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nobagger
09-21-2005, 01:50 PM
I recently sat down with a sales rep from TrueGreen Chem-lawn because I have about 200 plus properties that need fert. and weed control for next year. I just wanted them to bid the fert. They don't mow or landscape so I figured whats the big deal? I didnt want to sub out from another lawn care company in fear of them trying to steal my customers. Well lawn aerations are beginning next week and TWO of my customers have called asking me to lower my price to TG's price or they will go with them. The one lawn is aprox.7ksq ft. and has a bunch of trees and shrubs to go around and the rear yard is on a sloping hill to boot. My price was $85.00 their price $60.00. The second customer has roughly 7-8k sq ft and pretty flat and not much to go around, my price was I think $75.00, their price, $60.00. WTF! So I called the sales rep. back and basically said ya know those bids you were going to do for me? Ya might as well go wipe your A$$ with them cause I'm through with you guys. He said well we didnt know they were your customers. I said I dont care its what your doing is the thing that bothers me. Ive had 2 calls from his manager but I have yet to return them. :realmad: :realmad:

Runner
09-21-2005, 03:45 PM
So because some kid that's sitting in a cubicle sells a couple of aeration jobs (and has NO idea who you are or that you even KNOW these people), you're telling them to take a hike? I think that's the wrong reason, but it's the RIGHT thing to do. You'd be making a BIG mistake having them put their JUNK on your lawns. What are trying to accomplish? Weak unhealthy lawns? Grass that is so nitrogen stressed that it just lays down like a well trained dog? If that's the case, then you're on the right track.

Maitland Man
09-21-2005, 05:33 PM
......Tru-green sucks!!

Dennis

jt5019
09-21-2005, 06:10 PM
Tru-green has even started mowing around here....only seen them at commercial jobs and some apt complexes.

dvmcmrhp52
09-21-2005, 06:19 PM
Find someone local who only does fert and use them. Stay AWAY from truebrown.

olderthandirt
09-21-2005, 06:22 PM
Find someone local who only does fert and use them. Stay AWAY from truebrown.

Yep with 200 account to offer you should have no trouble getting some one thats good AND will give you a little $$ for the referrals

Hank Reardon
09-21-2005, 06:25 PM
Tru-green has even started mowing around here....only seen them at commercial jobs and some apt complexes.

They've been around here for some time now. I just started (today) a commercial property who fired them.

gman44
09-21-2005, 06:27 PM
I use a local independent co. to put down chemicals ....We are very clear on were the line is drawn . No stepping on toes .

nobagger
09-21-2005, 06:53 PM
So because some kid that's sitting in a cubicle sells a couple of aeration jobs (and has NO idea who you are or that you even KNOW these people), you're telling them to take a hike? I think that's the wrong reason, but it's the RIGHT thing to do. You'd be making a BIG mistake having them put their JUNK on your lawns. What are trying to accomplish? Weak unhealthy lawns? Grass that is so nitrogen stressed that it just lays down like a well trained dog? If that's the case, then you're on the right track.
No Runner, the point was that they knew that someone (me) was already doing it they should have kept thier mouth shut and just said ok. Not go on and try to under bid someone.

dcplace2004
09-21-2005, 06:54 PM
what the charge is--within reason...

BSDeality
09-21-2005, 07:58 PM
them bidding on a job is just part of business, you have to sell your customers the idea that you know the in's and outs of their property and you will do a better job (double pass)

BTW, TruPOOP takes care of UCONN, and i use the term 'care' very loosely.

Runner
09-21-2005, 09:05 PM
No Runner, the point was that they knew that someone (me) was already doing it they should have kept thier mouth shut and just said ok. Not go on and try to under bid someone.

So you're convinced that out of the dozens and dozens of sales people they have to do these aeration telemarketing calls at your location, the one that made these calls is the one you spoke to - to set up your fert. program? Other than that, it is just calling on their customers. Once these people go onto their list, TG will sell them everything under the sun - most of which, they don't need or never will (grub and insect controls, etc.)

nobagger
09-21-2005, 09:08 PM
So you're convinced that out of the dozens and dozens of sales people they have to do these aeration telemarketing calls at your location, the one that made these calls is the one you spoke to - to set up your fert. program? Other than that, it is just calling on their customers. Once these people go onto their list, TG will sell them everything under the sun - most of which, they don't need or never will (grub and insect controls, etc.)
NO, it was the nitwhit spraying who tried to sell her the aeration job not a sales rep sitting in a cubicle.

topsites
09-21-2005, 09:21 PM
them bidding on a job is just part of business, you have to sell your customers the idea that you know the in's and outs of their property and you will do a better job (double pass)

BTW, TruPOOP takes care of UCONN, and i use the term 'care' very loosely.

Oh man PLEASE don't start breeding the double-aeration monster with customers AHHHH !!!
I hate it when they come around asking me about this, half the time they want 'criss-cross' aeration OMG do NOT breed this monster PLEASE!

Sir, I got enough of a time with my Classen Ta-26, that machine takes everything I got and I ain't in no mood to get fancy and/or do stupid designs with a straight-axle splined FULL-time forward NO power-steering red bull.

As for me, I think double OR criss-cross aeration is a waste of time and money. You'd be better off SPLITTING it into ONE aeration in the fall and ONE in the spring because you'll get much better results but that's just me... :)

FINN
09-21-2005, 09:31 PM
nobagger

I sent you a private message.

topsites
09-21-2005, 09:33 PM
Personally I have NO problem with Chemlawn although we BOTH do aeration/fert/etc, they are specialists in their field while my true specialty is grass-cutting (aeration is only a small part of it all). Chemlawn does what they do best, and they do it exxxtremely well.
I find Chemlawns employees to be a highly respectful group as a whole and have always enjoyed an excellent relationship with them as we BOTH like to compliment each other's work TO our customers.
Meanwhile, we click together so fine because BOTH our recommended SET cutting height is 3 inches, 3 inches is how I ALWAYS cut grass and 3 inches is what Chemlawn ALWAYS insists upon, things could not be better.
However, they have their customers and I have mine. Should it happen that my grass customer also happens to be their chem customer, I accept this without further ado and am glad I have such a competent corporation tending to the chem needs of MY grass customer.

Far as making deals with Chemlawn, they are a big national corporation and I'm a teenie tiny company so I have NO business meddling in the affairs of a large pack of sinewy wolves toughened by years of razor-sharp experiences beyond my wildest dreams, lest they swallow me alive.

However, should anyone think of doing business with large corporations, I would highly recommend the following article:
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/0,4621,300932,00.html

dcondon
09-21-2005, 09:36 PM
Find someone local who only does fert and use them. Stay AWAY from truebrown.


Just what you say!!!!!! :)

nobagger
09-23-2005, 08:27 PM
Personally I have NO problem with Chemlawn although we BOTH do aeration/fert/etc, they are specialists in their field while my true specialty is grass-cutting (aeration is only a small part of it all). Chemlawn does what they do best, and they do it exxxtremely well.
I find Chemlawns employees to be a highly respectful group as a whole and have always enjoyed an excellent relationship with them as we BOTH like to compliment each other's work TO our customers.
Meanwhile, we click together so fine because BOTH our recommended SET cutting height is 3 inches, 3 inches is how I ALWAYS cut grass and 3 inches is what Chemlawn ALWAYS insists upon, things could not be better.
However, they have their customers and I have mine. Should it happen that my grass customer also happens to be their chem customer, I accept this without further ado and am glad I have such a competent corporation tending to the chem needs of MY grass customer.

Far as making deals with Chemlawn, they are a big national corporation and I'm a teenie tiny company so I have NO business meddling in the affairs of a large pack of sinewy wolves toughened by years of razor-sharp experiences beyond my wildest dreams, lest they swallow me alive.

However, should anyone think of doing business with large corporations, I would highly recommend the following article:
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/0,4621,300932,00.html
So your telling me if you gave one of your customers a bid for x-amount to aerate and your true green buddies gave them another price after they knew your customer already had a company, (you) doing it that wouldn't pi$$ you off? You will stay a "teenie tiny" business with that attitude! Good luck ;)

Evergreenpros
09-23-2005, 11:18 PM
Tru-green has even started mowing around here....only seen them at commercial jobs and some apt complexes.


We have Tru-Green Landcare.

brinlee lawn
09-24-2005, 06:21 AM
yeah we have truegreen landcare here also.