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dcplace2004
09-21-2005, 12:30 PM
This is an email sent to me from Shindaiwa...my request for info from Shindaiwa was answered within hours--redmax has NEVER responded to my emails--NEVER! And I have sent them at least 20 emails...Stihl responds quickly also...ok, here is the email:

Hello,
Thank you for contacting Shindaiwa. Our new EB8510 blower which will
be on the market soon, will not only compete with the Redmax unit, it
will literally (no pun intended) blow it away. It is lighter, quieter,
has more CFM's, has more air speed, and is more economical. Please
contact the Distributor for your state because Shindaiwa has sent
sample
units to the Distributor Sales Reps just this week! I hope this
information help. EOM...
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Dcplace again...we shall see, as cfm can be deceiving as we can see with the redmax 8000 and stihl br600...impeller and tube design and Bernoulli's Principle http://home.earthlink.net/~mmc1919/venturi.html play a big role in volume, air speed, etc...I am glad I am waiting and am happy with my purchase of the BR600...it is a well-rounded blower...I like the redmax's power, but nothing else about it or its pathetic company or (some) dealers...we shall see...peace...

kc2006
09-21-2005, 02:52 PM
Is it a 2 stroke or 4 stroke hybrid design? do you know?

dcplace2004
09-21-2005, 04:09 PM
I am curious about the cfm at the pipe and the tube design...I am figuring the tube design is like the redmax 8000, not the BR600...

dcplace2004
09-21-2005, 11:53 PM
and I don't think I even want to mess with the Shindy dealers here either...pretty much like the redmax dealers here...That place of orange and white are starting to pizz me off too with their ba$tard child of a BP blower I got two weeks ago...I am eating crow with the lemon I bought from them...My BP has spent more time in the shop than blowing, that is for sure...

wacamaster
09-21-2005, 11:58 PM
Sounds nice.. Shindy BY FAR MAKES THE BEST DAMN WHACKERS! I've liked my RedMax blowers but have not been happy with the whippers. Maybe I'm only happy with the blowers because I haven't experienced a nice Shindy blower.

kc2006
09-22-2005, 02:14 PM
That place of orange and white are starting to pizz me off too with their ba$tard child of a BP blower I got two weeks ago...I am eating crow with the lemon I bought from them...My BP has spent more time in the shop than blowing, that is for sure...

Are we referring to stihl? What blower?

bondman35a
09-22-2005, 04:58 PM
i think because the model number is 8510 it will be one of those four mixes. I have a T2500 trimmer, and I think it is great, A little heavy, But great. Too bad I just bought a 8000 but, I think I might have to try this 8510 out.

newz7151
09-23-2005, 12:52 AM
not sure if this site competes with Lawnsite or not, but by googling EB8510, I found this info with a picture.
Ok, after looking at that site for a minute more, it appears it would be a competing site (i thought it was a magazine site or something at first though)

But anyway, here is a copy paste of the info.

If you want to see a picture, do a google search on "EB8510"

Shindaiwa EB8510 Backpack Blower

Big, bad and blue, Shindaiwa's new EB8510 features a 79.7-cc displacement and 4.3-horsepower (3.2 kW) at 7,500 rpm, generating a 203-mph air speed and 952-cfm air volume. It also features a chrome-plated cylinder with 2-ring piston design, a durable 2-staged air filter system with extra-large surface area, and excellent fuel economy versus the equivalent 2-stroke. With the EB8510, it's business as usual with 50:1 mix, so no dipstick is needed.

SHINDAIWA INC. / 800-521-7733

Richard Martin
09-23-2005, 03:30 AM
Those are nice numbers. The 203 mph air speed is right in line with the Redmax (203) and a hair above the Stihl (201). The 952 cfm velocity is above the Redmax (943) but well below the Stihl (1012). I'd like to know what it weighs because it's going to be hard to beat Stihl's 20.9 pounds.

newz7151
09-23-2005, 09:19 AM
[QUOTE=Richard Martin]Those are nice numbers. The 952 cfm velocity is above the Redmax (943) but well below the Stihl (1012). QUOTE]

Actually, we'll have to wait and find out if the 952cfm is with or without tubes. If it's WITH tubes, then it's well ABOVE the Stihl (712).

Lawn Masters
09-23-2005, 10:02 AM
I simply MUST try one of these out. the blue on it almost looks black, and I LOVE that.

Richard Martin
09-23-2005, 01:11 PM
Actually, we'll have to wait and find out if the 952cfm is with or without tubes. If it's WITH tubes, then it's well ABOVE the Stihl (712).

I believe the blower would be useless if it was 952 cfm with the tubes. I do have the Stihl BR 600 and this blower will actually try to turn you sideways at full throttle. I believe of if it had 240 more cfm then it would wear you out or just plain spin you around. And no, I'm not kidding.

nitrotim
09-23-2005, 03:16 PM
One of my LCO friends just bought one. Its the current 4 mix technology and it does blow strong. I don't think its stronger than my eb640 but it feels a little lighter.

dcplace2004
09-24-2005, 12:20 AM
It is just too new...

dcplace2004
09-24-2005, 02:04 AM
and have this to say...back to square one with the blowers...Tube design is very, VERY important as it relates Bernoulli's Principle http://home.earthlink.net/~mmc1919/venturi.html

even with more mph and cfm (I don't think it is over 900 at the tube)...it has to have a big tube opening have greater area coverage...redmax 8K has 2.8 inches...stihl 600 has 2.75 inches...redmax is a gradual taper to the end...stihl has a straight taper and last second bullet taper design...if that shindy has a smaller opening than the red and the stihl then it cannot compete...it will be too powerful at a small point...if it has a big opening over 2.8 inches, say 3 plus inches, over 900 cfm a the tube and 203 mph then maybe we have something to look at...I like the Stihl BR600 (not mine though--it is a lemon) but want something in the future that even I can barely control cause of the power...

nitrotim
09-24-2005, 02:47 PM
and have this to say...back to square one with the blowers...Tube design is very, VERY important as it relates Bernoulli's Principle http://home.earthlink.net/~mmc1919/venturi.html

even with more mph and cfm (I don't think it is over 900 at the tube)...it has to have a big tube opening have greater area coverage...redmax 8K has 2.8 inches...stihl 600 has 2.75 inches...redmax is a gradual taper to the end...stihl has a straight taper and last second bullet taper design...if that shindy has a smaller opening than the red and the stihl then it cannot compete...it will be too powerful at a small point...if it has a big opening over 2.8 inches, say 3 plus inches, over 900 cfm a the tube and 203 mph then maybe we have something to look at...I like the Stihl BR600 (not mine though--it is a lemon) but want something in the future that even I can barely control cause of the power...

You are probably right I noticed on friends new SHIN that the tube is shorter than on my 630 and at this length the opening has a bigger circumfrence.