Leaf Removal Trucks and Trailers

[CrewCutEnterprises]

Ok I want to see pictures of everyone leaf removal set ups. Mostly the larger set up's who can hold 10 + yards.

Also. LAWNGODFATHER or anyone with a international or large truck 20+ yard capacity and large loader, please post pics and email me

Here is my leaf removal truck about 9 yards id say.. holds about 3000 lbs of leaves

[GLS]

I would guess that ours holds about 9 cu yd.

We need to extend the chute so the leaves exit at the top of the box.

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=46000&d=1135367711

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=46001&d=1135367725

[CrewCutEnterprises]

Thanks :) Ive Seen yours before... I dont know if you remember, I asked u many questions about your ez dumper before i bought mine, Geeze Ive had it 2 years now...

Time flys by

[grass disaster]

can u pull a trailer with that thing on. how do you get your equipment to the job? maybe you have a crew i guess????

[G.M.Landscaping]

Ryan, That's one of the nicest setups I've seen on a pickup. Good job:) Any pics of the swingaway setup?

[GLS]

Equipment gets pulled with another truck. We though about mounting it on the trailer tongue, but it is much easier to maneuver the truck.

I couldn't find any real good pictures of the swing mount. It is a beefy setup, and works great. Pull the latch and swing it right out of the way. It has a 2" receiver built into the end of it, but I wouldn't hook a trailer up to it. I'm not really sure what it's meant for.

This is the best pic I could find...

[mcwlandscaping]

wow, thats realllly nice!!!

[tiedeman]

those are some nice looking setups

[zim bob the landscaper]

looking good guys keep up the good work.

[ProEagle]

thats a pretty nice setup

[Bunton Guy]

Nice leaf vac settup guys

[CompletePropertyCare]

I know the cyclone rake is much more geared to non-commercial applications but would be in any way practical to use one as a truck loader? Please no ridicule

[CrewCutEnterprises]

Im not sure it has the power, my 11 hp is underpowered as it is.

[mulcahy mowing]

I've thought about it, It would work but cyclone rake wont sell just the vac unit. You need to buy the whole unit unless you buy used.

[mdb landscaping]

heres one of our set up.....

[CrewCutEnterprises]

Thanks Matt. Thats what im talking about.

I was looking at a 2000 international with14 ft bed.

What kind of loader is that?? I havent decieded on a giant vac or a little wonder 25 hp.

Also.. love! your roll off truck, And the blue... Its nice. Very nice

[jc50292]

My word...until I saw these pictures I never considered cleaning up leaves this way. These rigs make me never want to rake and bag again.

[zim bob the landscaper]

i like that truck. and the leafloader how much HP does that loader have?

[mdb landscaping]

its got a 45 hp gas motor in it.....its an old municipal leaf vac we picked up and put a new motor in it. if you arent paying attention it will suck your leg in no problem.....

[CrewCutEnterprises]

Matt,Thats what i want, but i heard it is dangerous...Or they are dangerous like they really will suck your leg in. Do they ever get clogged with wet leaves or anything??

Today sucked, We 3 really sandy soiled properties and the leaves were wet, god it makes me hate my loader, but its better than tarping them

We normally blow them into a long pile along the side of the property in the road and then back up on them and suck them up keeping the tube straight as possible, works for us.

[Viseras lawn service]

MDB, that rig is awesome. We have a 16 horse giant vac and i thought that was pretty strong. Even though it never clogs, the only problem we have is when piles are pushed to the road or to the piles with the mowers, the leafs become packed very tight and they dont flow thru the suction end of the hose. other than that it is great.

25 hp must be amazing!! :dizzy:

[J Hisch]

I'll try to attach mine

[CrewCutEnterprises]

MDB, that rig is awesome. We have a 16 horse giant vac and i thought that was pretty strong. Even though it never clogs, the only problem we have is when piles are pushed to the road or to the piles with the mowers, the leafs become packed very tight and they dont flow thru the suction end of the hose. other than that it is great.

25 hp must be amazing!! :dizzy:


his is a 45 Gas!!:drinkup: Mines a 11 hp but I want a 25 hp:rolleyes:

Imagine a 45 hp.. yikes

[Viseras lawn service]

Eh 45?

thats a little rediculious for my cleanups lol

damn man 45 hp might take up asphalt


not to mention you better have good ear protection!! loool i am blown away by that number haha

[mdb landscaping]

we have sucked bricks through it before by accident! it only clogged once all fall. we were sucking some willow leaves and they are more like branches and it clogged up. other than that, it will take whatever you throw at it.

[Viseras lawn service]

Lol my "little" 16 hp will pull up rocks, sticks, mice, and other small critters that make their way into the piles, it never clogs except for when the piles are packed way too tight....

do you have that problem? you must not with all that power.

[Viseras lawn service]

also do you have to disconnect the chute going into the truck between each job?

[mdb landscaping]

no we dont have to disconnect anything. thats a large piece of rubber on the back of the truck where the chute goes in. its cut large enough so when we take corners it doesnt bend the tube. we do a ton of leaves. some days we fill that truck 5 times. last year we were doing a commercial shopping plaza and a guy running the leaf plow didnt see this animal......we sucked a dead frozen skunk through it!!!! it was not pretty by any means:nono:

[Viseras lawn service]

how many yards is that box? 15? we got an 8 yard box on a f350 dump, usually filled 4 times a day during the busyiest times.

I really like out front mounts as opposed to rear mount, just unhook one bungee cord and dump + you can drive right into your piles insted of trying to back in. Also alot of our accounts are setup so that we can make piles in lines because they are so big and along main roads, so we have one guy in the truck creeping along and one guy outside vacumming the pile on the sholder of the road, works very well.

but when you have 45 hp, dont matter where you mount it, you are going to go thru some serious leaves :gunsfirin payup payup

[mdb landscaping]

I dont have any pictures of it , but we have an f350 set up with a 16 hp giant vac mounted to the plow frame in the front just like you are talking about. we bring that truck along to get piles that we have to put in tight corners where the big sucker cant fit. i agree with you its great being able to just pull up to a pile. if we can, we try to push to a road or spot where we can use the big truck because its a lot quicker.

[CrewCutEnterprises]

here is a picture of the mess ours makes.

We have sucked up moles rats etc, thats messy

[CrewCutEnterprises]

here is a picture

[Viseras lawn service]

haha our trucks make that mess too lol. make sure you turn off the heat/AC or you will have that in the cab! lool countless times i have either done that or left the window open :gunsfirin

[mdb landscaping]

just a quick tip....if you make your box fully enclosed with wood, and put a small vent on the top with a piece of sheet metal over it directing to an area where you would like to vent, you can prevent totally covering your truck everytime you suck leaves.

[Viseras lawn service]

yup we got a 2ft wide vent across the top front of the box, all the dust still flies around lol.

[CrewCutEnterprises]

Yea I have thought of that, but my set up takes 10 mins to put on. I willprobably make new box for next year if i dont buy a new truck for leaves

[Viseras lawn service]

f350 dumps are niceee.

can put a nice leaf loader/box on there along with bigger sanders and plows :payup

[scaper27]

Here are some of mine

[CrewCutEnterprises]

hey how do you like that 12 ft dump?? Is it a versa rack?? I looked into those, just wanted to know how you like it. Very nice set up, and the piles, its the same way we do it :)

[scaper27]

that body is a Rugby body. It has a 4ft side door also, perfect for pallets. I like the barn doors and the small tailgate that opens down or swings from the bottom

[CrewCutEnterprises]

yea its a dejana landscaper rugby body, ilooked it up,

I love the 2 way tailgate if you spread gravel fo regraveling driveways without a loader.

Either way its nice, how many yards of mulch will it hold, howmany pallets of sod?

[scaper27]

I could hold 2 pallets of sod.

I have had almost 20 yards of mulch in there when I put the rack on top.

Very happy with it.

[cedarcroft]

I have a 1998 International 4700 with a 16' body that has 5' sides, a two way tail gate and swing out barn doors on top. I rented a 25 hp little wonder trailer mounted leaf vac this fall and I got ALOT of leaves on it. the leaf loader shreds the leaves 3/1 so I can really pack them in.

BTW, McGovern. Your brother hauled my friends car to Atlanta last month. I am in Huntington, grew up in Greenlawn,went to Harborfields.

[paponte]

We have a 14' grain body cabover with a 25yd capacity box, and a 65hp wisconsin giant vac we use as a dedicated leaf truck. Sorta out of season for it, but you can see the two in this pic. Just not all set up. :)

[zim bob the landscaper]

looks awesome guys like the trucks alot.

[FinerCutslawnCare]

Pretty sweet setup you got yourself there!!!

[CrewCutEnterprises]

We have a 14' grain body cabover with a 25yd capacity box, and a 65hp wisconsin giant vac we use as a dedicated leaf truck. Sorta out of season for it, but you can see the two in this pic. Just not all set up. :)


My next truck for this year is going to be a 99 or so 4700 international with a 14 ft body. seems like a great alll around vehicle. Is that cab over 4x4??what brand is it, whats the gvw, thats my problem, is if i get a 25,500 gvw truck i cant tow a trailer without my cdl.

Thanks alot, i looked at the isuzu ftr too, they seem ok

[paponte]

IThe cabover is a UD 1800HD. It's not 4wd, we don't really need it since it holds a spreader. It is 18K GVW, specifically for the reason you stated. We have a 14' F700 with a 25,500gvw as well. :)

[cedarcroft]

the Itternational 4700 is rated for 25,500 lbs. you don't need a cdl but if you are hauling a machine and trailer, you will be VERY close to being overweight. in other words, you probably can't put much of a load on it if you are hauling also.

[CrewCutEnterprises]

the Itternational 4700 is rated for 25,500 lbs. you don't need a cdl but if you are hauling a machine and trailer, you will be VERY close to being overweight. in other words, you probably can't put much of a load on it if you are hauling also.

If its rated for 25,500, and you hook up even a 1000 lb trailer with both empty, you over over 26k, and require a cdl by DOT standards.

Example. if i derated to 22,500, we could tow a 10 or 12 ft 3000 gvw trailer
If i derated to 18,500 we could tow a 7000 gvw trailer.

Really the only trailer we would haul behind that is our 10x5 with our leaf loader mounted on it and our blowers gas cans etc, Or we will send out the pickup and trailer to do the leaves and the "big" international to suck them up.

Im other wards if i got a 25,500 lb international and we bought a giant vac tow behind leaf loader, technically your combined weight is over 26,000. So once again you need a cdl


Abut the UD. How is is towing? How is it plowing, anyone ever put a plow on an international??

[TerraVenture]

Crewcut.

Unless your state has stricter DOT standards than the The federal dot standards you can tow a 10000gvw trailer behind a 26000 gvw trailer.

The federal dot rules are you must have a cdl when the truck is 26001 gvw or greater or the combination of truck with a trailer over 10001 gvw is 26001 gvw or greater.

Here are some examples of when you need a cdl

EX 1 - Truck 28000gvw trailer 7000gvw - cdl needed because truck has a gvw greater than 26001

Ex2 - Truck 17500 trailer 12000 - cdl needed because trailer is over 10001 and combination is over 26001 - this is my situation.

Ex3 truck 25500 gvw trailer 10000gvw cdl not needed because truck is not over 26001 and trailer is not 10001 or greater

[CrewCutEnterprises]

just called dmv and MDOT

ok, so
1 26001 need cdl
2 10,001 gvw trailer, need dot number and dot physical information/certification card
3 19000 gvw 550 and 10,000 lb trailer need cdl
4 8000 lb truck and 7000 lb trailer, need dot numer and certification. (anything over 10,001 needs dot number in MD)
5 22,500 gvw truck and 3000 gvw trailer. under 26,000 so no cdl needed. but you need a dot number and driver needs med cert. card

That was what i got when i called...I hate md

[cedarcroft]

the actual weight on the International empty is 14,800.
Here's a picture of my truck

[TerraVenture]

Is that a homade body. If not who is the manufacturer

[cedarcroft]

A local company on LI called Danisi makes the body. it has the combo tailgate and the swingout barn doors. very well made. they build and ship all over.
www.danisi.com
I think that is the website. if you google danisi trucks, it comes up.

[TWUllc]

just called dmv and MDOT

ok, so
1 26001 need cdl
2 10,001 gvw trailer, need dot number and dot physical information/certification card
3 19000 gvw 550 and 10,000 lb trailer need cdl
4 8000 lb truck and 7000 lb trailer, need dot numer and certification. (anything over 10,001 needs dot number in MD)
5 22,500 gvw truck and 3000 gvw trailer. under 26,000 so no cdl needed. but you need a dot number and driver needs med cert. card

That was what i got when i called...I hate md

CrewCut, do you have a InTER, or InTRA state DOT#?? If you get the InTRA-state DOT#, it avoids a TON of bullshit. This is coming from the rep I spoke to when I called the DOT.

[zim bob the landscaper]

i like the dump bodys for the trucks.

[CrewCutEnterprises]

CrewCut, do you have a InTER, or InTRA state DOT#?? If you get the InTRA-state DOT#, it avoids a TON of bullshit. This is coming from the rep I spoke to when I called the DOT.


Nope I have a USDOT NUMBER.

I originally signed up for inter. then when they called for the audit, they corrected me and kept me intra. saves alot of bs. I signed up for my # online and it was a little confusing.

But let me tell you in annapolis, ive seen dot 3 times this week. Ouch.. Glad they pulled people over when i went by :)

[CrewCutEnterprises]

the actual weight on the International empty is 14,800.
Here's a picture of my truck


PERFECT!!!!!

How long is the body? How long is it? 22 or 23 ft overall??A stupid quesiton, but i need to know if it will fit in my driveway. What motor, any problems, quirks etc, I plan on buying one this summer.

here is the thread on that
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=130099

Thank you in advance

[cedarcroft]

my truck has the Intl dt466 motor. it is a wet sleeve deisel that will run for 400k if properly maintained. the box is 16' but I don't know what the overall length of the truck is. it is big though. its in my side driveway now, but I am moving it to a yard because I think its rude for the neighbors to have to look at this giant truck all day. the good thing about this truck is that you really can't grow out of it. it may be a bit of overkill, but you will always be able to use it for something and during fall cleanups, it pays for itself.

[paponte]

the Itternational 4700 is rated for 25,500 lbs. you don't need a cdl but if you are hauling a machine and trailer, you will be VERY close to being overweight. in other words, you probably can't put much of a load on it if you are hauling also.

Wrong! NYS requires a class C for anything 18,001-26,000lbs. A class B for anything 26,001lbs and over. Either of these licenses will allow you to pull a trailer up to 10,000lbs. Any trailers 10,001lbs and over require a class A tractor trailer, truck/trailer combination. Lets not confuse GVW with GCVW.

Also that truck is registered commercial (the only way to do it), it is required to be lettered with the company information. You also need a USDOT#, and file for a HUT permit. :nono:

[paponte]

the Itternational 4700 is rated for 25,500 lbs. you don't need a cdl but if you are hauling a machine and trailer, you will be VERY close to being overweight. in other words, you probably can't put much of a load on it if you are hauling also.

Wrong! NYS requires a class C for anything 18,001-26,000lbs. A class B for anything 26,001lbs and over. Either of these licenses will allow you to pull a trailer up to 10,000lbs. Any trailers 10,001lbs and over require a class A tractor trailer, truck/trailer combination. Let's not confuse GVW and GCVW.

Also that truck is registered commercial (the only way to do it), it is required to be lettered with the company information. You also need a USDOT#, and file for a HUT permit. :nono:

[cedarcroft]

I am getting the truck painted and lettered, so I will be adding the DOT# at that time. as for the CDL thing. I may be wrong but I was told that they changed it and you don't need a CDL anymore if it is under 26k.
on a side note, I was also told that any vehicle over 6500lbs will require a dot# and registration starting in june. that means large suv's (excursions, suburbans etc) will need to be dot compliant

[paponte]

Currently the law is "any commercial vehicle over 10K lbs must have a usdot#. I believe they are going to change it to any commercial vehicle.As far as the cdl, you can look online, but I am right about that. Alot of people get false information and it ends up costing them some serious $$. Just letting you know. :)

[JSMLAWNCARE]

This is the best pic, I could find with the leaf box

[zim bob the landscaper]

^ looks good how much can it hold.

[qualitylawnmanagement]

This is the best pic, I could find with the leaf box


Sweet rig man! I'm in the process of buying a 250 just like that ext cab long bed with the V10. Is your the 5.4 or the 6.8? What mpg are you getting hauling the trailer? What size trailer is that? How do you like you truck craft dump insert? Got anymore pictures of your rig?

[JSMLAWNCARE]

The box holds atleast 4 yrds of mulch, that is all I've put in it so far. I think I can get 5 in it though. Next year I'll add another two feet at the top for leaves.

I would think about getting a v10, twice. Mine is a F350 w/ a V10. I get approx. 7.5 mpg with most gas stations. However, I get approx 8.5 mpg at most exxons though.

[CrewCutEnterprises]

Here is mine, its a 5.4 liter i get about 12 mpg loaded maybe 13 to 14 highway. Mine holds 5 yards. or 5.5 if you mound it

I have a 99 f350 diesel that will get 17 to 20 mpg. but diesel is expensive

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25727&d=1094685421

[qualitylawnmanagement]

The box holds atleast 4 yrds of mulch, that is all I've put in it so far. I think I can get 5 in it though. Next year I'll add another two feet at the top for leaves.

I would think about getting a v10, twice. Mine is a F350 w/ a V10. I get approx. 7.5 mpg with most gas stations. However, I get approx 8.5 mpg at most exxons though.

My dad's company uses six trucks years (1999-2004 v10's) hauling trailers around, So the power is what I'm looking for and more cab room. Your fuel milage is close to what my 250 5.8L is getting.

[qualitylawnmanagement]

Here is mine, its a 5.4 liter i get about 12 mpg loaded maybe 13 to 14 highway. Mine holds 5 yards. or 5.5 if you mound it

I have a 99 f350 diesel that will get 17 to 20 mpg. but diesel is expensive

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25727&d=1094685421

Nice truck crew! The truck I'm looking at is just like that one 1999 ford 250 supercab longbed but black with the 6.8L. Why in the middle of your truck look like it's bout to cave in on some of your pictures? Do ez-dumper insert really put that much stress on the frame? Also how do you like plowing with this long of truck? I'll be doing around 35 residentcial's alot are tight drive and some I can just drive stright threw the drive and pile the snow off to the sides and bout 5 commercials propertys and it seems to like a long truck.
Also how big of a plow should I get for this truck?If I were planning on keeping the truck for 5 or 6 years then yea I would go with diesel.

[CrewCutEnterprises]

its big plowing, i dont do residentials.

i've hauled 2.5 tons of gravel 40 or 50 times in the truck and i think i pinched the corner in the front of the bed. It's a work truck but its not the dump inserts problem its too much weight.

This is my plow truck

http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=45510&d=1134257049

[zim bob the landscaper]

looks good it looks like u need to scrap up the rest of that snow lol.

[Prideland]

I know there are a ton of variables, but here goes. On the guys running the 8ft dump inserts with sides, and filling with approximately 7-9 yards of debris, would that be an average size city lot? I will find out myself soon enough, but, any foresight would be helpful.

[JSMLAWNCARE]

Your right, to many variables. It really depends on the loader and how much it is chops the leaves. It also depends on the size of the trees, size of the leaves, qty of the trees

[CrewCutEnterprises]

Your right, to many variables. It really depends on the loader and how much it is chops the leaves. It also depends on the size of the trees, size of the leaves, qty of the trees


yup... some 4 acre props i have fit in there, on the 3rd service

[naturalimage]

what out for all cats

[northeastpropertymgmt]

the company i work for we have a 460 or a 4700 cant remember which and we plow with it it has a 10 foot panther worst plow but it works for the big lots

[PORTER 05]

CREW CUT ENTERPRISES, wat kind of load cover are you useing with that dump insert, oooks like it has some metal poles or somthing very nice where can i get one and how much?????