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meets1
11-16-2005, 09:41 PM
Pricing an install on a block wall. The block measures 8"H x 18"W x 21"L. Weight 120 Pounds / block, set with pins. This wall is a joint venture b/t property owners. It is planned for 500 block with 152 caps. What do I price - per sq foot, hourly, or double my supply cost?? Also calling for around 90 - 100 tons of aggrate.

The digging is easy, one side of property is high, the other side very low, just building up in b/t land owners.

sheshovel
11-17-2005, 11:22 PM
Post this in the Hardscaping forum here

UNISCAPER
11-19-2005, 12:41 PM
So in other words you are building a Keystone Standard unit wall (the dimensions and weight per block you posted are the measurements for standards) and it won't be higher than 3'.

Is the wall going on level ground? What is behind and on top of it? How easy is it to access? You will need 12-14 tons of base for the leveling pad assuming the trench will be 3' wide by 6" deep. the cell fill plus 6" behind the tails will require about 24-30 tons of 3/4" rock not 90 tons. You will need half a roll of 6'x300' geo textile fabric, 165' of 4" SDR-35 perf pipe, 2-4" 90° elbows, 1-4" "T" and 50' of SDR-35 solid pipe to get the water out from behind the wall.
you will have some dumping of spoils to consider, and the logistics for that.

Assuming you have good access and can run pallets within a 5' space from the wall face, and all cuts have been made, with trenching, drains and assembly you should have 275 hours in the job with clean up.

Labor, $19,900.00
Wall delivered to the site is going to be sitting at the $4,700.00 mark
Pins per 900 piece box $85.00
Pipe and fittings $600.00
Fabric $230.00
Gravel base $300.00 delivered
Washed stone back fill $865.00

You are looking at $53.00 per square foot assuming access is good and the materials prices are as quoted.

all ferris
11-21-2005, 09:40 AM
So in other words you are building a Keystone Standard unit wall (the dimensions and weight per block you posted are the measurements for standards) and it won't be higher than 3'.

Is the wall going on level ground? What is behind and on top of it? How easy is it to access? You will need 12-14 tons of base for the leveling pad assuming the trench will be 3' wide by 6" deep. the cell fill plus 6" behind the tails will require about 24-30 tons of 3/4" rock not 90 tons. You will need half a roll of 6'x300' geo textile fabric, 165' of 4" SDR-35 perf pipe, 2-4" 90° elbows, 1-4" "T" and 50' of SDR-35 solid pipe to get the water out from behind the wall.
you will have some dumping of spoils to consider, and the logistics for that.

Assuming you have good access and can run pallets within a 5' space from the wall face, and all cuts have been made, with trenching, drains and assembly you should have 275 hours in the job with clean up.

Labor, $19,900.00
Wall delivered to the site is going to be sitting at the $4,700.00 mark
Pins per 900 piece box $85.00
Pipe and fittings $600.00
Fabric $230.00
Gravel base $300.00 delivered
Washed stone back fill $865.00

You are looking at $53.00 per square foot assuming access is good and the materials prices are as quoted.

I would never get that price around here...people would look at me and do this :dizzy:

meets1
11-21-2005, 11:11 PM
Wall, pipe, fill, fabric, ect coming in at $5700. We'll have roughly $12,000 K for labor - that includes skid, tampers, fuel, and labor cost.

JKOOPERS
11-22-2005, 12:57 AM
wow you have to pay for pins . not here we dont . thats just ridicluoius

UNISCAPER
11-22-2005, 10:41 AM
"wow you have to pay for pins . not here we dont . thats just ridicluoius"

What is the difference weather or not you pay as a line item or you are charged in the per block price of the wall material? I can assure you one way or the other you will be paying for them.

meets1
11-22-2005, 09:28 PM
I asked the same question - i am used to paying for pins. They said the same thing - one way or another - you'll pay. Or at least someone will pay!