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pcs
04-13-2001, 10:34 AM
Today I helped a friend out on a clean up. It took 3 of us 5 hours to do it plus two truck loads and a trailer load of stuff. Cut down to trees and removed 5 stumps that where already there. This place was a mess!! Got it done and the lady said she was not happy and was not going to pay. So this really got my friend mad. And he just started hauling all the stuff from the trucks and through it back on her lawn. The lady just stood there and laughed. What would you do if this happened to you? We tried to reason with her but she was a wicked wowmen!!

Grassman
04-13-2001, 11:13 AM
Don't know the laws in Canada, but talk to an attorney and try to put a lean on the BIT***S property. If you can't , just burn it down! Good luck, Russ

HOMER
04-13-2001, 11:27 AM
I would suggest taking before and after pictures whenever taking on a project like this. A picture speaks a 1000 words and would have been good to show a Judge if it went that far.

Grassman
04-13-2001, 11:38 AM
Excellent advice Homer and much less risky than roasting her home. Good luck to ya, Russ.

awm
04-13-2001, 12:18 PM
lady wasnt to smart. been me id have done the same thing your friend did only i might accidently step on some pretty things around.

LoneStarLawn
04-13-2001, 12:21 PM
large jobs should require a deposit and percentage..therefore if they do not want to pay then you can leave all the trimmings behind and still have some money to show for it. I would also look towards a lien on her house if the job had a large price on it.

Fantasy Lawns
04-13-2001, 01:09 PM
once you dumped the stuff back ....you'll have little to stand on in court for the whole amount ....deposit's for jobs over say $100 ...keep your cool ....clear communication of payment & work to be performed ....I'd try to collect on the labor spent altough ...good luck ....man that is a $%$%$#^
http://www.businessknowhow.com/money/wontpay.htm

SJR Lawncare
04-13-2001, 09:15 PM
That sucks!!! I probably would have done the same thing. Good luck

SJR

EROSS17
04-13-2001, 09:39 PM
I probably would have dumped the stuff on her porch and in her driveway.

cos
04-13-2001, 11:40 PM
I would have loved to throw that stuff back on her lawn. i would most likely have just dumped the stuff and charged her for it. If I wouldn't have got it that way, I would use other ways to collect legally. by dumping all the stuff back on the lawn, you basiscally did all that work for free. I have the thoughts of dumping oil on the lawn, but whatever you do that is going to cost you, is not worth it. Make sure you spread the word of her wicked ways.

MikeGA
04-13-2001, 11:50 PM
If you had all of her mess loaded up, what the h@ll did she have not to be happy about??????????????????????????????? One night she needs to take a short drive off a TALL cliff!!

BigEd
04-14-2001, 12:25 AM
We have a guy around here that is simuliar,he has burnt so many of my friends and the guy I once worked for.He will call you up, get you to give him a price and agree on the price,asked to be billed monthly and then never pay so he has been serviced 5-6 times and stiffs you.This year I am working for myself,me and a friend were passing out fliers and decided to put one on this guys door for fun.I walk in the door at home and have 2 messages on my phone,one was him.I called the guy back and he feeds me some bull about how he has cut his lawn for years and just had a stroke and couldnt do it anymore.I go out to his house to have a little fun with him.I walked around the yard with him and told him $65 dollars (my old boss charged $40)he said "Fine I will see you in April".I then proceed to tell him I will need payment the day of cut.He did not know what to say then he says " I am on a budgeted income can we bill monthly.I replied "Sir we all are on a budget including my old employer Mr.------- which who you still owe $240.This man did know what to say,so I ended it with"have a nice day".
The other day I pass by his house and there is someone cutting his lawn,as I pass by this guy I never seen before waves to me I wave back.I get about a 1/4 mile down the road,and decide to turn around and go back.I call the guy up to my truck and tell him about the deadbeat.He thanked me then proceeded to load his trailer up.The lawn was not even half way done.I laughed all the way to my next job.
I think it is our duty to inform people in our area of these "DEADBEATS"

Acute Cut
04-14-2001, 12:34 AM
Athough buring is a bad idea, it did have a certain flare to it. I thought the same thought immediatly. Heck, i am getting pissed just sitting here and thinking about it.

Here is EXACTLY what i would do. Get a BIG sign and put it in the back of your truck. Saying EXACTLY what happened. Dont use slander or anything. JUST THE FACTS.
"Ms. X hired us to do job. We did job and then she refused to pay us. Bill was X dollars."

Then put copies of the info on bumper for people to pick up through out the day. DONT be on her property at all. But be close. Let her know you are there and why. Check with police too so you dont get into trouble. See if that has any affect. Embarassment can get $$$ moving quickly.

Of course, flamage still sounds cool too.

CSRA Landscaping
04-14-2001, 12:39 AM
Man, that's ruthless.
I think I would have pursued the prop. lien, if the amount warranted it. I would definitely spread the word about her. .....I'm still chuckling about that last guy.

David Gretzmier
04-14-2001, 12:46 AM
contractors lien. dave g

plow kid
04-14-2001, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by: some one else
What would you do if this happened to you?


The same thing as your buddy did!, I have done it before and will do it again.

pcs
04-14-2001, 01:13 AM
I'm glad to see that you guys would do the same. People have to know that we are serious people and need to make money. Today was a total loss but we all have these days I guess. We just got to move on and make money tommorow.

parkwest
04-14-2001, 08:29 PM
Have you tried signed work orders? They hold up better in court than your word against hers.

Any job which requires you to go onto a strangers property without the ground rules, work description or price clearly stated in writing is not very professional or smart. Go to a office supply store and get a pad of blank work orders if you don't want to make your own.

Like my grandmother used to say, "Don't trust someone more than your willing to lose and you'll stay out of trouble."

KirbysLawn
04-14-2001, 10:34 PM
Just another example of why contracts should be used. In the same situation, with my temper I would have done the same thing I think.