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Ric3077
01-18-2006, 03:21 PM
Hey everyone, I just bought a new trailer yesterday...it is going to take about 2 weeks to build...I decided to make a TUBE steel frame for the gates and put a piece of angle only where the gate meets the road (to create a better start for the ramp)...anyway my question is...Has anyone had problems with 2X2 tube 14 gauge braking on them when going up and down the ramps with a large mower over the years? I am wondering if I should A. Change the gates to ANGLE steel so that it gives more or B. split the gate into 2 halves, or C. Just keep it the way I ordered it...please let me know your thoughts...thanks!

Here is some details on the rest of the trailer"

Custom 15 foot trailer
2 foot dove tail
Extra wide (6'10'' instead of 6'4'')
treated pine flooring
4 foot high walls all around covered in mesh
Dual Axle
1 axle has brakes
New tires and wheels
Customer lockable trimmer rack
Rear gate
Side gate
DOT package (breakaway kit, red/white safety tape around outside)
Gray paint with red pin stripe
Tarp roller welded to the front top of the trailer
Solid tarp


All that for $2100 flat...pretty good deal I thought...
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lawnspecialties
01-18-2006, 03:49 PM
I have a 20 ft. landscape trailer with two 5K axles. I use it for hauling the tractor (about 3500lbs.). When it was my only trailer, I also used it for all my mower hauling needs. It looks just like a "normal" lawn maintenance trailer with angle iron rails and gate. What I had done to insure no problems with driving up the tractor was two things:
1) Had my dealer make two "knees" to support the gate. When the gate is laid down, these knees almost touch the ground. They're welded to the gate at the base and about halfway up the gate. When the tractor or mower start up the gate, the weight pushes it down but the knees hit ground and stop the push. This also keeps the weight off the pins and rear of the trailer while putting it on the knees and ground instead.
2) Look at where your mower wheels hit the gate. Have another piece of angle iron support welded to the gate along the track of your wheels. The steel mesh will not sag from the weight if this is done. The knees can also be welded here as well.
I've had this trailer for two years hauling mowers and tractor. The gate is as sound now as the day it was purchased. Since it's all angle iron, its not as heavy as tubing, also. Good Luck

cochino12
01-18-2006, 04:48 PM
Hey everyone, I just bought a new trailer yesterday...it is going to take about 2 weeks to build...I decided to make a TUBE steel frame for the gates and put a piece of angle only where the gate meets the road (to create a better start for the ramp)...anyway my question is...Has anyone had problems with 2X2 tube 14 gauge braking on them when going up and down the ramps with a large mower over the years? I am wondering if I should A. Change the gates to ANGLE steel so that it gives more or B. split the gate into 2 halves, or C. Just keep it the way I ordered it...please let me know your thoughts...thanks!

Here is some details on the rest of the trailer"

Custom 15 foot trailer
2 foot dove tail
Extra wide (6'10'' instead of 6'4'')
treated pine flooring
4 foot high walls all around covered in mesh
Dual Axle
1 axle has brakes
New tires and wheels
Customer lockable trimmer rack
Rear gate
Side gate
DOT package (breakaway kit, red/white safety tape around outside)
Gray paint with red pin stripe
Tarp roller welded to the front top of the trailer
Solid tarp


All that for $2100 flat...pretty good deal I thought...
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Great price! where'd you order it from? post some pics when it's done

Ric3077
01-18-2006, 06:45 PM
For some reason I put CUTOMER trimmer rack it should say CUSTOM not Customer ...also it has the heavy duty fenders too...I will definatley put some pics up when it is done!!! I got it at JNN Enterprises here in MO.
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LawnScapers of Dayton
01-19-2006, 06:51 AM
My welder uses 1x2 tubing for gates. With 7 tubes between the ground edge and the hinge edge. He says it is just as strong as 2x2 and lighter. I have never broken the gate he made me.

Derek

South Florida Lawns
01-19-2006, 04:41 PM
When you get it, I would love to see some pics.

Sounds reasonably priced too.

Ric3077
01-19-2006, 07:53 PM
Pics will be up the day it comes home!!! I can't wait!:blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4:

cochino12
01-20-2006, 12:24 AM
I cant seem to find a website for your dealer, everything here in Co. is SO expensive would you mind posting a phone number?

Ric3077
01-20-2006, 08:55 AM
The website is www.JJNENT.com tell them Ric from St. Louis sent you!:blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4:

cochino12
02-06-2006, 05:16 PM
Hey Ric, I just got off the phone w/JC at JJENT and will be sending a check off to him in the morning!!! Any news on your trailer?

Ric3077
02-06-2006, 05:26 PM
Hey Ric, I just got off the phone w/JC at JJENT and will be sending a check off to him in the morning!!! Any news on your trailer?

Right on! That's great! What did you end up getting? And how are you going to pick it up? Are they delivering it? What's your name? I wanna see if he'll toss in a free spare tire or something for the referral! Thanks dude! -Ric :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4:

Ric3077
02-06-2006, 05:35 PM
Also, the update on my trailer is that it is done, but they are waiting on the tarp roller and the tarp to come in...they expect it tomorrow sometime...so I should be heading out there to pick it up in the next day or so. I can't wait! :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4:

cochino12
02-06-2006, 05:36 PM
I ended up getting basicly the same thing as yours but only 13-1/2 ft long and w/2 ft mesh sides, rear gate spring assist I have another trailer that I typically use for leafs/etc. I am not sure about the tarp roller though, $300 seems to be a little much. I ended up just a few bucks over $1700 which is about $1100 cheaper that anything I found in town here, plus it gives me a excuse to head to St. Louis and visit some friends :drinkup: . Yours done yet?

Adam
beyond the green

Ric3077
02-06-2006, 05:44 PM
Right on! see above for the status on my trailer (sent update as you were posting) -ric

cochino12
02-06-2006, 06:17 PM
Do you know how that tarp system works? Is it similar to a tarp system on a semi trailer?

TPnTX
02-06-2006, 06:26 PM
I would go with 2 x 2 x 1/8 angle iron before I did 18 gauge tube.

Ric3077
02-06-2006, 07:49 PM
I wouldn't go with 18 gauge either but 14 gauge is what I got. :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4:

TPnTX
02-07-2006, 07:51 AM
I meant 14 gauge. Still I would reccommend 1/8 angle.

scott's turf
02-07-2006, 02:26 PM
To actually compare the strentghts of the two shapes you need to calculate the moment of inertia differences between 2" angle 1/8 thick and the 14 gauge square tubing.

The square tubing calculates to roughly .400 in^4
The angle calculates to roughly .333 in^4

Therefor the tubing is actually 20% stronger than the angle

Ric3077
02-07-2006, 02:52 PM
Adam, I just now saw your tarp question...it is different than a tarp on a semi...it doesn't automatically fold out across the trailer, you have to physically wind and unwind the tarp with a hand lever on top of the front of the trailer. I got it mainly so when I do cleanups leaves aren't blowing out of the back of my trailer, and when I load it with mulch I can tarp it off and if I want to keep my equipment dry in the rain or something I can tarp it off too. When is your trailer gonna be done? I think I am picking mine up tomorrow...I will let you know! I just had a new hitch installed today...$509 with the brake control...kinda expensive but I needed it done. :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4:

cochino12
02-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Well I am not sure when he will be done but he said I should be able to pick it up by the 24th. make sure you get some pics up as soon as you get that think home ha ha. What do you think about the trimmer rack he uses? Kinda hard to order stuff over the phone, did you see his shop first?

Ric3077
02-07-2006, 03:30 PM
Yes I spent a day in Sikeston a few weeks ago when I was shopping for my trailer...I hit over 10 different shops there...Some had real nice shops but were way overpriced and rude, some didn't have a clue as to how to quote my custom trailer...JJN Enterprises was the only place that was 1. Nice 2. Took the time to get everything right on my quote 3. Had a very good price (the best I found) and 4. Was honest about everything. They have a great shop...everything they need and nothing they don't. I even met a bunch of teh welders, all nice guys, all hard workers and were showing me techniques on how they are going to build mine. Once they make the trailer it is sold, unlike some of the places there where they makes hundreds and let them rust on a big field. They are the only place I would recommend and I took a ton of time deciding. As far as teh trimmer racks, they seem like the best there is, the are the lockable ones from REDNECK TRAILER. I will put some pics of the trailer up as soon as it gets home, thanks! :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4:

cochino12
02-09-2006, 07:39 PM
pick it up yet?

Ric3077
02-09-2006, 10:00 PM
Not yet...the tarp is on back order..the trailer is built but they are still waiting on the tarp...I am hoping by tomorrow or Monday they will call me to tell me the tarp is in...the second they call I am going to get it. :blob1: :blob4:

Ric3077
02-10-2006, 03:39 PM
The tarp came in today! Jc told me that Monday they are real booked so I am going to swing down there on Tuesday, so I should have some pics up by Wednesday! :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4: :blob1: :blob4:

cochino12
02-19-2006, 12:28 AM
Hey Rick, I sent you a pm:)

ajordan193
02-19-2006, 03:32 PM
lets see pics of that trailer. i just sent them an e-mail seeing what they can do for me on a 16 footer.

Ric3077
02-23-2006, 12:17 AM
I have been REAl busy with designing door hangers, magnets, etc have been real busy so sorry for the delay...I got the trailer last week...It looks great here are some pics!

Ric3077
02-23-2006, 12:22 AM
and some more...

cochino12
02-23-2006, 12:23 AM
Looks awesome! what kind of latches are on the gates? Do you have a another picture of the racks, ? I will be out there monday to pick mine up.

Ric3077
03-22-2006, 06:22 PM
How bout some pics cochino!!!!! :clapping:

Daner
03-22-2006, 06:51 PM
What i used on my ramps/Gates...Was sqr tubing...The back ramp is 2" the side ramp is 1-1/2...Iput the c-c at 4 ' on the back for the skid steer
With my experience the angel would be ok for most lawn mowers...but not a skid steer un less you use 2 x 1/4
Best of luck with your new trailer

Ric3077
03-22-2006, 07:03 PM
Rigt on, makes sense thanks Daner! :waving:

emil35
03-27-2006, 02:48 AM
How do you like the trailer? I'm thinking either one like yours or an enclosed. Does it keep everything dry? Thanks