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Gatewayuser
10-23-2005, 10:59 PM
Is this a 2500HD it does not say HD?

Gatewayuser
10-23-2005, 11:10 PM
By the way its a 2000 and it comes with a snow plow, AT, FM-AM, 6.0lt V8 rino liner, 4x4 and has 114,000 miles price is $13,000. Is this a good or bad deal and/or truck?

jimslawns
10-23-2005, 11:27 PM
Generally if it doesn't say HD it isn't, the 2500HD emblem is one piece. Look at the GVW of the truck it will be a lesser amount than an HD. I think my 2500 HD is 9000 something, I think that one will be lower.

Gatewayuser
10-23-2005, 11:35 PM
Its 8600GVW on this truck and its an LS. How much of a problem is this.

AL Inc
10-23-2005, 11:39 PM
I have an HD, the GVW is 9200 lbs, so that is a 2500.

Jordan River
10-24-2005, 01:32 AM
Check KBB.COM for the value. Look under trade-in, and put it in fair condition. Then take 1000 off that price. That's what you should pay. 13G seems high for a five yr old truck like that one. Remember, dealers cover up scratches in the body by air-brushing paint. Eventually, the air-brush wears off and the scratches show up again.

stoneseller
10-24-2005, 05:46 AM
IIRC the 2500hd series began production for the 2001 model year.
Prior to the HD series, GM offered 2 different 3/4 ton packages. The standard 2500 series had a gvw of 7200 lbs. The heavier 2500 package was designated as a 'C6P' package, which has a GVW of 8600 lbs.. C6P's had the heavier transmission, heavier rears, bigger hubs & brakes, heavier frame, and probably some other stuff I'm not listing.

kc2006
10-24-2005, 11:34 AM
almost looks like the front end is sagging, at first I thought it was 2wd then I saw the 4x4 emblem.

13 seems high to me, I'd give 9 maybe 10 for that amount of mileage.

Jpocket
10-24-2005, 10:00 PM
I'd say run FAST, waaaay to many miles for that kind of money, somebody drove the hell outta that truck. Trucks like that aren't worth much to me by the time your done paying for ot you'll be rebuilding the trans, then motor.

FIRESCOOBY
10-27-2005, 05:47 PM
I'd say run FAST, waaaay to many miles for that kind of money, somebody drove the hell outta that truck. Trucks like that aren't worth much to me by the time your done paying for ot you'll be rebuilding the trans, then motor.

What are you talking about??? High miles? If that person bought it in 2000 (early) it works out to 22,800 miles/year. If he bought it in say August 1999, it works out to 21,000 miles/year. THAT is NOT high miles!!

Looks like a nice truck. Check for history and maintenance records. Also, the 6.0 has been known for piston slap, just have it checked out.

420 HonDeere
10-27-2005, 06:24 PM
A Chevy 2500 with 6 lug axles is basically an heavy 1500. To get a real 2500 look for 8 lug axles.

pottstim
10-27-2005, 06:36 PM
A Chevy 2500 with 6 lug axles is basically an heavy 1500. To get a real 2500 look for 8 lug axles.

That truck he posted a picture of is an 8 lug even though it is not an HD. GM quit producing the 7200 GVW 6 lug 2500 in 1998. On the NBS trucks the 2500 and 2500 HD trucks are both 8 lug, but the HD has a full floating rear axle. The 2500 uses the semi-floating 9.5" rear, which is on the truck in the picture above.

RedWingsDet
10-27-2005, 07:40 PM
its a 2500 not an hd. Look at the lugs, 1/2tons have 6 lugs, 3/4+ have 8+ lugs.
Its to much money for the miles though

Gatewayuser
10-28-2005, 01:01 AM
Thanks to everyone for your answers that truck sold yesterday, and tonight I bought a 2001 Ford F-350 4X4 its a very awesome truck.

Jpocket
10-29-2005, 08:03 AM
What are you talking about??? High miles? If that person bought it in 2000 (early) it works out to 22,800 miles/year. If he bought it in say August 1999, it works out to 21,000 miles/year. THAT is NOT high miles!!

Looks like a nice truck. Check for history and maintenance records. Also, the 6.0 has been known for piston slap, just have it checked out.

I don't care if the truck is a 2004 100,000 + miles is still just that 100,000 miles. In my book that is always alot. Mybe you are but im not into paying for a truck with 140,000 miles a year later. Each to his own:D

South Florida Lawns
11-01-2005, 02:48 PM
That's a 2500 3/4 ton 4x4 with the 6.0 gen III small block V8. If it said 2500HD it would still be a 3/4 ton but the engine would either be the 8.1L or the Duramax diesel.

stoneseller
11-01-2005, 05:52 PM
That's a 2500 3/4 ton 4x4 with the 6.0 gen III small block V8. If it said 2500HD it would still be a 3/4 ton but the engine would either be the 8.1L or the Duramax diesel.

No.
My 2001 2500HD (9200 gvw) had a 6.0
My 1998 2500 C6P package had a 6.0, but only an 8600 gvw. The trans was the 400 turbhydramatic.
The "HD" came along (2001 models) and the GVW jumped up 400 lbs, but engine options remained the basically the same. The 6.0 engine in the HD is matched with a 400 THydro trans.

Now the Alison transmission, that is only available in HD's with the 8.1 gasser or the Duramax

hosejockey2002
11-01-2005, 08:03 PM
The 6.0 engine in the HD is matched with a 400 THydro trans.

I don't think GM has used the Turbo 400 transmission in many years, at least not in pickups. The 6.0 sits in front of a 4L80E.

pottstim
11-01-2005, 11:28 PM
If I remember correctly, the last year for the Turbo 400 (also called 3L80) was the 1990 model year. The 4L80-E made it's debut in 1991. Someone mentioned above that their '98 K-2500 old body style truck had a 6 Liter V8. That's impossible. It had to have been a 5.7L 350. The 6.0 was not available until '99 in the 2500 8600 GVW new body style trucks. Remember, the OBS trucks continued on in the '99 and '00 model years for the 2500 HD and 3500. Only the 1500 series and 2500 LD (8600) debuted with the new body style in '99. The 2500 HD and 3500 new body style trucks didn't come along until 2001. In 2001 and today's 2006 trucks, the 6.0 is the standard engine, not the 8.1 big block or the Duramax Diesel. Hope this helps.

stoneseller
11-02-2005, 05:58 AM
I don't think GM has used the Turbo 400 transmission in many years, at least not in pickups. The 6.0 sits in front of a 4L80E.

OOPS, my ignorance is shining through.

stoneseller
11-02-2005, 06:02 AM
I wish maunfacturers would go back to describing engine sizes in cubic inches. I liked it better when a GM small block engine was a 265, 283, 327 or 350.

South Florida Lawns
11-02-2005, 09:20 PM
Can anyone figure out the Chevy 1500HD it had 3/4 axles but I don't remember if it was rated as a 3/4 ton truck or just a beefed up 1/2 ton. I don't believe they even make them anymore.

hosejockey2002
11-03-2005, 01:10 AM
The 1500 HD has a GWVR of 8,600. Any more, you have to ignore the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, 150, 2500, etc. designators because they are all meaningless marketing BS. The only things that matter when it comes to hauling are 1) the trucks rated gross weight, and 2) what the truck weighs empty. Subtract (2) from (1), and that's how much weight the truck can carry without exceeding the manufacturer's rating. Some examples of all this confusing BS:

My old '84 Chevy C20 ("3/4 ton") has a gross weight of 7,200 but because it only weighs 4,400 empty it can carry nearly a ton and a half.

My new '05 Chevy 2500 HD (also a "3/4 ton") has a gross weight of 9,200 and can carry nearly 4,000 lbs.

A Ford F150 (a "1/2 ton") is available with an 8,200 lb. GVWR package which gives it a payload of nearly 3,000 pounds, about the same as an F250 super duty.

Up to the mid '90s, an F350 crew cab diesel ("1 ton") with single rear wheels had a gross weight of only 9,000 pounds, while a 2006 F250 crew cab diesel ("3/4 ton") has a gross weight of up to 10,100 lbs.

My brother in law's '03 Dodge Cummins 2500 has a gross weight of 8,800, but with an empty weight of close to 7,000 pounds it carries less weight than any of the aforementioned trucks. Now, before I get flamed, I am only talking about MANUFACTURER RATINGS. My BIL's Dodge can easily haul twice what it's rated for, and it doesn't seem to hurt it a bit, while my old Chevy squats like an old woman when it's loaded anywhere near it's rated max. My point to all this, like I said before, is that the "1/2 ton, 3/4 ton", designators are now meaningless.

justanotherlawnguy
11-05-2005, 01:17 AM
Can anyone figure out the Chevy 1500HD it had 3/4 axles but I don't remember if it was rated as a 3/4 ton truck or just a beefed up 1/2 ton. I don't believe they even make them anymore.
I have a 2002 1500hd, it is pretty much a 2500hd. I was told in 2002, they did not make a crew cab 2500hd, which makes sense, becuase that is what I was looking for but only ever found a reg cab or ext cab, never a crew cab.
If you look at the numbers comparing the 1500hd and 2500hd, they are identical GCWR is 16000 (of course with the 8.1 or diesel, there is no comparison).
THe 2500hd has higher gvwr
The 1500hd has higher trailering rating
In the end the numbers come out the same...
the 1500hd has the same 8 lug, suspension, and brakes as the 2500.
Yes, they still offer the 1500hd

pottstim
11-05-2005, 04:39 PM
I have a 2002 1500hd, it is pretty much a 2500hd. I was told in 2002, they did not make a crew cab 2500hd, which makes sense, becuase that is what I was looking for but only ever found a reg cab or ext cab, never a crew cab.
If you look at the numbers comparing the 1500hd and 2500hd, they are identical GCWR is 16000 (of course with the 8.1 or diesel, there is no comparison).
THe 2500hd has higher gvwr
The 1500hd has higher trailering rating
In the end the numbers come out the same...
the 1500hd has the same 8 lug, suspension, and brakes as the 2500.
Yes, they still offer the 1500hd

The 2500 and the 1500HD are the same exact chassis and have an 8600 GVW rating. The 6.0 L gasser is the only engine available in these trucks. They both use the 9.5" semi floating rear axle. The 2500HD has the 10.5" full floating rear with the 6.0 L gasser and the 11.5" full floater with the Diesel and 8.1 Big Block gasser. On the 2500HD you also get a heavier frame. If you ever get a chance to look under each truck, you will see a difference, especially the area of the frame under the bed of the truck. You could also get a crew cab in the 2500HD in 2002. Matter of fact you could get one when the HD body style was introduced in 2001.

YardPro
11-22-2005, 07:50 PM
that IS alot of miles for that truck

average is less than 15K per year... also if it has a plow kit it was worked... 23K/year and plowing........run run away

LB1234
11-22-2005, 08:17 PM
We have a 2002 GMC 2500HD crew cab with short box and 6.0L gas.:dizzy:


Sounds as if your dealer wanted to get rid of a truck on his lot rather than find you one you wanted:realmad: