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Gatewayuser
02-17-2006, 10:37 PM
What is the cheapest and best pre-e with fert that Lesco sells? What N-P-K do you use with the pre-e I was thinking around 24-6-12 or so depending on soil samples. Thanks!

Jason Rose
02-17-2006, 11:00 PM
Unfortunately the words cheap and best can't be used in the same sentence usually... This is true for preemergents as well. Cheapest is going to be Pendimethelin (Pre-Em) but it will turn everything yellow and usually needs to be applied twice to get a full season coverage. Best is either Barricade or Deminsion. Both are about the same price but last longer and can either be applied in one app or two. Both are more expensive than Pre-Em...

The N P K question wil have to be answered by someone in your area, that stuff varies from region to region too much.

indyturf
02-17-2006, 11:05 PM
What is the cheapest and best pre-e with fert that Lesco sells? What N-P-K do you use with the pre-e I was thinking around 24-6-12 or so depending on soil samples. Thanks!
Like I tell my customers you can have the cheapest or you can have the best, But you cant have both!

Gatewayuser
02-17-2006, 11:06 PM
Thanks
I figured I would have to use dimension its just so exspensive.

indyturf
02-17-2006, 11:11 PM
I got a price of $13.75 for 19-0-6 w/dem. but that was before Jan. 1, and I was buying 500 bags.

Gatewayuser
02-17-2006, 11:24 PM
Thats a good price everything I am looking at is $24 per bag.:dizzy: :cry:

indyturf
02-17-2006, 11:30 PM
I think there was a price inscrease Jan 1. but you might want to check around, you can probablly do better than that!

turfmann
02-18-2006, 07:14 AM
It's not the price of the bag of fert, its the cost per M applied. I bought my fert/dimension at about $19 per bag, but it was the least expensive by far per thousand.

The Ranger
02-18-2006, 09:03 AM
If you want the cheapest, try a product with Team. It usually runs less money when comparing similar fert blends

gqnine44
02-18-2006, 10:05 AM
Gateway, I got a price from Beechmont on Dimension 19-0-6 for $18.55 (i believe that is the pallet price).

As far as what N-P-K to use I almost think 19 is even too high. The grass greens and grows good enough in the spring without me adding too much N. I dont want to have a jungle on my hands when I arrive to mow.

robertsturf
02-18-2006, 10:18 AM
Helena has 19-3-6 Deminsion for 13.50, and Barricade 16-4-8 w/ Mesa for 18.50. In our area. Barricade price is for a 1 app preemergent.

PGA
02-18-2006, 10:41 AM
Helena has 19-3-6 Deminsion for 13.50, and Barricade 16-4-8 w/ Mesa for 18.50. In our area. Barricade price is for a 1 app preemergent.






I just paid $23 a bag for 19-0-6 from Lesco. I have a Helena over here in Lenexa so I will check them out.

newhort
02-18-2006, 10:35 PM
I bought a pallet of 19-0-6 (Deminsion)from Lesco yesterday. $ 20.60 a bag. If you spray Deminsion at .987 oz. per 1000 it will cost $1.00 per 1000.
The gran. will cover 13500 sq. ft. so that is $ 1.53 per 1000.

timturf
02-19-2006, 08:39 AM
before you can compare products, wouldn't you need to know the ai of herbicidein the product?

just my thoughts
tim

teeca
02-19-2006, 08:45 AM
try using 0-0-7 w/ dimension for your fisrt app. you realy don't need the N in the spring. or the 19-0-6 if you feel you have to have the N.

gqnine44
02-19-2006, 11:12 PM
try using 0-0-7 w/ dimension for your fisrt app. you realy don't need the N in the spring. or the 19-0-6 if you feel you have to have the N.

0-0-7 might be good on some of my props. I didnt even know they made it. I wonder if James Bond would use it if he did lawn applications?

robertsturf
02-20-2006, 11:22 AM
The only problem I've found with 0-0-7, its a little hard to spread due to prill size, and I've only been able to find it at Lesco.

lilmarvin4064
02-20-2006, 01:21 PM
what about 13-2-5 :clapping:

teeca
02-20-2006, 02:26 PM
yes the 0-0-7 is harder to spread (even more so in a lesco spreader), any product low in N for a spring app would be fine.

Fert Guy
02-20-2006, 06:39 PM
Thats a good price everything I am looking at is $24 per bag.:dizzy: :cry:

$24.00 per bag is outrageous. You should not spend any more than $16.00 per bag for .10 dimension

Fert Guy
02-20-2006, 06:47 PM
The cost of fertilizer depends on the amout of slow release N in the fertilizer. The higher the percent of slow release the higher the cost. We sell a 19-0-6 .10 Dimension with 30% slow release for about $16.00 per bag

Jason Rose
02-20-2006, 06:53 PM
What are your suppliers guys? I shop at Lesco and I am looking at $25 a bag for .48% Baricade with 19-0-6.

I tried to call JD landscapes today but it was after 4:00 and they were closed. I'd like to compare prices between Lesco, Andersons, and ???

I have used UHS before and I wasn't impressed. Very sticky dirty fert that I had to clean the impeller every bag or 2 on to maintain a good spread pattern, also had a lot more clogs with the UHS. However last spring the Lesco wasn't much better. I had one pallet that was pretty dusty and wanted to cake on the impeller too. (I'm talking combo products with Barricade).

I'd like to stay a high % of barricade, though I'm not afraid to switch to a split app using Demension if I can find it for a good price.