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aschiou
03-31-2001, 04:03 PM
I just bought a house with 5 acres. I'd like to cut the lawn in least amount of time and have the mower last for a long time. Interested in hearing from the professionals like you whether an Exmark Lazer Z or Lazer Z Hp will be appropriate for home use. Thanks!

Adam

mdb landscaping
03-31-2001, 04:14 PM
i went to get a quote from a dealer on a full size lazer i purchased for commercial accounts and he said all the homeowners are now buying the HP's over the lawn tractors. it gets the job done quicker and looks better in the end. you may pay a little more, but it will last for a long time.

accuratelawn
03-31-2001, 04:17 PM
Why not hire a LCO to do the work for you? Much cheaper than spending $8,000 for a mower. Plus maintenance, fuel, etc.
I'm sure there is a company that would be happy to mow it for you.

John DiMartino
03-31-2001, 04:47 PM
I bought my 60"Dixie chopper for my lawn,and 2 others,I dont think its overkill at all,I have 11 acres I cut,a week,evtually my lots will add up to 19acres.I wish I got a bigger/ faster machine still.It tkaes too long to cut my 7 acres-still.I dont blame him for not hiring out the work.normal rate for 5 acres here is 175-200.times 200 by 30 cuts,and its 6000 a year for cutting.The lazer will be 8K,and last 15 yrs easy,and only cost 500 or less to run and maintain a season on 5 acres.If you count your time,then it all starts to add up,but I like to cut my yard.

Eric ELM
03-31-2001, 05:02 PM
I don't think it is over kill at all. I know a guy that has a Dixie Chopper 72" with 40hp. That seems like over kill until you figure he mows 28 acres a week.

I have noticed a lot of home owners that are buying commercial ZTR's instead of buying the junk that is normally used for this purpose. You will be money ahead doing this and it will last for many years.

You will only put on 60 hours a year mowing with this in northern areas. I forgot to look at what part of the USA you are in before starting this. If you live in a northern state, you will use it 60 hours a year and if this lasted as long as my old Chopper has, it would last you over 50 years and still be running strong.

Mr.Ziffel
03-31-2001, 05:06 PM
I just bought a LazerZ, 60" 27LC for a 40 acre horse farm and depending on which pastures are being grazed, etc., I mow 4 to 7 acres, sometimes twice a week depending on the time of year [like now]. I'm not a LCO, but I have a wife who expects the place to look like there's a Kentucky Derby winner in one of the stalls, so it's part of my job and I work at it. I'm with John DiMartino all the way.

I've had bids of up to $250 a cut, I've hired workers and I've just decided to do it myself. The economics of the farm don't work at $250 a cut and the help is always breaking equipment and just rushes through [hello, I'm paying by the hour!! and they still don't understand the concept of take your time and do it right!!] As those who listened to me on this forum during my buying decision know, I mow when it's wet and someone who doesn't take their time and do it right might as well not do it at all.

The guy I bought my Exmark from sold 39 Z's last year with more than half to homeowners on large lots, so I'd say go for it. John's right that you'll get done a lot faster and the machine will pay for itself. Good luck, Will

accuratelawn
03-31-2001, 09:19 PM
Hey LCO guys,
Way to go! Lets sell all the homeowners ZTR mowers so they can cut it themselves.
Even if he paid 150 per cut at 28 times per year, that would only be $4,200 per year.
COST TO HOMEOWNER-
New machine $8,000
TIME TO MOW - lets say 2 hours+- times 28 mowings+- 50 hours
At $20 per hour (assuming his time is worth at least this)$1,000
fuel, oil, filters fuel $190 oil+ filter $12 hydro oil plus filter $17 air filter $15 extra set of blades $30 etc etc That is another $1,300 per year.
I am sure he wants to spent time in the yard, but there will be plenty of work in addition to mowing on a 5 acre piece of land.
An efficient LCO could operate the machine an still save this guy the time and expense.

Runner
03-31-2001, 09:28 PM
Aschiou, If you're sitting on 5 acres of property, you're going to have alot more to do for chores than just mow. I think for all practical purposes, I would be looking into a compact to midsize tractor. You can outfit it with a nice finish mower in back and have all the speed and power you need. Also with this, you can also get alot of other things done, like with a front bucket and rear blade. Come winter, you're all set on your snow removal. As far as the appearance of the mowing, you can stripe with this type of tractor, especially with 5 acres to move around on. Anyway, it's just a thought, for all practical purposes.

sunrise
03-31-2001, 09:35 PM
CALL ME i mow in you area. I mow and you will have all the time you need
the mow will last a long time if just mowing 5 acres.
but I still could give you a good price
I am in the phone book

Charles
04-01-2001, 09:26 AM
I agree with Accuratelawn. Life is too short to be mowing all that grass on your time off. And too you have to pay yourself for all that time spent on the mower because after the newness wears off it will be like a job. Do we really need to be encouraging people to cut their own lawns? LOL. You can tell the people who have too much business when they start doing that.

lee b
04-01-2001, 10:06 AM
Runner is right, a compact tractor with a mower would be much more useful, if you can't afford both. Ztr's are great for mowing but a tractor can mow and do so much more.

Eric ELM
04-01-2001, 10:34 AM
He did originally say I'd like to cut the lawn in least amount of time and have the mower last for a long time.

Using a tractor will take twice as long to mow this. I have a 60" tractor type mower and 60" ZTR type mowers. The 60" cut tractor now sits during the mowing season. Anything with a steering wheel to mow with is worthless, in my opinion. I'm spoiled. :D

John DiMartino
04-01-2001, 10:55 AM
Dont consider myself an LCO,I only do a few lawns of my best plow commercial customers,and my own.I dont do residential anyway.The man wants to mow his own lawn,thats pretty clear in his post,I am in the same boat,and would not pay anyone to mow my 7 acres,it would cost me 250 a cut here.You must need customers bad.You can add up all the costs all day long,if he wants to do it himself-its his property.I still think I come out ahead doing it myself,and think he will too.I agree that 1300 a yr is a good # for him,but the 8K machine wil last him at the least 1o years,with 50 hrs a yr ,it will have 500 hrs on it,salvage value will be 2500-easy,so the true cost is 5500-over 10 years=550 a yr.Add 550+ the 1300-you get 1800 a yr-and he's paying himself 20 an hr to do it.the only thing not considered here is what else he could do with the money.1800 a yr-and get paid 20 an hr to mow-or 4200 a yr(that would be 6000 a yr here,for a professional )-and hope they show up on time,and do a good job-Sounds like an easy choice to me,and with the mower,he has it at his disposal for other od jobs,and just for piece of mind,with an LCo-he needs to find someone ASAP-if they dont show or drop him,since he has no mower.

[Edited by John DiMartino on 04-01-2001 at 11:10 AM]

accuratelawn
04-01-2001, 12:05 PM
Yes he said he wants to mow it, but why in a short time? Because maybe he doesn't really enjoy it?
Hire a LCO to provide the service.
Say he spends the $8,000 and finds out the mowing and upkeep for the mower is not worth the effort?
And John, I am not hard up for customers. I had a full schedule before the season started thanks!

aschiou
04-01-2001, 06:33 PM
Folks,
I do appreciate all the suggestions both from the LCO's and otherwise.

1. I do enjoy mowing my own lawn, but like any good things if it goes on too long it won't be quite as enjoyable.
2. I prefer the idea of owning my own equipment and mow whenever I want.
3. Why pay someone to have the fun?

Adam

toddco
04-01-2001, 08:05 PM
Accurate, do you mow your own lawn?

If so, wouldn't it make more sense for you to hire it out? Then you'd have more time to do extra jobs. Given that you cut lawns all day it must be a drag to come home and have to do one more.

I think you could hire a "scrub" to underbid the job. That would also have the benefit of keeping him too busy to bid any of your customers. etc.

(all in fun)

Catcher
04-02-2001, 07:44 AM
aschiou,
I don't think it's overkill. I just got done spending the family's vacationfund for the next 15years on a commercial unit to mow my 3 acres. Look around and buy a mower that really suits you. Consider to at least look at ZTR's with front-mounted decks, this could be handy.
Good luck

accuratelawn
04-02-2001, 06:23 PM
I had a guy sent me a letter saying he would cut my lawn for $15. I should have taken him up on it. I usually cut my lawn with my back up mower, just to keep it ready for use.