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Microbe
01-21-2006, 07:44 AM
What would be the best method of preparation for liquid tea applications on lawns? I read that your supposed to use BUBBLERS in your tanks or something? This whole bubbler organic tea spraying is catching me. Lets just grow a lawn organically hydroponic next LOL.... I've read about soooo many different types of organic concentrates that I feel would work amazing, but there is nothing documented on there lawn ability. There are products like Liquid Karma, Budswell which is high Phos bat guano, I dunno, maxicrop, all these top of the line organic or almost fully organic products. Just curious what people think about them? I know for sure they grow fantasic plants!:cool:

NattyLawn
01-21-2006, 11:53 AM
Microbe, it sounds like your growing herbs rather than turf with some of those products you mentioned!
This is right up nocutting's alley, but I'll seee what I can do. If you're going to tank mix the tea, you need agitation or oxygen to keep the microbes alive. The beneficial microbes can live about 4 hours without oxygen, and once they run out of air, they go anaerobic, which in short, is not good.
We don't use any types of guanos or bird excrement. Fish, seaweed, humate, tea and molasses our some of our components.

muddstopper
01-21-2006, 11:46 PM
The life span of microbes is about 1 1/2 minutes, in an un-oxygenated enviroment. teas last about 6 minutes, not hours.

NattyLawn
01-22-2006, 12:42 AM
The life span of microbes is about 1 1/2 minutes, in an un-oxygenated enviroment. teas last about 6 minutes, not hours.

Looks like we both are right. Taken from the Soil Food Web.
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/03_about_us/approach_pgs/c_03a_aerated_tea.html

If the aeration is turned off, it typically takes some time for the organisms to use up the air, and plunge into anaerobic conditions. A truly stable tea would only slowly use up oxygen and go anaerobic, usually in about 5 to 6 hours. But if the tea is not in a stable condition, then when aeration is turned off, oxygen levels will plunge within mere minutes to low, anaerobic levels.

Microbe
01-22-2006, 09:12 AM
So basically... If you don't have an earth tea brewer machiene that costs thousands of dollars, you can't make true tea? I find it hard to believe.... They also had a product that was a 100 sprayer with an aeration system to keep the tea fresh...

You can't take bat and sea bird guano and simmer it... make a concentrate... then mix it with lets say 50 gallons... or the proper ratio and use it? Why does this whole organic thing have to be so much money? If I had a huge business... I would mabye purchase a product like the earth tea machiene.... but still... I don't even know were I'd store it to make tea...

Microbe
01-22-2006, 09:16 AM
Also... if you use fish as your choice, doesn't it smell to high hell? I mean if you were to use that tea in june or july... wouldn't it smell up the block? I feel that if you used something other than fish, you can still get the same results. Why fish? Why not, a mix of guano and earth worm castings... I would use the fish, but I"m not sure how my customers will react to the smell.....

NattyLawn
01-23-2006, 08:23 AM
You can buy a 5 gallon brewer for about 100 bucks.

Fish is only one of many ingredients in the formula. Fish hydrolysate does have a faint fish odor, and if left to sit overnight, will smell real bad. We also produce a beneficial anaerobic bacteria that neutralizes the fish smell, leaving behind an apple cider aroma. Also, you have to consider ph instead of just mixing tea with guano...You don't think guano will smell either? You need to do some research instead of just firing questions.

Microbe
01-24-2006, 09:18 AM
I want one of those aeration tank sprayers.. Those look rediculous. It actually mixes the tank and areates it... yea I do need to research a bit more... seems so cutting edge for organix... If I was a homeowner I'd want a treatment or two.

tadhussey
10-08-2007, 01:01 PM
So basically... If you don't have an earth tea brewer machiene that costs thousands of dollars, you can't make true tea? I find it hard to believe.... They also had a product that was a 100 sprayer with an aeration system to keep the tea fresh...

You can't take bat and sea bird guano and simmer it... make a concentrate... then mix it with lets say 50 gallons... or the proper ratio and use it? Why does this whole organic thing have to be so much money? If I had a huge business... I would mabye purchase a product like the earth tea machiene.... but still... I don't even know were I'd store it to make tea...

There are many companies that make quality brewers, though you may only need one that makes 5 gallons of tea. If you tea is high in beneficial biology, you may dilute it up to 5 to 1. That gives you 30 gallons of tea to work with. There is a lot of science that goes into making quality compost tea, so make sure the company you buy from has done the research and can show you tests that show consisent results that are above or within range for their tea.

Good luck!