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leadarrows
01-23-2006, 09:04 PM
The emerald ash borer has invaded Carmel. “Thousands of ash trees in Carmel and surrounding towns could die in coming years as the larvae of an Asian beetle munch their way through the area, state Department of Natural Resources officials said Friday.”

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060121/NEWS01/601210439/1006

You need to identify which of your clients might be affected and educate them that they may lose there Ash trees. This way you won’t inadvertently be blamed and you will be who they think of when it’s time for them to come down. Even if you’re not comfortable with doing the work yourself now is the time to set up a deal with an arborist and either sub out the work or position yourself to make some referral profits. It’s sad to see these trees go but go they will so here’s your heads up..

Bulldog26
01-23-2006, 09:31 PM
Good to see your ready. Up North here it's hit hard. My mother has worked with the state and DNR for the last three years trying to stop this. Thier is a treatment they can have done to help. I have been told it cost $150 and up depending on the size of the tree and it must be done yearly or bi-yearly. I think they have decided not to set trap trees and cut. If they were doing that you would see some nice trees come down fast. I have seen entier wood destroyed by this little bug. They have been setting trap trees (cutting a band all the way around the tree and applying a material that it attract the bug to see if thier in the area) Those of you that have not yet had this bug enter your state do what you can to keep it out. DO NOT TRANSPORT FIRE WOOD ACROSS STATE LINES!!!!! Sorry to go on and on but it's sad to see so many trees being go.
bt

Travel'n Trees
01-24-2006, 01:34 AM
We planted 400 autumn purples there in carmel last year. All atleast 7in diameter. For the Founder of Dura Homes.

Bulldog26
01-24-2006, 10:13 AM
I can't see the state going though Carmel putting orange x's on trees in some of those area's. I wouldn't want to be the person going door to door telling them their going to be cutting thier tree down in the fall.

Grassmechanic
01-24-2006, 02:15 PM
Good to see your ready. Up North here it's hit hard. My mother has worked with the state and DNR for the last three years trying to stop this. Thier is a treatment they can have done to help. I have been told it cost $150 and up depending on the size of the tree and it must be done yearly or bi-yearly.
Merit is working pretty good up here (We're in the core zone for the last 10 years). Injection is best and the treatment should be done on a preventative basis. Once a tree is infected with EAB, you might as well get out the chainsaw.

Bulldog26
01-26-2006, 12:17 AM
Merit is working pretty good up here (We're in the core zone for the last 10 years). Injection is best and the treatment should be done on a preventative basis. Once a tree is infected with EAB, you might as well get out the chainsaw.
I'm glad to hear it's working. Am I correct on the cost? I wish it would kill them. It really has started to move across the state here. What else can I tell my customers about treatment and what kind of cert. do you have to have to apply it? Thanks for any help.
bt

Grassmechanic
01-26-2006, 08:52 AM
I'm glad to hear it's working. Am I correct on the cost? I wish it would kill them. It really has started to move across the state here. What else can I tell my customers about treatment and what kind of cert. do you have to have to apply it? Thanks for any help.
bt
Yes, Merit is a little pricy. It can cost upwards of $150/tree, but Merit (Imidicloprid) is coming off of it's patent and will be manufactured by other companies as a generic. The price should come down then. Treatment needs to be done BEFORE infestation. Treatment will need to be done yearly. Michigan Dept. of Ag is recommending that only trees with aesthetic or landscape value be treated. You can get more info at www.michigan.gov/mda This pest is likely to cause damage to the Ash trees of America on a scale larger than that of the Dutch Elm Disease. We've lost millions of Ash in S.E. Michigan, and I've been cutting down Ash on my personal property as a result.

Bulldog26
01-26-2006, 10:02 AM
Yes, Merit is a little pricy. It can cost upwards of $150/tree, but Merit (Imidicloprid) is coming off of it's patent and will be manufactured by other companies as a generic. The price should come down then. Treatment needs to be done BEFORE infestation. Treatment will need to be done yearly. Michigan Dept. of Ag is recommending that only trees with aesthetic or landscape value be treated. You can get more info at www.michigan.gov/mda This pest is likely to cause damage to the Ash trees of America on a scale larger than that of the Dutch Elm Disease. We've lost millions of Ash in S.E. Michigan, and I've been cutting down Ash on my personal property as a result.

Great information! Sorry to hear you have lost trees. Keep people informed.
bt

Dixie Rob
01-26-2006, 10:44 AM
Some kind of Japanease bettle attacked here in Tennessee a couple of years back eating pines I think. It was definatly a mess.

Be sure to keep them up there with ya :)

Grassmechanic
01-26-2006, 11:08 AM
Some kind of Japanease bettle attacked here in Tennessee a couple of years back eating pines I think. It was definatly a mess.

Be sure to keep them up there with ya :)
These little buggers take no prisoners. Keep an eye out for them, they're coming to a neighborhood near you! Thank the Chinese for sending them here!:gunsfirin

True Cut Lawn Maintenance
01-26-2006, 01:15 PM
Adams county is going to award a contract i beleive (if im recalling correctly) to down all the Ash trees within the city of Decatur, that is one contract id LOVE to have if i was a arborist.

JB1
01-26-2006, 01:22 PM
Some kind of Japanease bettle attacked here in Tennessee a couple of years back eating pines I think. It was definatly a mess.

Be sure to keep them up there with ya :)


Was up at Clingsman Dome in the smokey's was a shame what the pests done, not many standing trees,

sheshovel
01-26-2006, 01:47 PM
We planted 400 autumn purples there in carmel last year. All atleast 7in diameter. For the Founder of Dura Homes.

This is why is is always bad practice to plant just one type of tree in quantity,should a pest or disease
come around that attacks only that type of tree..well then your in for a big loss with nothing left to grow
on.Planting a wide variety of tree's not only cuts these losses..but helps to keep the pest or disease in check because it is far easier to contain and to treat 10 or twelve infested tree's in an area..than it is to treat 400 tree's and get a handle on the situation.I too am sorry for your loss

Grassmechanic
01-26-2006, 02:42 PM
Adams county is going to award a contract i beleive (if im recalling correctly) to down all the Ash trees within the city of Decatur, that is one contract id LOVE to have if i was a arborist.
Be careful what you wish for! Around here, the Dept. of Ag is requiring ALL of the trees to be chipped to a size of 1/2", even if it requires re-chipping. Then, there are very few, select sites where the chips can be hauled to and disposed of. Most of the tree removal operations are shying away from the contracts -too much hassle to meet requirements.

PSUturf
01-27-2006, 12:09 AM
Was at an EAB seminar in Madison today with govt and UW reps. Wisconsin is putting plans together to try to salvage as much ash lumber as possible when the ash borer gets here. We haven't found one yet in WI and they have already accepted the fact that it is coming regardless of any quarantine efforts in other states.

Bulldog26
01-27-2006, 08:43 AM
Be careful what you wish for! Around here, the Dept. of Ag is requiring ALL of the trees to be chipped to a size of 1/2", even if it requires re-chipping. Then, there are very few, select sites where the chips can be hauled to and disposed of. Most of the tree removal operations are shying away from the contracts -too much hassle to meet requirements.

IN is not requiring the chipping. They are de-barking all the trees then the home owner can sell of wood. The bug is contained in the bark and not in the hardwood. It would still suck to de-bark that many trees.

Grassmechanic
01-27-2006, 10:35 AM
Was at an EAB seminar in Madison today with govt and UW reps. Wisconsin is putting plans together to try to salvage as much ash lumber as possible when the ash borer gets here. We haven't found one yet in WI and they have already accepted the fact that it is coming regardless of any quarantine efforts in other states.
It won't be long. It's in the western part of the U.P. of Michigan now.

Grassmechanic
01-27-2006, 10:42 AM
IN is not requiring the chipping. They are de-barking all the trees then the home owner can sell of wood. The bug is contained in the bark and not in the hardwood. It would still suck to de-bark that many trees.The beetle came from China in pallets and shipping crates in the early 90's. Yes, they do their damage just below the bark, thus killing the tree, but the little buggers can and do bore into the wood. We cannot move ANY ash wood from the quarantine areas in MI, and the EAB is still spreading like crazy. There was also another study that was completed this past year that they can fly much further than the 1/2 mile that was prevoiusly thought.:dizzy:

PSUturf
01-27-2006, 02:06 PM
A MSU study that was mentioned at the Madison seminar indicated they could fly about 3 miles if they were forced to.