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qualityscapes
02-24-2006, 07:40 PM
Looking to purchase a new ZTR mower.


Getting into the mowing aspect of the business and need to purchase a commerical ZTR mower. Is it possible to spend 4 - 4.5k and get an entry level new one?

I'm located in upstate NY so my opportunity for multiple dealers is low. Not to many manufacutres to choose from.

Jpocket
02-24-2006, 07:52 PM
NOPE If your buying a new one $4,000 aint gonna get you much of a Z. IF thats all you have i'd look at used Full sized machine, or buy a walkbehind.
A new 60" Z is gonna cost you about $9,000. Lesco does sell them for around $6-$7,000. Honestly if you have good credit, and know you can get enough wrok or have enough$$$ to pay for it I would finance it. You can finance for up to like 4 years, and the payment are like $250.00 depending on what you put down.

qualityscapes
02-24-2006, 08:00 PM
Cub Cadet Z-Force 50 Would this be considered a commerical mower?

Tider6972
02-24-2006, 08:10 PM
The Gravely PM34Z is a fully commercial grade mower, and lists for $5099 but can be bought for ~$4300 - $4600 . It's a great little mower, but it is not designed to handle hills of any degree of slope angle. That's about it's only limitation!

Excellent machine!

CAG
02-24-2006, 08:14 PM
MY advice would be to get a used scag or similar brand ZTR with your budget. u probably could find one cheaper than 4gs if u start looking now. I would recommend a under 1500hr machine to use for a year or so then buy new and keep it for a back up.

samk
02-24-2006, 08:53 PM
Cub Cadets Zforce series is residential though I do believe the 50 has a year commercial waranty. Tanks have two.

qualityscapes
02-24-2006, 09:13 PM
What do you mean by tanks?

samk
02-24-2006, 09:19 PM
Tanks are Cubs commercial division

TURF DOCTOR
02-24-2006, 09:31 PM
Try simplicity mowers not sure if 4 grand will get you much.

mulcahy mowing
02-24-2006, 09:37 PM
exmark phaser.

Daily Lawn/Landscape
02-25-2006, 12:12 AM
I would look for a used one through the paper local, dealer etc.. I would not go out and finance one. Bad idea. You might look at walk behind with a sulky. I started with a 36" and has worked great for me. A buddy of mine uses a 54" walk behind and one of his biggest accounts is almost 6 acres works for him.

mike lane lawn care
02-25-2006, 01:34 AM
Try simplicity mowers not sure if 4 grand will get you much.

my dealer swears by the simplicity ZTR's, he says they will last forever, and he's not just saying that because he is trying to sell one.

Willofalltrades
02-25-2006, 01:56 AM
Gravely has the ZT2348XL. This is a homeowner model. I looked at the machine and was impressed for the price (I was quoted $4600) compared to crap like the Cub "commercial" z-force (I also looked at that to). You can also add accessories like a stripe kit, mulcher and bagger cheep to. That would be a good route if you want new. If not I would suggest a used commercial mower.

twj721
02-25-2006, 07:52 AM
There is a guy in Fleischmanns NY that has a 2003 Scag Saber Tooth Tiger 31BSD diesel 61" advantage deck . mower for Sale it has I think 64 hrs on it I have info on it in case you are interested in it and I wil get information to you think he was asking $9975.00

Jpocket
02-25-2006, 08:30 AM
The ONLY homeowner machine that is even worth looking at is the Exmark LAZER CT. THAts it!

ThirdDay
02-25-2006, 08:37 AM
Cub Cadet Z-Force 50 Would this be considered a commerical mower?

NO...the Cub Z-Farce is NOT a commercial mower!

ThirdDay
02-25-2006, 08:39 AM
my dealer swears by the simplicity ZTR's, he says they will last forever, and he's not just saying that because he is trying to sell one.

Then why else would he be saying that?? If he knew what he was talking about he would know that the $4,000 Simplicity Z is a homeowner model and will get torn apart in commercial use!

MTR
02-25-2006, 12:33 PM
I would look for a used one through the paper local, dealer etc.. I would not go out and finance one. Bad idea. You might look at walk behind with a sulky. I started with a 36" and has worked great for me. A buddy of mine uses a 54" walk behind and one of his biggest accounts is almost 6 acres works for him.


This is the best advice so far! Think about depreciation on that Z while still making nerve-wrecking payments and competing with other LCOs at the same time kissing customers' arses to make those hard earned bucks!!!
Go slow but sure and steady is the way ...to do, not plugning in big debts...Z, house, truck, wife, and KIDS ' expenses......or lord...

mike lane lawn care
02-25-2006, 01:59 PM
Then why else would he be saying that?? If he knew what he was talking about he would know that the $4,000 Simplicity Z is a homeowner model and will get torn apart in commercial use!

sorry, got confused for a min., the one that my dealer likes is the simplicity stallion, not the consumer Z. He sells machines that are much more expensive, but this one is his favorite. sorry for the confusion

6'7 330
02-25-2006, 02:31 PM
Consider a good walk-behind, a 4k Z-Turn ain't going to cut it-no pun intended.

For 3900 you could get a Lesco 48-in hydro.Lesco mowers get good reviews here to.