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Signature Landscaping1
12-11-2005, 08:36 PM
I am currently looking at a brand new lesco w/b, 48in , 15hp kawi, there is a dealer bout 15 min from me and there price is $2499.
I need some feedback on them?
Thanks Joe
lawnmaniac883
12-11-2005, 09:08 PM
What size deck/hp engine?
Signature Landscaping1
12-11-2005, 09:10 PM
15hp kawi/ 48in deck
Envy Lawn Service
12-11-2005, 09:16 PM
I say spend a little more and get this one.
http://www.lesco.com/NoCompression/GetData.aspx?Type=ProdResource&ID=110
It's available in 48" also for $3,699
The deck is great.
Have it on my Z.
Signature Landscaping1
12-11-2005, 09:45 PM
I do like that on but, its to heavy for the capacity on my tractor right now, since i dont have my licesece yet, thats why i had my bunton, nice and light to pull around. but now im looking for a new mower. and im leaning towards the lesco w/b belt drive. any more feedback? thanks ENVY LAWN i will look into that mower when i can drive.
Envy Lawn Service
12-11-2005, 09:53 PM
Yeah, I have more feedback...
So, why not get the castor sulky, a trimmer trap and whatever else you need so you can just ride the hydro walkbehind job-to-job?
Signature Landscaping1
12-11-2005, 10:02 PM
i have 20 accounts in my hood, but most of them are spread pretty far apart, and i usally have someone working for me, gas, i get around quicker using my tractor and trailer, i usally have a spreader on the trailer, for some lawns after i mow, fall cleanups, i have a little wonder, and backpacks and stuff i need to haul around. along with the mower. so im deff leeaning towards that belt drive lesco, soo do have ne feed back on that?. but thanks for the info on the hydro.
Joe
dcondon
12-11-2005, 10:15 PM
i have 20 accounts in my hood, but most of them are spread pretty far apart, and i usally have someone working for me, gas, i get around quicker using my tractor and trailer, i usally have a spreader on the trailer, for some lawns after i mow, fall cleanups, i have a little wonder, and backpacks and stuff i need to haul around. along with the mower. so im deff leeaning towards that belt drive lesco, soo do have ne feed back on that?. but thanks for the info on the hydro.
Joe
Signature, Your going to kick yourself in the butt for buying a belt drive. just spend a little more money and get the hyro...... You will be thankful you did.
YES, Lesco and Cub Cadet commercial are great mowers and you will be happy with that also.:waving:
Envy Lawn Service
12-11-2005, 10:23 PM
Weight on the floating deck hydro is 658 lbs.
The fixed deck belt drive is 468 lbs.
The difference is 190 lbs.
Neither weigh more than say a lawn tractor.
Rhett
12-11-2005, 10:31 PM
Nothing wrong with the Lesco. Have had mine four years with little problems. Right now they have the fixxed deck hydro with 17 kaw and electric start for about a grand more then the belt. In the long run you will be much happier with the hydro but the belt will make you money also.
Signature Landscaping1
12-11-2005, 10:52 PM
The hydro I think is 3600, thats a good price right?
Signature Landscaping1
12-11-2005, 10:53 PM
maybe i will consider the floating deck also
Signature Landscaping1
12-11-2005, 10:56 PM
http://www.lesco.com/ProdCatalog/ProdCatalogNav.aspx?ProdGroupID=31&SKUGroupID=83
Envy Lawn Service
12-11-2005, 11:08 PM
maybe i will consider the floating deck also
Heck yeah, why not get more and better for the same money?
Both are $3,699.
lwcmattlifter
12-11-2005, 11:13 PM
If you are serious about this as a profession and productivity matters go with a hydro. If you go with a belt drive in the end you'll realize these guys are right and you'll wish you had one. Spend a little more now and save time and money later. The hydro fixed and floating 52/54" mowers are the same price at 3,899. $3,899 is a killer deal for this type of machine. Mine cuts as good as my other WB's that cost $5-6,000. This seems like a no brainer to me.
Signature Landscaping1
12-11-2005, 11:21 PM
Thanks guys, im probly gunna go with the hydro 48in w/b at 3600 thats a great price. and i do love mowing, been doin it for 5 years. but neways, how do they stripe?
Envy Lawn Service
12-11-2005, 11:27 PM
Stripe great...
The floating deck hydro comes stock with a roller kit on the back of the deck.
Signature Landscaping1
12-12-2005, 07:35 AM
nice........
eliahwoodcutter
12-12-2005, 07:17 PM
they are good ,the only problem is they are very heavy and very hard to drive around .
after i bought my exmark i can make the difference.you pay a Little bit more but is Worth it!!!:gunsfirin
Signature Landscaping1
12-12-2005, 08:06 PM
walk behind, belt or hydro
Envy Lawn Service
12-12-2005, 09:31 PM
they are good ,the only problem is they are very heavy and very hard to drive around .
after i bought my exmark i can make the difference.you pay a Little bit more but is Worth it!!!:gunsfirin
All the old pistol grip wb's are hard to handle and drive around in my opinion.
The new Lesco WB has nice ZTR-like controls.
Easy on the arms/wrists/hands... no carpal tunnel or tennis elbow from running them.
Having tennis elbow in both already from outdoor work, I feel very strongly now about this issue. There is enough repetitive and straining motions in lawn work as-is without having to do them to control a mower too....
You young fellas would be well advised to forget about what mowers are in style at the moment and think about your own long term longivity in this business. You only get one body and you can wear important parts of it out quick.
That being said, there are few WB's I'd consider...
HYDRO's
Lesco Floating deck
Hustler
Gravely Pro-Steer
Toro T-Bar
Bunton w/ZTR controls
Belt
Gravely Pro-Steer
Toro T-Bar
As for weight of the Lesco mowers... yeah, they are heavy compaired to most. That's pretty much across the board... and it's enough of a difference that you can feel it while driving and using it. They do have a heavy feel about them. They are built heavier, don't suffer from the bouncing around, and get a bit more traction, which are all qualities I like. But the trade-off is a bit of a lumbersome feel at times.
Can't have it all I don't guess.
Signature Landscaping1
12-12-2005, 09:34 PM
I also like the toro t bars if those are any lighter, but im still strongly interested in the lesco
Envy Lawn Service
12-12-2005, 10:01 PM
I also like the toro t bars if those are any lighter, but im still strongly interested in the lesco
You would have to go with a belt though for the money.
That would sorta suck.
Steppenwolf
12-12-2005, 10:22 PM
Won't say what brand, t bar,ecs or pistol grip to get but go with the hydro with any unit you decide on.
Envy Lawn Service
12-12-2005, 11:58 PM
Won't say what brand, t bar,ecs or pistol grip to get but go with the hydro with any unit you decide on.
Yeah, I'm thinking that's just the thing though... his budget sticks him with a belt drive in other brands. But on the other hand, he can get a hydro PLUS all the nice bells and whistles from Lesco. Plus, to top it all off, they sure as heck ain't any less of a mower than the others by any means. In fact, in my opinion, the Lesco's with the black decks are BETTER performers.
Awesome value if you ask me...
MNBOY
12-13-2005, 10:52 AM
Any opinions on the Lesco riders? It appears that they too are pretty reasonable in price as well. Also, how do the bagger attachments work on them? I have been thinking about Lesco as well, but I have not heard a ton of positive feedback when it comes to dealer support.
dcondon
12-13-2005, 11:34 AM
Any opinions on the Lesco riders? It appears that they too are pretty reasonable in price as well. Also, how do the bagger attachments work on them? I have been thinking about Lesco as well, but I have not heard a ton of positive feedback when it comes to dealer support.
Lesco/ Cub Cadet are the same mower. The only diference is the paint. Cub Cadet has great dealer support, or has been for us. They are great mowers and will do you very well.:)
Envy Lawn Service
12-13-2005, 02:47 PM
Any opinions on the Lesco riders? It appears that they too are pretty reasonable in price as well. Also, how do the bagger attachments work on them? I have been thinking about Lesco as well, but I have not heard a ton of positive feedback when it comes to dealer support.
Yeah, I have all kinds of opinions about Lesco riders.
I bought a new 60" ZTwo a few months ago.
As of now, these mowers are my new mower of choice.
As of now, I also do not see that changing anytime soon.
In addition, as of now, Lesco is my new favorite for service as well.
I have not used the bagger though.
Yes, the ZTwo is the same thing as the Cub Tank. Likewise, dealer support is going to vary from Lesco to Lesco, just as it does from Cub dealer to Cub dealer.
To be honest about it, I doubted Lesco for a long time. I even gave my local Cub dealer the first shot at my business even though I knew it was going to cost me over $2,000 plus tax EXTRA for the same machine. I wanted to keep my business local with a hometown dealer, thinking I'd get better service.
Well, the best Cub Commercial dealer here still sucked. Real jerks. So I drove 80 miles down to Lesco. I got the same machine, better service and paid LESS. That's hard to beat. The local dealers around here suck for almost every brand. The Lesco I use makes them look bad from 80 miles away... real bad.
Signature Landscaping1
12-13-2005, 04:49 PM
I checked with the dealer today, they said they had 2 in the showrrom, so im deff thinking bout it
ALarsh
12-13-2005, 11:57 PM
Why don't you use your brand new 60" diesel exmark?
Signature Landscaping1
12-14-2005, 07:37 AM
Sold it back to the dealer, i got all of my money back, and im gunna use some of it to buy a nice hydro w/b, probly lesco.
JimSolo
01-05-2006, 02:53 PM
I ran the same lesco belt drive for 2 seasons.
I am now a firm HATER of belt drives.
I wont take a second look at anything that doesnt have Hydro
Spend the extra money.
Thats my advice :)
Turf Technologies
01-05-2006, 04:56 PM
You know the 52/19 should only be a $100 more than the 48/17 hydro, why not get the bigger machine?
I really don't understand the controls of the new Lesco( and Ive tried them before) Ive use the pistol grip 52/19, How do you go around gully's and handle hills with that style control Envy?
viper00085
01-06-2006, 11:07 AM
here my take on lesco equip. its not that bad, but its behind the times and you get what you pay for (old saying, but true).
The biggest thing with whatever you invest in is, who is there with the parts and service support for you when you need it. If you own a lesco, generally only lesco will help you out and have parts for them. and every lesco i have ever been in does not stock many parts at all, if any.... and if you get mad at that particular lesco store, were ya gonna go now???
if you buy a name brand, (scag, exmark, toro, bobcat, wright, ferris, etc) at least you usually have multiple dealerships in a small area to back you up, and they stock parts, service, etc.
just something to think about
jt5019
01-06-2006, 01:42 PM
I have two scags a 48 walk behind and a Tiger cub ztr and two scag dealers close to me. Last season when all i needed was a belt for the tiger cub it took me over a week for the dealer to get it in. I ended up ordering a aftermarket one until the original scag one came in. Im looking into a new walk behind this year and the Lesco hydro with the floating deck looks like a very nice machine to me. Im gonna find out about service before i jump into the deal but to me they seem just as good as any other commercial mower.
Turf Technologies
01-06-2006, 02:21 PM
Well the problem with getting parts should be corrected soon so I understand. But I wouldnt say there outdated at all.Put a Lesco machine next to ex mark and show me anything that sticks out as different? The engines are the same as any other brand and thats all that matters.Service at Lesco stores are always good, for know you have to pray they have parts in stock otherwise it will be a long day.
viper00085
01-06-2006, 03:55 PM
like i said its not a bad unit. but there are differences and engines arent everything. youve got to account for what guage metal they are using on the decks , blade tip speed for a good cut/look (which lesco does not publish these specs anywhere i could find) they use cheap pump/wheel motor combos on the floating deck hydro units, as compared to independt strong hydro gear pump and seperate wheel motors used on other major brands.
but it all comes down to who do you feel comfortable doing business with, thats gonna support you when your in trouble.
jt5019
01-06-2006, 05:17 PM
The reason L
jt5019
01-06-2006, 05:21 PM
The reason Lesco cought my interest is because of the way they looked,especially the floating deck unit. The Scag walk behinds(which ive always used) are so plain.Dont get me wrong i think Scag are one of the top mowers but I was looking for something other than the old pistol grips and scag hasnt changed that. I think Dealer support is very important If Lesco treats me good i may just switch over.
viper00085
01-06-2006, 05:35 PM
i love the exmark turf tracer hp hydro walk behind. floating deck, good cut. strong unit. easy to track. and with the ecs handles (up handles) they are so comfortable. i would check one of those out and demo one before you make your choice.
jt5019
01-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Exmark is one of the mowers im considering still.My scag dealer actually sells Exmark too.Around here Exmark and scag pretty much rule the area and i know they are very good mowers. I kinda didnt want a red mower on my trailer but who really cares as long as its making money....I plan to demo Both Exmark and Lesco and compare the Pros on Cons.
One thing that could be a big plus for me with the Lesco is my family is pretty close with the branch manager for my area.
wriken
01-06-2006, 08:11 PM
alot of the mowers share the same hydraulic motors/pumps. The cub which is the same as lesco, have Parker wheel motors and Hydro gear pumps, both very big names in the hydraulic world. :)
John Gamba
01-07-2006, 10:21 AM
I checked with the dealer today, they said they had 2 in the showrrom, so im deff thinking bout it
Sig
Where is your lesco dealer??
John
John Gamba
01-09-2006, 09:08 AM
I say spend a little more and get this one.
http://www.lesco.com/NoCompression/GetData.aspx?Type=ProdResource&ID=110
It's available in 48" also for $3,699
The deck is great.
Have it on my Z.
Envy
I got a shot at seeing this mower on the show room floor today:cool: Did you use the controls?? if you did how was it on hills and bumpy ground???
John
Signature Landscaping1
01-09-2006, 07:32 PM
what dealer did you go to?
John Gamba
01-09-2006, 09:21 PM
what dealer did you go to?
just Out side of Springfield
Envy Lawn Service
01-09-2006, 09:47 PM
Envy
I got a shot at seeing this mower on the show room floor today:cool: Did you use the controls?? if you did how was it on hills and bumpy ground???
John
John,
The controls are very easy... probably the best I have seen.
Pretty much like ZTR sticks.
This is one of the few systems that makes sense to me really.
I just can't see myself using anything that requires a death grip.
Doesn't make sense long-term.
Just asking for hand/wrist/arm problems.
I didn't mow with it though, so I can't say any more about it than that.
It might be hard for long term pistol grip users to get the hang of.
So I'm guessing you'll think it's weird to you at first.
All stuff like this seems to suck until you get the hang of it with experience.
It's hard to break old habits and learn all over again.
But John, I really like this mower, and if I were going to add a walkbehind today, one of those is what I'd go buy. The decks are second to none and I'd need controls that were easy. Which one would I buy? Well of the two, as much as I really miss having a 48" deck, it would be hard for me not to get the 54" model, and there would be no question if it was the primary mower. For what? $200 you get the bigger deck, 2 more HP and the ever beloved canister air filtration.
I'd love to add one, but I'm trying my best not to is all. I could really use a break on spending because I've really forked out some cash on mowers in recent years.....
payup
JWTurfguy
01-10-2006, 12:52 AM
JT5019, where in CT are you?
John Gamba
01-10-2006, 07:59 AM
John,
The controls are very easy... probably the best I have seen.
Pretty much like ZTR sticks.
This is one of the few systems that makes sense to me really.
I just can't see myself using anything that requires a death grip.
Doesn't make sense long-term.
Just asking for hand/wrist/arm problems.
I didn't mow with it though, so I can't say any more about it than that.
It might be hard for long term pistol grip users to get the hang of.
So I'm guessing you'll think it's weird to you at first.
All stuff like this seems to suck until you get the hang of it with experience.
It's hard to break old habits and learn all over again.
But John, I really like this mower, and if I were going to add a walkbehind today, one of those is what I'd go buy. The decks are second to none and I'd need controls that were easy. Which one would I buy? Well of the two, as much as I really miss having a 48" deck, it would be hard for me not to get the 54" model, and there would be no question if it was the primary mower. For what? $200 you get the bigger deck, 2 more HP and the ever beloved canister air filtration.
I'd love to add one, but I'm trying my best not to is all. I could really use a break on spending because I've really forked out some cash on mowers in recent years.....
payup
How deep is the 54" deck on your rider, Its only 4" deep on the 54" walk:eek: That aint going to cut it:cry:
viper00085
01-10-2006, 08:31 AM
as mentioned above, the riders have the good pumps and wheel motors on them, but NoT the floating deck walk behinds. they use a single eaton transaxle assy (pump/wheel motor combo). its a much cheaper set up and will not last as long as the independent pump and wheel motor set ups.
And as i mentioned above and John Gamba also said. theres a lot of differences in decks if you know what to look for in design that will make cut/performace differences. (such as blade tip speed, depth, baffle design for blowout, etc)
i tell all of my customers i deal with at the shop, demo everything you can get your hands on and then make your decision. and talk to as many people as you can who use the units your interested in and see what there feelings on performance/downtime are, more than price...
John Gamba
01-10-2006, 08:45 AM
as mentioned above, the riders have the good pumps and wheel motors on them, but NoT the floating deck walk behinds. they use a single eaton transaxle assy (pump/wheel motor combo). its a much cheaper set up and will not last as long as the independent pump and wheel motor set ups.
And as i mentioned above and John Gamba also said. theres a lot of differences in decks if you know what to look for in design that will make cut/performace differences. (such as blade tip speed, depth, baffle design for blowout, etc)
i tell all of my customers i deal with at the shop, demo everything you can get your hands on and then make your decision. and talk to as many people as you can who use the units your interested in and see what there feelings on performance/downtime are, more than price...
This is very true:eek:
jt5019
01-10-2006, 09:32 AM
JT5019, where in CT are you?
Middletown
wriken
01-10-2006, 10:02 AM
I don't know how the new w/b's cut, or the design/depth of the deck. I also don't know about the drive system on the w/b's, other then my 52" 2001 which has the seperate pump/motor's,never looked at them, don't really fit in my operation,but if the drive system is like the one on my 01 m-60, where everthing was a unit, I have had no problems with it. As far as the deck, if there like my tanks, and I have 3 of them, a 01, 03, and a 04, they have'nt changed them at all over the tank years, they cut as good as any out there, I've put some pics on here as far as Tank stripes.
John Gamba
01-10-2006, 10:05 AM
I don't know how the new w/b's cut, or the design/depth of the deck. I also don't know about the drive system on the w/b's, other then my 52" 2001 which has the seperate pump/motor's,never looked at them, don't really fit in my operation,but if the drive system is like the one on my 01 m-60, where everthing was a unit, I have had no problems with it. As far as the deck, if there like my tanks, and I have 3 of them, a 01, 03, and a 04, they have'nt changed them at all over the tank years, they cut as good as any out there, I've put some pics on here as far as Tank stripes.
I have no use in my area for a 4" deep deck. Where i am those decks don't do tall grass well and for cutting speed? It ain't there:mad:
wriken
01-10-2006, 10:24 AM
I have no use in my area for a 4" deep deck. Where i am those decks don't do tall grass well and for cutting speed? It ain't there:mad:
I have never measured my tank decks, but we do cut alot of tall, very tall grass, from 8"s to 2.5 ', not every day but some people want it cut once a month, or 2-3 times a year, Cabin people is what I call them, up once a year or whatever. What gets me is the 72" cuts the taller grass better then my 60's, you would think the 60's being 12"s less would do a better job. As far as the cutting speed I may have 2 jobs that I can go full bore with, not sure of the speed, the tanks probably go 10-11 mph, but most of the time I would say we go 2-6 mphs if that.
I just looked at my bourchere from cub, they stat a 5" deck on the New style HFF1748 w/b and a ground speed of 6 mph. I don't know how them #'s stack up against the competition.
John Gamba
01-10-2006, 10:26 AM
I have never measured my tank decks, but we do cut alot of tall, very tall grass, from 8"s to 2.5 ', not every day but some people want it cut once a month, or 2-3 times a year, Cabin people is what I call them, up once a year or whatever. What gets me is the 72" cuts the taller grass better then my 60's, you would think the 60's being 12"s less would do a better job. As far as the cutting speed I may have 2 jobs that I can go full bore with, not sure of the speed, the tanks probably go 10-11 mph, but most of the time I would say we go 2-6 mphs if that.
I think you have a deeper deck on the riders.
John
jrc lawncare
01-10-2006, 11:19 AM
as mentioned above, the riders have the good pumps and wheel motors on them, but NoT the floating deck walk behinds. they use a single eaton transaxle assy (pump/wheel motor combo). its a much cheaper set up and will not last as long as the independent pump and wheel motor set ups.
And as i mentioned above and John Gamba also said. theres a lot of differences in decks if you know what to look for in design that will make cut/performace differences. (such as blade tip speed, depth, baffle design for blowout, etc)
i tell all of my customers i deal with at the shop, demo everything you can get your hands on and then make your decision. and talk to as many people as you can who use the units your interested in and see what there feelings on performance/downtime are, more than price... You are indeed correct. I had one earlier in 05, traded for another tracerhp to go with my 2003. Handles too close together for me. Plus, you have to have both hands on controls all the time. Not with the tracer.
wriken
01-10-2006, 11:25 AM
I think you have a deeper deck on the riders.
John
I think I have a 5" deck, but thats what the HFF1748 says it has, should cut good.
John Gamba
01-10-2006, 12:07 PM
I think I have a 5" deck, but thats what the HFF1748 says it has, should cut good.
Cub cadet Told me 4" Yesterday
Envy Lawn Service
01-10-2006, 12:11 PM
How deep is the 54" deck on your rider, Its only 4" deep on the 54" walk:eek: That aint going to cut it:cry:
John,
As far as I know the black decks are the same on both. I see no reason why they would go to the trouble of designing and producing a separate deck that is an exact replica only to make it 1" shallower. Espcially not when the power frame is a brand new design... Just doesn't make sense.
My ZTR is a 60" cut. The deck on it is a true full 5" deep on the INSIDE, not 5" overall or a 5" advertisement. Also, unlike a lot of decks out there, these are actually able to USE almost all of the depth without discharging out the front of the deck. So the usable depth from the bottom of the blade to the top of the deck is closer to 5" too. I don't have exact measurements, but I'd say it's close to the UltraCut there.
But in any event, it has plenty of depth. In fact, I actually set mine up in a way that gave away some of the depth back when the leaves started falling. I was actually able to run Gator Magnums without much leaf blowout. Never had a problem in grass or heavy leaves even with the mulch kit on... and I only have 25hp.
As far as "I" am concerned, these decks are top dog as of right now with the XR-7 and Triton decks not being proven or considered YET. If eXmark can handle it in two passes, this deck can handle it in one. AND you can get the biggest baddest thing they make in a rider for less than the cost of the Lazer HP... or the biggest baddest thing they make in a hydro walkbehind for less than a small eXmark fixed deck.
To this day it still makes me sort of sick to my stomach.
Oh how I wish I could go back about 3-4 years and change one decision.
Things would have turned out so much different for me.
Plus I would still have a heck of a wad of cash in my pocket right now.
But I don't guess I would have near the appreciation for these mowers that I do now.
wriken
01-10-2006, 12:15 PM
Cub cadet Told me 4" Yesterday
I'll try and scan the paper stating 5"s
John Gamba
01-10-2006, 12:17 PM
John,
As far as I know the black decks are the same on both. I see no reason why they would go to the trouble of designing and producing a separate deck that is an exact replica only to make it 1" shallower. Espcially not when the power frame is a brand new design... Just doesn't make sense.
I think the XR7 deck on there walks is 4" deep???Ask Pj, The decks or the XR7 decks on the riders are 6"deep.
If you put the deeper decks on the walks you need to Raise the walks up with bigger tiers and Caster Forks..
Ask cub cadet. I will go and measure the deck at the dealer tomorrow or Wednesday.
John
Envy Lawn Service
01-10-2006, 12:26 PM
as mentioned above, the riders have the good pumps and wheel motors on them, but NoT the floating deck walk behinds. they use a single eaton transaxle assy (pump/wheel motor combo). its a much cheaper set up and will not last as long as the independent pump and wheel motor set ups.
Hummm... what is wrong with Eaton hydros?
I don't hear any complaints from any Ferris or Walker owners.
In fact, I hear about a lot more pump and wheel motor failures.
To be honest, I have no beef with either setup.
The main thing to me is that it's a DUAL HYDRO system, not single.
Frankly, I'm going to take this subject a step further and say that I feel a lot of walkbehind MFG's would be better off and have a more reliable product if they would switch to the Eaton hydros. I say this because it is my personal belief that all other reasons for hydro issues greatly out number those that are just genuine premature hydro component failure due to faulty materials or workmanship from the actual hydro MFG.
Units like the Eaton's are pretty 'dummy-proof' for production mower manufacturing. Just bolt on a unit rated for the application and drive it at the proper pulley speed.....
John, I believe you have a good and rather personal understanding and appreciation for what I am saying, right???
wriken
01-10-2006, 12:28 PM
well I scanned it, but its like 1700x1700 or so pixiles so I can't put it on here. I've tried to make it smaller, but to no avail. If someone wants to make it smaller for me to place on here, send me your address and I will send it to you. I will be back home later today, have to go give a couple mowing estimates :)
John Gamba
01-10-2006, 12:32 PM
Hummm... what is wrong with Eaton hydros?
John, I believe you have a good and rather personal understanding and appreciation for what I am saying, right???
Yes i do:waving:
Envy Lawn Service
01-10-2006, 12:45 PM
I think the XR7 deck on there walks is 4" deep???Ask Pj, The decks or the XR7 decks on the riders are 6"deep.
If you put the deeper decks on the walks you need to Raise the walks up with bigger tiers and Caster Forks..
Ask cub cadet. I will go and measure the deck at the dealer tomorrow or Wednesday.
John
Yeah John, Hustler made a few decisions there that I feel were not too bright. I offered many opinions and I feel they made some great decisions regarding the full size ztr lineup (other than increasing the wheelbase). But otherwise I feel they tanked.
This goes back to what you and I were discussing. I understand that walks need to be raised to achive taller cutting heights with deeper decks installed. But when you are building brand new power frames, it's just smarter to ENGINEER this into the frame design, instead of making production changes to the decks. It would be much much more cost effective and productive to ONLY produce one style of each size deck across the board.
Hopefully Hustler will do this as things progress. As of right now, only the Trimstar walks have the XR-7 'style' deck. So when they step up to put them on the hydrowalk and Superwalk, it would only make sense to use the same 54" deck as they do on the riders... or 60" if they ever step up and produce one...
All the MFG has to do is set the frame up so the mower sits a little taller. They don't have to increase production costs by using larger tires and so forth.
wriken
01-10-2006, 01:00 PM
eaton a big name in hyralics also
Envy Lawn Service
01-10-2006, 01:24 PM
Yes i do:waving:
Believe me friend... so do.
Pump and motor setups are all good and fine. I like them. But they can be trouble and they can be a LOT more complicated than most people realize. It can be ugly.
Anymore I just laugh when I read stuff about two mowers being equal because they used the same pumps and wheel motors. While that should be true, it's not. Yes, the pumps and motors themselves are equal if they are exact spec.
But that does not make two different drive SYSTEMS equal. :nono:
In reality, the rest of the drive system has a lot more bearing than most realize.
Tony12
01-10-2006, 08:43 PM
well I scanned it, but its like 1700x1700 or so pixiles so I can't put it on here. I've tried to make it smaller, but to no avail. If someone wants to make it smaller for me to place on here, send me your address and I will send it to you. I will be back home later today, have to go give a couple mowing estimates :)
using the link below go to page 4 of 14 to see the measurement for deck deepness, This is a LARGE PDF so if your on DAIL-UP, have some time on ya hands.
http://www.cubcommercial.com/servlet/GetPDF?area=LITERATURE&type=LiteratureIMAGE&ident=literatureid&id=66
Side note I tested a Lesco float deck WB with the Z-controls and loved it. I'm also looking at the Z-Two. I will either uprade my current Wright Stander to a newer Wright Stander with the higher blade tip speed OR keep it and get the 60/25 Z-Two!
John Gamba
01-10-2006, 09:23 PM
a newer Wright Stander with the higher blade tip speed OR keep it and get the 60/25 Z-Two!
But not the walk.
John
Tony12
01-11-2006, 01:27 PM
But not the walk.
John
If I decided on the walk, I 'd get the 48 float deck and keep the Stander, The W/B
Z-controls where second nature to me since its comparable to my Stander.
Rhett
01-11-2006, 09:13 PM
Do not like the Lesco floating deck< Cut is sub par. Hard to get it set up right for some reason.Tends to drift, leave uncut strips ect. Heck my mechanic who is a lesco service rep told me if I bought one I was on my own.
John Gamba
01-12-2006, 06:26 AM
Do not like the Lesco floating deck< Cut is sub par. Hard to get it set up right for some reason.Tends to drift, leave uncut strips ect. Heck my mechanic who is a lesco service rep told me if I bought one I was on my own.
Thank you Rhett. Happy New Year:waving:
I just orded a TTHP5219Kaw. Every time i look at another mower maker mower i know why i use Exmark:)
John
jrc lawncare
01-12-2006, 08:01 AM
Thank you Rhett. Happy New Year:waving:
I just orded a TTHP5219Kaw. Every time i look at another mower maker mower i know why i use Exmark:)
JohnYes!!!!!!!!!!
wriken
01-12-2006, 08:18 AM
Thank you Rhett. Happy New Year:waving:
I just orded a TTHP5219Kaw. Every time i look at another mower maker mower i know why i use Exmark:)
John
Another good machine.
K.Carothers
01-12-2006, 11:24 PM
I say spend a little more and get this one.
http://www.lesco.com/NoCompression/GetData.aspx?Type=ProdResource&ID=110
It's available in 48" also for $3,699
The deck is great.
Have it on my Z.
I looked at that at my Lesco dealer. I personally did not like it. It was bulky, heavy and I didn't have the control of the machine like I would with pistol grips.
kc
viper00085
01-13-2006, 08:30 AM
cool. I think John will be happy with the exmark tthp. I love em with the ecs handles and they cut great.
Envy Lawn Service
01-13-2006, 09:36 PM
Now let's see if it works....
Photo courtesy of our very own Wriken.
J&R Landscaping
01-13-2006, 10:17 PM
The Exmark machines with the ECS handles are really nice to operate. I have demoed a few and enjoy the ease of operation! I can't wait till I get one!
J&R Landscaping
01-13-2006, 10:19 PM
I just orded a TTHP5219Kaw. Every time i look at another mower maker mower i know why i use Exmark:)
John
Did you get the elec start or pull start? I am looking into a tthp5219kaw pull start. If you don't mind, how much did yours cost you?
Thanks
jrc lawncare
01-13-2006, 10:49 PM
Pic of my new 2005 tthp19hpkaw with electric start.....http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d25/jrservices/newmower.jpg
jrc lawncare
01-13-2006, 10:59 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d25/jrservices/scan.jpg
jrc lawncare
01-13-2006, 11:02 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d25/jrservices/pic4.jpg
John Gamba
01-13-2006, 11:32 PM
Did you get the elec start or pull start? I am looking into a tthp5219kaw pull start. If you don't mind, how much did yours cost you?
Thanks
Yes!!:waving:
John Gamba
01-13-2006, 11:34 PM
Now let's see if it works....
Photo courtesy of our very own Wriken.
I have an email with 4". I measured it today at 4".
John
Envy Lawn Service
01-14-2006, 12:08 AM
I have an email with 4". I measured it today at 4".
John
:confused: What is 'it' John?
You measured a pistol grip model?
Envy Lawn Service
01-14-2006, 12:44 AM
Since so many have asked about the 48" size, here it is in Cub clothing
http://www.cubcommercial.com/%5Cservlet%5CGetImage?area=product&type=productimage2&ident=productid&id=1289
(John, the anti-scalp brakets on the corners are 2.5" tall... this is the 5" deep deck)
jt5019
01-14-2006, 02:09 AM
How much does the Exmark TTHP48 19Kaw with the ECS controls run? I really like the look of the Lesco but am still at odds on what to get. Some people seem to love it and some dont.Lesco didnt have the floating deck hydro model in for me to test out when i stopped by but they are bringing one in for me within the next couple weeks.
Signature Landscaping1
01-14-2006, 09:03 AM
y did kawi put the exauhsts like that, horizontal. i didnt like the bulkiness of the lesco, thats why i got the belt, and the price was great.
the cub is the same
John Gamba
01-14-2006, 09:25 AM
:confused: What is 'it' John?
You measured a pistol grip model?
I will measure it Monday. It is the 54 hydro floater.
John Gamba
01-14-2006, 09:26 AM
How much does the Exmark TTHP48 19Kaw with the ECS controls run? I really like the look of the Lesco but am still at odds on what to get. Some people seem to love it and some dont.Lesco didnt have the floating deck hydro model in for me to test out when i stopped by but they are bringing one in for me within the next couple weeks.
What store in CT will you see it at??
John
John Gamba
01-14-2006, 09:27 AM
How much does the Exmark TTHP48 19Kaw with the ECS controls run? .
The 06 Model 5600:eek:
Turf Technologies
01-14-2006, 10:19 AM
I cant see how that Exmark is any less bulkier then the Lesco.
jt5019
01-14-2006, 10:29 AM
What store in CT will you see it at??
John
I only checked with the store thats closest to me and thats in Newington, CT.They had everything but the hydro floating deck model.The manager told me they will be having a open house soon (closer to spring) and all the mowers should be there.
John Gamba
01-14-2006, 10:37 AM
I only checked with the store thats closest to me and thats in Newington, CT.They had everything but the hydro floating deck model.The manager told me they will be having a open house soon (closer to spring) and all the mowers should be there.
They have the 54" floater in Indian orchard mass. It would be a drive for you but its easy to find.
John
Imran-Ali
01-15-2006, 11:40 AM
I am currently looking at a brand new lesco w/b, 48in , 15hp kawi, there is a dealer bout 15 min from me and there price is $2499.
I need some feedback on them?
Thanks Joe
Hey put $500. And buy a Scag
go to scag.com and lesco will be having big blow out sale soon fine out from you dealer
Ali
Imran-Ali
01-15-2006, 11:43 AM
15hp kawi/ 48in deck
I have a use lesco 48 WB 15 HP for sale
strictlytrini@comcast.net
Signature Landscaping1
01-15-2006, 12:23 PM
i already bought a brand new one about 2wks ago, im all set
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