed flew over from 200' away hit the tree, busted the top out then fell down the one side breaking all the branches all the way down, that tree was about 30' tall easy 10 to 15' across.

SpudsM15
09-16-2005, 10:17 AM
I normally plan my scapes out with the future in mind but the cust wanted one of those trees. It would be planted about 8' from the house so they would get a few years outta it. before it causes problems...
How about my labor cost guys is that inline?

olderthandirt
09-16-2005, 10:25 AM
How about my labor cost guys is that inline?

Whats your operating cost and how much profit do you need to make hr. , day, wk. ? Only you can figure your labor cost. It don't matter if there inline with others, your cost probably are not

Guthrie&Co
09-16-2005, 11:23 PM
how about switching some color around to draw the eye away from the windows and to the door?

SpudsM15
09-18-2005, 11:36 AM
The problem with this house is on the right side the property line is about 5' from the wall. THere is some mowing on the side that I cann't block access to. Definatly needs some work on making the design more appealling...
Olderthandirt: I'm trying to figure out if my total price is in the ball park for something like this. I seem to have a hard time selling these kind of installs I feel that I over bid the jobs.... But, to many times in the past I have underbid and taken pay cuts

SpudsM15
09-18-2005, 11:38 AM
I guess you can say I am not comfortable going to a customers house and dropping a 5k figure and feeling confident it is the right price for the job.

Gilla Gorilla
09-18-2005, 09:59 PM
As far as pricing goes your price does not seem to high. But are you going to guaruntee the plants? If so how long, because that should be reflected in your pricing for those plants. Also are you getting them wholesale?

I hope you dont mind. I took your pic and tweaked the grass pattern out of Pro Landscape. I know that you do not plant on redoing the grass in between the street and sidewalk but it just looks a TON better when you put new grass in every area that has existing grass. As long as the customer knows that you are not touching the front strip then you should be fine. I think it just helps close the deal easier, they seem to get all excited when it looks completely redone and they might also want you to redo the front strip once they see how everything would look together. I personally think that the darker number 8 grass looks the best on this program but you use what you think looks best.

As far as for the blue spruce have you thought about seeing if they would let you put something like a Nellie Stevens Holly in there. It will still get 20 or so feet tall but nothing like the blue spruce.

Oh yeah when you say that you are not confident about asking the customer to drop 5K on their front landscape did you not ask them if they had a number or budget in mind? I find that in the past before I started asking this that it took me much longer on putting together a bid because I was trying to size up what kind of person they might be about spending money on their yard or landscape and it ended up hurting me on a couple bids. Just ask up front and then everyone knows what they are expecting.