View Full Version : my first paver project...
02-08-2006, 02:26 AM
well i was on hear a couple months ago trying to decide between pavers and stamped concrete for my house. Thanks to your input I decided on pavers, and started yesturday, so far so good.
The project is probably kind of small for you guys, but kind of big for my first one. 1,000+ sq ft of pavers and a couple steps.
Digging the old gravel driveway up all day yesturday, and installing gravel today. Just got done compacting 37yds of base on top of geo-tex... Man that was more gravel than I thought I was going to need. But I wanted more base then less, so I made sure I went deep enough for car traffic.
so far it has been going pretty good, we'll see tomorrow when I get going with the pavers..
I'll try and get some pics on here as soon as I can. tomorrow hopefully?
ok, back in a while.....jon
02-09-2006, 01:43 AM
ok I got some pics, they aren't that good, but its a start.....now hopefully they work...?
then there are some digging.....http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1114168/DSCN1973_1.jpg
then some gravel...http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1114168/DSCN1982_1.jpg
then part of the pavers,,I'll put some more on when I'm done...http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1114168/DSCN2005_1.jpg
hope this worked....this has been a big learning experiance, but it's pretty fun when you get a perfect bed of sand and finally lay the first paver...
02-09-2006, 10:04 AM
Not to be an a$$ and critique...but, using a random pattern is not the best in a driveway situation. It does not distribute the weight as well as if you use a herringbone pattern. You may end up with rutting in it. How deep of base did you go? 8inches or so? Other than that man, it looks GREAT! Consider taking you and your best guy to a ICPI class and you will be golden.
It does look great though dude!
Herringbone patterns don't fit with the natural look of my customer's homes. I did a random pattern in a driveway this fall and used 10" base to be safe. Don't think it will be going anywhere. I also know of many other experienced landscape contractors do random patterns and the driveways hold up well. Good call on the ICPI though, I'd like to get certified soon.
02-09-2006, 11:05 AM
consider overlaying your pavers past the edge and then cutting your curves. Then put your restraint on last, or your soldier course then your restraint. It makes no difference if you are using a stationary saw, but if you use a cut off saw you can cut in place.
02-09-2006, 11:54 AM
thanks for the comments. appreciate the info.
I talked to the manufacture about the pattern I used(muster K) and they said it would be fine for a driveway. I don't like the look of harringbone at all, so thats why I did this. ICPI is a good call, right now I just do maintenance and no construction, but we'll see in the future.
Base is 10"(some spots deeper) with geo-tex, and the existing soil base was real solid. We compacted it in 2-3" lifts, I dont think its going anywhere!!
Ya, I'm just getting ready to do all the cutting and was thinking the same thing about overlaying into the border. I have a stationary saw, so oh well...? MAN, I bought a stinking diamond blade for the thing....ouch $200! I hope it works good! Well I'm going to go cut all day...
I'll get some more pics on here tonight hopefully, and I'll have to get some of my first stairs also....
thanks again guys...
02-09-2006, 05:36 PM
also, how much spacing between spikes in edging? been doing around 2', but on the corners where you cut the back it could use a little more...
02-09-2006, 08:10 PM
I think your doin a good job..lets not forget the after pics..looks like your having alot of fun doing it and that is important.
02-09-2006, 10:17 PM
thanks, ya I'll try and post after pics tomorrow night. I think I can finish tomorrow(fingers crossed) I'll just start a new thread "First paver job, before and after pics" something like that.....so far it has been the hardest fun I've ever had. It's nice to see a job well done at your own house!
Spikes go where they need to go. Does the edging move? If so, more spikes. If it's solid, you're good. No real formula I've seen.
02-10-2006, 10:37 AM
Rule of thumb on spikes is 1 per foot. I double up around radii.
02-10-2006, 11:56 AM
thanks, ya I went back around and staked any spots that were loose at all, should finish today. ok, gotta go cut pavers...jon
02-10-2006, 10:39 PM
looks good... and if you had a 10in base no worries about rutting...
i also do not like herringbone patterns...
we mainly use 3 piece modulars with a random lay...
you still have a lot of "t" intersections, so there is plenty of interlock.
and i am icpi certified, but that does not really mean squat.. they don't teach you that much in the class.... but i do remember that limestone is not a suitable base material .....lol...
02-10-2006, 11:32 PM
7:30 fri night.......I'm done with everything except final tamping!!!!!!!! and my back hurts!
man did the cutting take forever! sorry don't have after pics yet, it got dark on me, I'll be gone tomorrow, but on sunday I'll try and get some before and after pics. I'm pretty happy for my first install, so far.
ya there is a ton of gravel under there, i hate when pavers sink, so I went overboard with geo/gravel/compacting!!! that was my main worry.
thanks for the info, much appreciated! Jon
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