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iski3d
04-16-2001, 10:15 PM
I JUST FINISHED A 5.5 HR. CLEANUP WITH ME AND ONE OTHER GUY. WE BOTH USED MOSTLY RAKES BUT ALSO A LITTLE BLOWING WITH HANDHELD BLOWERS. I WAS WONDERING WHAT A GOOD HOURLY RATE FOR CLEAN-UPS ARE. I WAS THINKING AROUND 25-30 PER GUY, BUT I CANT BRING MYSELF TO CHARGING 250-300 FOR THIS CLEANUP. WHAT DO U GUYS CHARGE? THANKS.

EROSS17
04-16-2001, 10:47 PM
5.5 hours for a clean-up with two guys is a long time. $250-$300 sounds low to me. Clean ups are a pain in the arse. When I bid on one that I really don't want to do, I bid very high. They usually want us to do it anyway. Get paid!!!

PIONEER
04-16-2001, 11:41 PM
we charge $32.00 per hr. per man.

ronslawncare
04-16-2001, 11:48 PM
cleanups i charge 50.00 hour

do it this way it easy to figure out and noone gets screwed.

50 hour )2 men x5.5= 11 hours of work

50x11=$550.00

300.00 you underbided yourself alot.explain that there two guys working at ___ cost per hour goodluck

joshua
04-17-2001, 02:22 AM
personly i would say arond $450. good luck with what you come up with

KD'sLawns
04-17-2001, 02:33 AM
I agree with EROSS17, the main thing is to get paid for your trouble. They know it's not an easy job or they would do it themselves. On clean-ups I never go below $40/hr/man.
If you do a good job, they will call again because they will want it done right.

Los
04-17-2001, 06:08 PM
Depends on the cleanup dude if its just leaves $550.00 is a little much to charge for a cleanup if its the whole deal thatching fertilizing cleanup areating etc then you jack up the price for what you eplained $250-$300 is fine you want to make your money you at least want to get $40 per hour for yourself its ruff getting that per person for a simple cleanup even if it took long you paying your man what 8 bucks and hour or something so do the math and get your money out of the way, good fair prices bring good business your way...

ronslawncare
04-17-2001, 06:45 PM
yea thats true he did say they were rakeing at most part .but i wouldnt even go below 400 for 5 and half hours it would be a waste of time then. i did a cleanup about two weeks ago by myself 550.00 6 hours of work but i wasnt doing that much of leaves the place was covered in pine.it depends on what it takes to do the job but i no over here there are houses you are never gona get 50 hour from. than there are some so use good judgement .

thelawnguy
04-17-2001, 11:20 PM
You guys are smokin if you believe a customer will pay the same hourly rate for a guy with a rake as they will for a guy with a vac system, broom, etc.

Let me know where you get 500 to hand rake a lawn for 5 hours spring cleanup, Ill be there tomorrow.

Southern Lawns
04-19-2001, 07:48 AM
Definatly $35. or $40. per man hour is good.I'ts hard work, it may be a lot of money but again it's hard work. I also agree with the lawn guy, I don't think people should be penalizied for having the most efficient equipment to do the job, I think you almost have to price the job "by the job" no matter if you pick up one leave at a time or use a high powered vac etc...... The Vac guy shouldn't charge by the hour as the guy with the rake for obvious reasons. By the time you get to buy your own equipment you'll have experienced the difference and will be able to charge accordingly.

KD'sLawns
04-19-2001, 08:19 AM
You purchase better equipment to save you time, so that you can turn out work quicker and easier. When you started out with a 21' mower and started picking up work mowing for 25-50 bucks a yard. When you went out and purchased that 37"-52" walkbehind or that ZTR did you drop your price to half of what you were getting since you could do it in half the time? I think not!!! I charge by the job on my quality of work, not my quantity work. So, I charge the same regardless of what equipment I use. If I can do it in half the time with the equipment than I could by hand raking, then good for me, because I have to pay for that equipment and the maintenence on that equipment.

dhicks
04-19-2001, 09:40 PM
Minimum of $50.00 per hour for two man crew. Raking and blowing no big deal. However, if you had to dump dead tree, branches, vines, leaves etc, then add another $100-150.00 for hauling.

Clean up are tough but money can be made.

NateinAtl
04-19-2001, 10:25 PM
There will always be customers that complain about the time spent, and think that they are paying for the time rather than the service. I just ask these type customers if they needed to go from LA to NY would they pay less for a plane ticket than they would for a bus ticket. They surely don't complain to the captain of the plane that he went too fast. Pricing cleanups is hard to do. If a customer got 10 bids, they all would be different. The only sure thing to do is once you do a job, keep records of the price so you can call them the following year and tell them you will do it again at the same price as you did before.

By the way, when you guys quote leaf cleanups, do you give them a time frame? because there are thos that would take your quote in early October and then call in late december and want you to honor the before mentioned quote. What do you guys do as far as a timeframe when you give a quote?

KD'sLawns
04-20-2001, 07:48 AM
When I give a bid on anything, on the bottom of my bid sheet I state that my bid is only good for three weeks because of changing conditions and unexpected increases in materials. that way, you will find out sometimes a little quicker. I have had to re-bid some jobs after the three weeks. I have picked up every job that I have had to re-bid, and my price has never come down. Either bid it the same if not much has changed to the property, or increase bid to compensate for anything new.

MOW ED
04-20-2001, 12:12 PM
I know one thing for sure, you will not be able to continue that pace with two guys towing rakes. I can talk from experience from this one. I don't even put a rake on my trailer. I use a backpack blower for all the tight areas and blow it out on the lawn to be vacuumed up by the Walker. I run the spring tine dethatcher over the lawns and vacuum the debris up. I can do this on a regular size yard (1/4 acre) in less than an hour for about 100 bucks where I am at. I dethatched a 3 acre lot (mostly flat open land) and vacuumed all the debris in less than 6 hours. I do not think you could even bid this job with a rake.

My point is, try some equipment. Get a backpack blower, get a JRCO dethatcher for the front of your walkbehind. Save yourself some major muscle aches and make some money. You can pay for the equipment in 1 season if you hustle then the next years are profit. I know that money can buy alot of rakes but your body WILL wear out before you wear out 2000 rakes. Good Luck

JimLewis
04-20-2001, 02:23 PM
It all depends on the community you live in, how much you need the money, etc. For some, $250 for that job would be just right. For others it's too low. If you can make a profit at that price and aren't overwhelmed with work right now, go ahead and charge $250.

Just FYI, I began charging for clean-ups using the following method last year and it's worked wonders. I have a 'clean-up only' crew getting this rate 5 days per week;

We charge $550 - $650 per day for clean-up work. For that, the client gets two of my best guys for 8-10 hours, as many truckloads of debris as is needed to haul away, and any clean-up work that doesn't require expensive materials (that is, cassaron, mulch, etc. are extra, but raking, weeding, etc. are included). And even though this isn't $35 per man hour, it' fairly close. And we can make a good profit at this rate. Dumping debris costs us almost nothing so that's how I can make this work.

I don't think you can really charge $50 per man hour for clean-ups. For landscape installs, maybe. It's a little high for that even but it could work. But if you told a customer you want $50 per man hour for clean-ups 90% of them will go elsewhere. It's a little above the going rate for maintenance work. I think $25-35 is about standard. Plus, obviously, other expenses.

BTW, if you learn to spray weeds a week before you do clean-ups and then use a Hula Hoe to harvest the dead weeds, it cuts down the time on a clean-up (where you'd be hand weeding if you hadn't sprayed) in about half. Work smart not hard.

Just my 2 cents.

thelawnguy
04-20-2001, 02:41 PM
"What do you guys do as far as a timeframe when you give a quote?"

Three days.

"This proposal may be withdrawn if not accepted within three (3) days of above date."

This is preprinted on all my estimate forms. Seems pretty standard in my area FWIW. Mind you, it doesnt necessarily mean you will bump the price after three days but gives the customer an incentive to get off the pot, and covers your rump if they drag it out.