ordering dimension/fert. next week. good price?

[ant]

19-0-6 25% Slow N with .10% dimension. We are ordering this product on Monday. Looking at $13.95 a bag good price?
i was thinking about getting the 0-0-7 10%dim. for the first round but itis a mini prill. any of you have problems with the mini prill out of the pg mag?

[Tscape]

yes.......

[ant]

yes to the price or yes to the mini prill through the pg mag?

[teeca]

great price. i paid $13.55bag last year for 18-3-7 25% .103 dem

[philk17088]

What area does a bag cover?

[ant]

12.5 Sq. Ft.

[turf hokie]

DO NOT get the 007. It is very dusty, you will eat as much as you spread. I learned the hard way last year. Especially if you run the Z, but the PG is bad too.

I ordered 13-2-5 30% .10 (12.5 k) very low N per K
and 19-3-6 50% .10 (12.5k)

on the early order program, your pricing is very competetive. I am in Symbiot and your are in the ballpark for what I am paying.

How much did you order to get that price?

[teeca]

i have a great rep at andersons and that was my price for 1 - ? though he ask that i p/u anything under 1 pallet. lesco was another story (if memory servs correct) they were around $16-$18 bag and that was skid price, though pendulm was cheaper (after using demension i dought i will ever go back)

[philk17088]

I'm getting 16-4-8 Barricade.43 for 21.20 per bag. Covers 15m ,$1.42 per M
That is a MESA 40% slow release.

[philk17088]

Are you doing split apps?
Does the .10 Dimension work well ?

[teeca]

i do 1/3 in R1 and 2/3 in R2 works GREAT! first year w/o foxtail (100%) and grabgrass (100%) never tried barracade though

[qps]

I'm getting 16-4-8 Barricade.43 for 21.20 per bag. Covers 15m ,$1.42 per M
That is a MESA 40% slow release.


$21.20....Yikes that sound high:eek:

[Jason Rose]

$21.20....Yikes that sound high:eek:

If I recall that's the almost the same I paid for my Lesco (about the same analysis) .43% barricade. It was PSCU. MESA is a step above that and usually much higher in cost. I'd say that's a pretty fair price. It's also a single app, not split.

[The Ranger]

using .10 or .103 demiinsion does not apply enough aia to get consistant annual grass control. you are only applying about .18lbs aia @ 12.5 coverage. To get consistant control from yr to yr you need to be @ .25lb aia and .15 deminsion will get you there. if you are using baricade (prodiomine) you need to be @ .5lb of aia. To find out how much aia you are applying multiply lbs in a bag (usually 50) times the percent of active. remember to also hit the % sign. ex 50 x .1%=.05 x 3.5 (# of bags used per acre) =.175lbs aia.

[JWTurfguy]

$13.95/bag for Dimension 19-0-6 25%ppscu is a great deal. How many skids are you going through? LESCO has a great early order deal going through the end of the year. $1500 on whatever you want (on a single transaction) gets you July 2006 payment terms and helps you avoid the price increases for next year. Lebanon and Lesco are both warning guys to expect somewhere around a 15-20% increase (largest price increase in the history of the green industry due to energy crisis, availability of raw urea, etc.). Talk to you LESCO rep and see what price you can work out. Might be worth it to you. Only catch: you have to take delivery/pick it up by 12/31.

[ns400r]

19-0-6 25% Slow N with .10% dimension. We are ordering this product on Monday. Looking at $13.95 a bag good price?
i was thinking about getting the 0-0-7 10%dim. for the first round but itis a mini prill. any of you have problems with the mini prill out of the pg mag?

Ant, how much do you need to buy to get this price?

I just took delivery of 8 pallets of .10 and paid $13.05

[JWTurfguy]

Guys, what kind of fert are we talking about? Not all fert is the same, even if the dimension is. Are we talking about LESCO, Anderson's, Lebanon, Howard Johnson, etc?????

I'd rather pay an extra dollar a bag than spread Andersons or HJ..... If you're quoting prices, tell us what you're getting.

Shane

[turf hokie]

I think if this thread is going to continue some real info should come out. Otherwise everyone is going to get confused.

It looks to me like everyone is discussing dimension from Lesco. As these are their fert combo analysis numbers that are being posted.

Ranger -- I do split app. First rd is 13-2-5 30% scu.1 dimension @ the 4.13 lbs per k
2nd app is 19-3-6 50% scu.1 dimension @ 4.13 lbs per k
That rate is total product (not AI)
This is the only way to get quality control around here. It is much cheaper to do this than to spray a bunch of acclaim.

nsr400 -- How did you get that price? what group are you in? I am asking b/c 8 pallets doesn't justify that price on it's own. I took more than that (a lot more) and it seems like everyone is saying that their prices are in the $13 dollar range. Something seems strange.

Not calling anyone out, just looking for reasons as to why everyone is seemingly in the same ballpark. Is everyone getting the same material? Or are we all looking at price and not product?

I guess I just was wondering if everyone is getting the same product for ballpark same price. And if so, is that b/c we are all buying a similar large order? or are some stores dropping their pants on smaller orders to get early orders in the system to hit budget?

[The Ranger]

turf hokie, your applying about .35lb of aia in 2 apps. Your should be able in increase your aia and make a successful pre emg in 1 app. According to the turf trials @ Ohio State .25lb aia will give consistent control and it might save you some money. Just a thought you might like to try it on some lawns. We used to use .1 or .103 and got real inconsistent control, and poor control on the edges. How about this fact....in bare soil there are 1800 crab plants, in 2 inches of grass > than 500 plants and in 3 inches of grass < 100 plants. Moral of the story, crabgrass doesn't like competition.

[turf hokie]

Ranger

I had two local guys give the higher AI all at once a shot. They said they had good results. My issue is their lawns have been in their system for much longer than my lawns. I may give it a shot for 2007.

My other issue is my split apps work for me, Change man, sometimes it is hard. Sometimes weather plays a major factor around me and one applications breaks down too quickly and we lose the back end of control.

I have done the math on the materials and labor, and realistically I can't come up with any real savings with one app vs two. My research shows that I am spending the same $ on the dimension either way. With the two apps I split the cost, with 1 app I just bulk up the first app. The only difference is I could use a better fert on round 2, say something with iron and micros.

[DUSTYCEDAR]

some numbers do seem strange with this thread so someones pulling my leg

[ns400r]

Hookie,

I should have mentioned that I am a member of Symbiot, I had to order more than $5000 worth of material and take delivery by 12/15/05

I thought everyone was talking about 19-0-6 .103 dim, thats what I use.

I sell a 2nd treatment of crab control on treatment #2, I usually use acclaim or I may use drive this season so I can combine my weed control with it.

Sorry for the confusion