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maui8
11-14-2005, 09:50 AM
Hi,
I am putting together my business plan and all seems well. Since this will be my first 'riding' 34 inch mower I will own, I am wondering how long the typical 1/4 acre lot will take (assuming the backyard and the majority of the property is clear).

1. the manual says the mower can travel up to 9mph. do you guys travel at max speed when cutting a lawn? if your travelling around 6-7 mph, cutting with a 34 inch mower, how long does the 'tyipical' 1/4 lawn take to cut?

2. does lawn damage occur when travelling at max speeds?

Thanks,

fool32696
11-14-2005, 10:32 AM
As always, there isn't a simple answer. In my experience I only travel at max speed on a few accts. Lots of factors are involved: is the yard bumpy?, how tall is the grass?, what kind of grass is it?, how sharp are your blades?, how much is there to mow around? If it isn't a commercial mower, you generally have to go slower to keep the cut quality nice. I mainly deal with 1/2 acre yards and they take me about 50min with my 50" ZTR including edging, weedeating, and blowing. If I remember correctly I can do a 1/4 acre yard in 30-35min. Maybe an hour for you?

Runner
11-14-2005, 08:46 PM
To begin with, you're not going to get up to 9 mph too often on a 1/4 acre lot. One thing that I have found, is that for a solo, it can take almost as long to do a 1/4 acre lot as it does a 1/2 acre lot. To answer your question about damage at "maximum" speeds, the damage occurs when accelerating out of a turn, and when coming to a stop for the turn. Of course, there is always damage that can occur DURiNG the turn if not done right or done carelessly. A 34" rider would handle these jobs rather well, though.

maui8
11-15-2005, 09:27 AM
thanks for the replies.

is going 6mph a decent speed? lets assume that the property is a rectangular shaped backyard, clear of trees and such, and the grass is the size of 2 weeks worth of growth.

the mower is a ztr 34 inch. how long do you guys think it will take just to cut? I was planning to have my 17 yo cousin do the trimming, edging, and clean up while i do the cutting.

PTP
11-15-2005, 10:05 AM
Once you get things figured out - and it will take a little while to be able to do things quickly - you should be able to cut 1/4 acre lots in about 20 minutes or less. There are a lot of variables but that is a rough estimate.

topsites
11-15-2005, 11:56 AM
To begin with, you're not going to get up to 9 mph too often on a 1/4 acre lot. One thing that I have found, is that for a solo, it can take almost as long to do a 1/4 acre lot as it does a 1/2 acre lot. To answer your question about damage at "maximum" speeds, the damage occurs when accelerating out of a turn, and when coming to a stop for the turn. Of course, there is always damage that can occur DURiNG the turn if not done right or done carelessly. A 34" rider would handle these jobs rather well, though.

Lets not forget what happens to YOU when your deck hits an object such as a hidden tree stump at that speed...
You should NEVER speed on a lawn, it is a serious safety violation that can hurt and kill you. That having been said:
- I DO speed (but not 9 mph, more like 6-7) but ONLY on open terrain AND in known lots where I've cut before: NEVER speed on a maiden cut unless you can SEE the lot can take it, even then it is always a danger.

Far as damage to the machine, dude you can run the deck into a brick wall at full speed and it will hurt YOU and the wall far worse than it will hurt the mower... Well, at least with the Toro that is the case thou I suppose you can break a caster or flatten a tire.

Precision
11-15-2005, 07:09 PM
34 inch ZTR or lawn tractor?

I have a 36" scag Zcat. I run it flat out on 1/4 acre yards on the straights, slowing for 3 point turns. It is mainly a backyard mower, but on the properties we use it on, unless the front is really big we don't bother with the bigger mower. takes longer to get it loaded and unloaded than to just keep using the 36"

what you have will be time competitive on yards with islands and decorations compared to a larger mower. Where it will be much slower is on lawns with only the house and minor beds.

15-25 minutes is a good time estimate for cutting loading and unloading. Edging, line trimming and blowing can easily make the yard take 45-60 if done solo. Just make sure you bid them according to complexity not just size.

mch181
11-15-2005, 07:18 PM
im gonna get a small zero turn next season
either a 36/42 inch deck
i was thinking hustler mini fastrak any others?

maui8
11-15-2005, 09:11 PM
hi thanks all for the helpful replies. helps put my business plan in perspective.

if i am sticking strictly to 1/4 acre lots, im looking to spend around anywhere from 15mins - 30mins per each lawn.
i can make ~60 bucks an hr - labor - fuel - equipment depreciation....

FiremanDud
11-15-2005, 10:02 PM
hey maui, I have a 34 Rider to. I also have one partner and we can get unloaded and loaded in about 20-25 mins per 1/4 lot. I go full throtle only on open areas and if it's flat. You will love that machine it's a great start up mower to do both front and back of yards. Just go slow when making turns because the tire's are so narrow that it does rut if you go to fast.

PMLAWN
11-16-2005, 10:20 AM
Exactly 5 min. at 9 MPH
Exactly 7.5 min at 6 MPH
Exactly 15 min at 3 MPH

But this is a 1/4 acre that is 2.75 feet wide and 3960 feet long
in other words no turning
Now how many turns do you have to do and is this a Z or a tractor
A tractor will take longer
Figure about 5 to 6 seconds per turn
So if the yard is 60 feet wide (and 180 deep) you will turn about 22 times so add about 132 seconds or a little over two min.
If it is about square (about 104x 104) it will take about 38 turns or about 228 extra seconds or about 4 min.

And than we have to add for trees----But that can wait for another rainy day

Runner
11-16-2005, 10:48 AM
...and overlap, and terrain, and contouring, and borders, and moving from one section to another, and shut off points, etc.,....

Lost Pine
11-16-2005, 01:24 PM
Where you located in NJ ...Maui8 ?

maui8
11-16-2005, 07:33 PM
hi, im located near sicklerville/washington township. if i can mow 2 lawns a day, i would be real happy.