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radracer
11-04-2005, 02:56 PM
I have a customer that wants me to install 1,585' sq of sod in her back yard. The area is flat and square with one tree to cut around. There is very little grass there so prep work is minimal. I figure I will need 1,650' sq of sod so I will have extra. I pay $150.00 for a 500' sq pallet. I will have two hours total drive time to get there and back. The sod will have to be dropped off in the front and wheeled to the back about a 50' distance. With gas, topsoil, sod fertilizer and labor (employee only not me) I will have $810.00 invested. I was thinking of charging $1,100.00 (.66 per sq foot) installed for this job. Am I off base with this price? What would you charge? Any help is appreciated.

Also I have to install 4 yards of river rock at the same place cost is $75.00 yard. What do you guys charge for labor to lay the rock. On mulch I multiply by 3 but that sounds really high to me. What do you think?

Thanks
Harold

sheshovel
11-04-2005, 09:26 PM
Well,your sod alone is going to be $600.00 right"?That leaves you 210.00 out of the 810 you say you will have invested to pay for two hours drive gas,a helpers pay ,topsoil,delivery,fertilizer.I would say something is wrong right there in your thinking.Cuz that only leaves you $290.00 to make on the whole job and that is not even worth the drive or the effort
for that price.
How much to charge for applying 4 yards of rock depends on how far you have to move that rock .So I can't give you a number.

radracer
11-04-2005, 10:14 PM
Sheshovel thanks for the reply. I figured $500 for the sod. I will have to buy the full 2000' sq but I am using the rest on another job and charging them accordingly.
$500 sod delivered
$125 employee
$ 50 gas
$ 50 topsoil
$ 50 fert.
$ 35 roller

I figured drive time included we should be done in an 8 hour day. So that leaves $290.00 for me/business. Not a lot I agree but work is slow right now. That is why I started this thread, to see how far off I was. What would you charge?

Thanks
Harold

chuckers
11-04-2005, 10:33 PM
2000 sqft sod 270$ on site... Fert 23$.... labor 100$ in paid worker after taxes etc .... Black dirt 4 yards $37... Debris Removal 15$

Grand total 445

Price customer sees

2000 Sqft sod 270*2.3= 621$ Fert 65$ Labor 500$ Black dirt Four yards 64$ Debris removal 95$

Grand total 1345


Profit margin 900$

chuckers
11-04-2005, 10:36 PM
sorry wrong sod price never mind my post... we only deal with blue grass around here

RedWingsDet
11-04-2005, 10:57 PM
I cant belive how much your paying for sod, its only 11 cents a sq foot here. For something like that i'd charge about 1900 including a tear out, 7 yards of topsoil, sod, roller and all that good stuff.

So figure if you were paying my prices, it'd be:
2000 sq feet of sod: 220+tax
Roller & Fert: 30
employee: 100
7 yards topsoil: 50
then figure an extra 100 for stuff that is unforseen

So thats 500 in material and 1400 profit for about 5 hours of work.



so with your prices you should be around the 2400. but it all depends on what your market can get you.

chuckers
11-04-2005, 11:03 PM
I wish I could get that but it seems as tho any hillbilly in the countryside thinks they can lay sod for cheeper then I can buy it for. I'm confused. :dizzy:

justanotherlawnguy
11-04-2005, 11:37 PM
I am in Tampa and charge $0.85 sq/ft for installs on new sod with little/no site prep work.
As far as the rock, I charge 5 times the price of a mulch job because it is such a PITA to do. It is a monster to shovel out of the back of the truck and then wheelbarrow, not to mention putting the landscaping fabric down. SO I always charge five times the price of my mulching jobs.

sheshovel
11-05-2005, 12:47 AM
radracer your too cheap.and your paying too much for your sod.30 cents a foot?Try to hit middle ground with a bid of $2000.00 and leave it at that I guess.Not including moving the rock..that should be about 65.00 a yard labor alone DEPENDING ON how far it has to go.

justanotherlawnguy
11-05-2005, 01:00 AM
He is not paying too much for sod. Down here a 500 sq foot pallet of st augustine/floratam (which is all anyone uses in this area) goes for $150.00per pallet. More if it is delivered. Most of the nurserys around here all charge the same prices for sod/mulch/dirt/plants.
Sod goes so fast down here it is not even funny:blob3:

You can get Bahia for $60 or so, but nobody wants that crap!!!!!

Green Pastures
11-05-2005, 01:03 AM
I get $6 a sq yd, installed here.

radracer
11-05-2005, 01:09 AM
justanotherlawnguy is that .85 installed meaning $1,402.50 for the job?
Thanks to all for the replies.

justanotherlawnguy
11-05-2005, 05:42 PM
THat is correct, plus they get charged if I have to do any site prep work.
1650 sq ft sod =1402.50 plus minimal prep equals a $1500.00 sod job. Thats what I would bid.

The Ripper
11-05-2005, 07:45 PM
I am in Orlando and without any heavy demolition we charge $300 to $350 per pallet for St. Augustine (depending on how hot it is and if we can fit the pallets where they need to go). The closer you can get them the better. I would say $1200 would be a perfect price for that install. Always quote for full pallets whether you need all the sod or not. NEVER ROUND DOWN. most calculations are off a little and you never know if some of the sod will be crushed beyond recognition. Also this is not up north so you do not need a roller and you do not need to fertilize it will grow in well as long as you have them water 45 minutes at a time once a day for a week and then every other day for week and then it should be perfect. Also where something that can be destroyed because that St. Augustine sod sure can stain a shirt.

sheshovel
11-05-2005, 09:07 PM
Ok OK wait a minute here now.If you are paying $150.00 a pallet and the pallets are 500 sq' and you need to order 2000 sq' (because I don't know of any place that will sell partial pallets of sod)
Then you have 150.00 x 4 and that = 600.00 where are you getting $500.00 for the sod?And is your delivery free?Whos bringing in the topsoil?You or are you getting that delivered free too?
THINK THINK THINK again

The Ripper
11-05-2005, 10:13 PM
You do not need to apply topsoil in Central Florida. Remember to stick with advice from those within the same region. That are used to our sandy soil and almost year round growth season. And also in central Florida you can easily purchase a partial pallet of sod!!!!!!!!!!

sheshovel
11-06-2005, 11:52 PM
HEY,He's the one who said what he was going to use Not me so......Don't act like I am giving advice for your area for stuff that is not needed.radracer said he needed topsoil,fertilizer and a roller.And mabey he can buy a partial pallet there SO WHAT?The basic premis is the same.