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sparcolawn
01-25-2006, 06:37 PM
i've been doing some pricing lately on some 3/4 tons and have found that ford seems to be the best deal, i've always been a chevy guy myself, any opinions on these 3/4 tons?

CLARK LAWN
01-25-2006, 06:44 PM
are you looking new or used? around here i've found chevy to be less expensive than fords not by much but still less and dodge isnt even in the same sport 5-6k more

lawnmaniac883
01-25-2006, 07:38 PM
Be cautious of the best "deal". I know the fords with their powerstrokes have had several problems with them, they are also one complicated engine to work on. If this is a non diesel 3/4 ton then disregard the previous comment, but if you are pricing diesels, chevy or dodge.

Jpocket
01-25-2006, 07:46 PM
Honestly I think that GM & Ford have the best thing going when it comes to 3/4 and up trucks. They have the "look" the features and the power.

However when it comes to Diesel (Cummins) & 1/2 ton trucks I would NOT count Dodge out. It seems they all have there strong and weak points.

You just have to find what you like the most. I personally love the Gm's the GMC's in particular.

sparcolawn
01-25-2006, 08:13 PM
I'm defenitly looking new, i've dealt with the buying used and am sick of dealing with the problems. nothing against those who like buying new. and i've debated buying a diesel but cant afford that yet so gas it is for now. theres no difference between gmc and chevy right?

tcls83
01-25-2006, 08:14 PM
My opinion is that for new trucks Dodge seems to be the best all around- gas or diesel. But you probably cant go wrong with any 3 of the makes- Ford makes a mean work truck and Chevy's duramax and allison seem like the the best drivetrain combo . I hear there's new Chevy's coming out for 2007, maybe wait till then?

Or just find a solid 73-87 Chevy and put the money left over into your business.

Smalltimer1
01-25-2006, 08:53 PM
Be cautious of the best "deal". I know the fords with their powerstrokes have had several problems with them, they are also one complicated engine to work on. If this is a non diesel 3/4 ton then disregard the previous comment, but if you are pricing diesels, chevy or dodge.

If you're worried about the PSD, then opt for the V-10, it gets better mileage than its counterparts (GM 8.1 and Dodge 5.7 Hemi) and easily outmuscles them. Spark plug blowouts were eliminated in '01, that is no longer an issue.

Jpocket
01-25-2006, 11:23 PM
If you're worried about the PSD, then opt for the V-10, it gets better mileage than its counterparts (GM 8.1 and Dodge 5.7 Hemi) and easily outmuscles them. Spark plug blowouts were eliminated in '01, that is no longer an issue.

No Ford v-10 is gonna out muscle a GM 8.1L 496 Big Block im sorry gotta disagree. sure the small block Hemi but not the CHEVY.

Jpocket
01-25-2006, 11:24 PM
Or just find a solid 73-87 Chevy and put the money left over into your business.[/QUOTE]

You can never go wrong here if you know how to work on them!

Smalltimer1
01-26-2006, 08:40 AM
No Ford v-10 is gonna out muscle a GM 8.1L 496 Big Block im sorry gotta disagree. sure the small block Hemi but not the CHEVY.


Sorry, but the Ford does already. Ford 6.8 V-10 362hp vs. Chubby's 8.1's 330hp, no contest. Ford 457ft. lb. tq. Chubby 450lb. ft.

The Chubby may have the displacement advantage off the line, but the Ford will easily overtake and run away from the Chubby on the strip.

Mbsausage
01-26-2006, 09:45 AM
i have a 1985 gmc 3/4 ton HD , i'm looking to sell it. the trucks in great shape. mint mechanically. i need a dump , need the money to buy one. but i drive mine every day. the truck is the best one i every had.

ElephantNest
01-26-2006, 09:51 AM
I like my 2002 GMC 2500HD so much, that I bought a new one (2005) just like it. So my '02 is for sale. Even with the smaller 6.0 liter engines, they easily pull upwards of 11,000 lbs. No diesel, but not too shabby.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/EleNest/DSCF0045.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/EleNest/DSCF0043.jpg

TriCountyLawn
01-26-2006, 10:31 AM
I would go with a GM truck with a Allison trans. 6.0,8.1 or Duramax you cant go wrong. I own 2 chevys (2500HD's w/ 5.7 and 8.1) and own 2 Fords (F350 and F450, both have V10's)

Both Fords have had tranny problems and the F350 had to have a ton of eletrical work done to it. The Fords will be getting sold this spring and will be replaced by GM trucks.

J&R Landscaping
01-26-2006, 12:35 PM
I thought that Ford trucks were the best thing for plowing as far as having a heavy front end BUT,,, I test drove a 03 GMC 2500HD and it was a lot smother up front! It did not seem to strain as much as the (NEW) F250 did. Both trucks had an 8' western ultramount plow on them.
The only problem I don't like with GMC is that to my knowledge, they don't have 5 speed trans, just a standard 4 and allison with 6. I am not sure about this though!!!
Still,, I am sold on the new 2500HD GMC!!!
Just my $.02

BufalinoLand
01-26-2006, 12:37 PM
I have used a 1995 chevy 3/4 4x4 for the past 7 seasons.


paid for her 3 years ago


just got a new 05 3500 chevy 4x4 dump, needed to bump up payload and dump


30,200 out the door. plain jane stick with a 6l gas

All I need

Chevy or GMC all the way in my book.

Jpocket
01-26-2006, 01:01 PM
Sorry, but the Ford does already. Ford 6.8 V-10 362hp vs. Chubby's 8.1's 330hp, no contest. Ford 457ft. lb. tq. Chubby 450lb. ft.

The Chubby may have the displacement advantage off the line, but the Ford will easily overtake and run away from the Chubby on the strip.

Right you proved my point who buys a 3?4 ton truck for a race car? You buy em to pull heavy loads froma dea stop. I could care less which one pulls better at the top end.

Smalltimer1
01-26-2006, 02:58 PM
Right you proved my point who buys a 3?4 ton truck for a race car? You buy em to pull heavy loads froma dea stop. I could care less which one pulls better at the top end.

How did I prove your point? I do not see your logic when you said that a Ford V-10 will never outpower a 8.1 Chevy and I proved you WRONG obviously.

They are made for pulling but some like to get where they're going with their load faster than others.:cool:

Smalltimer1
01-26-2006, 03:01 PM
I thought that Ford trucks were the best thing for plowing as far as having a heavy front end BUT,,, I test drove a 03 GMC 2500HD and it was a lot smother up front! It did not seem to strain as much as the (NEW) F250 did. Both trucks had an 8' western ultramount plow on them.
The only problem I don't like with GMC is that to my knowledge, they don't have 5 speed trans, just a standard 4 and allison with 6. I am not sure about this though!!!
Still,, I am sold on the new 2500HD GMC!!!
Just my $.02


Strain? Want to test the front ends?? Try this.....

Travis Followell
01-26-2006, 05:45 PM
Strain? Want to test the front ends?? Try this.....
Looks like the back end to me.

Smalltimer1
01-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Looks like the back end to me.

You still don't depend on 1/2 the truck to hold the load. Proper loading takes the whole truck into consideration.

lawnmaniac883
01-26-2006, 09:24 PM
Instead of start another battle about how "oh ford is da best" "oh chebby is the best" lets give this guy some advice on what truck is best for him, how bout it? BTW, thats the rear end buddy...

hosejockey2002
01-26-2006, 09:46 PM
You still don't depend on 1/2 the truck to hold the load. Proper loading takes the whole truck into consideration.

Proper loading, yes. But it's obvious in the picture that the entire load is centered over the rear axle. Besides, any dually can handle the weight of a 1/2 ton P/U over the rear axle. These Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge arguments are pointless and childish. All three do the job very well, just buy the one you like.

Scag48
01-27-2006, 12:40 AM
I have an '00 GMC 2500HD gasser 6.0, great truck. Pulls pretty well for it's size, I've had 10-11K behind it, no problem. 150K miles, no major problems. I flushed the tranny at 135K, put on some new tires, changed the batteries, a few other maintenance things, other than that, she runs great. I don't understand where all you guys have problems with your rigs, I've yet to have a major problem with either of our trucks, GMC or Ford. I just don't understand.

hosejockey - Acutally, a dually doesn't boost the GVW of the rear axle more than 1,000 pounds anyway. LOL. I think it's hilarious how many people buy duallies for pulling cars, boats, etc. The only advantage of dually is stabilty and it helps with real heavy haulling, but I laugh every time I see a really cherried out dually truck.

hosejockey2002
01-27-2006, 02:09 AM
Scag- A standard cab, 2wd dually pickup typically has a payload rating of 5-6000 lbs., more than enough to handle the weight of a full size 2wd pickup. More specifically, the F350 2wd dually has a 5800 lb. payload with the V10 engine, and the Chevy 3500 4wd dually standard cab (2wd not available in standard cab) has a 5500 lb. payload. These figures come from each mfgs. websites.

Prideland
01-27-2006, 02:44 AM
Look at the gearing in both, I dont think you have a choice in the gas Chev, gonna be 410, not sure what Ford offers for gearing, but they do offer a solid front axle Dana 50. Get dana 60 when you go to f350. I got a good ole 97 F250 PSD 4.10 gears auto, can squeek 17 hwy no load, 12 -15 wload dont really matter how much either.

Lawn Masters
01-27-2006, 03:14 AM
In diesels, all the current production ones are good choices, the dodge is quite reliable with an excellant track record, Ford had some problems earlier in the prodction of the 6.0PSD but they've worked those out for the most part, GM has a good engine and tranny combo on their trucks, and despite being a Ford man, I'd buy either the Dodge or GM truck with a diesel in it.

Really, arguing which truck is better is a really stupid thing to do, they're all equal and have a place with certain individuals.

allinearth
01-28-2006, 07:05 AM
Does Chevy offer the diesel with a manual trans? Is that trans problematic?

TWUllc
01-28-2006, 12:22 PM
'06 GMC 2500HD with the 6 liter. I don't see a need for anything more engine wise unless you are pulling huge campers and such. Unless you are doing a TON of driving, the gasser will work fine. Theres plenty of power. I think of it this way, if I need more power out of my 6.0, I'm obviously pushing the limits of the truck. Doubt I'll ever buy a diesel unless I go above a 3500.

newmanfan
01-28-2006, 12:40 PM
I bought a new F250 super duty this July. Came equipped with trailer towing package, and already wired with hitch. All I had to do was hook the trailer up. It is an automatic. I also had a EZ-Dumper installed. Very impressed with handling, towing, power. I bought just the basic model, and had everything I needed. I would buy again.