Friendly LCO's ?

[Skookum]

Are you friendly with other LCO's crews. In otherwords, do you wave while driving past a crew or when you pass another crew on the road like at a intersection? Do they wave back if you do?

I seen several crews over the last few days and I waved or noded to them all like I always do. NONE made a motion back! Is it just me or is this the wrong attitude? I had several just kind of glare at me. Them seem to act like I just wiped dog poo off my shoe onto their trailer or something!

I guess I am just the friendly type!

[EROSS17]

It's kind of a funny thing with LCO's. Most of them act all hard when you drive by, but if you ever end up talking to some of these guys they're real friendly. Once at a gas station, there was another crew filling there machines and we got to talking. The guy gave me a lawn that pays $100 a week that he has been doing for a couple of years. He said it was a little out of his way. Now I've been doing it for 4 years now. You never know what can happen when your just being friendly.

[oneEXMARKfan]

No friendly LCO's around here (that I've ever seen) Guess everyone is viewed as competition.

[CSRA Landscaping]

It's sort of like us having a trade partnership with China - you're real friendly with them but you want to also be very careful around them. I am always friendly and wave/nod/etc. to them but I have noticed a couple get a little wooden about it.

[Skookum]

I agree, and I would be one of those at a gas station meeting that would talk and take your card and give you referals and such.

I always try to get to know the crews around my properties. The other day, another new crew shows up next to an account I have had now 5 years. Every year it is always a new crew. Well, we share a island that we both mow. It is kind of screwy the way the properties are setup.

Anyway, this crew mows the first time the otherday. I got done and pulled my truck and trailer around behind them. I was going to swap cards and introduce myself. Anyway, this older guy comes by on a ZTR within inches of my trailer. I stuck up my finger, like waving down a cab, and motioned for him. He just kind of glares and drives right past while looking at me the entire time.

I think he found out that he had to mow another section out front that looks like it is part of my account, but it is not. I have no real clue, but, I could tell he wanted nothing to do with me, so I left!

[cajuncutter]

I know the feeling all to well. Several times I have initiated conversation, swaped business cards and even sent work to these guys yet when driving down the road I get the evil eye. Also when you go to those early spring promotions like LESCO throws every year all these LCO's show up and will rarely talk to one another. Like a bunch of snobs. Usually the crews will stick together and huddle in different corners of the LESCO wearhouse and consume their free burger. When finished they will just say thanx for the free meal and they will leave. I believe that this is a bit rude. I try to talk to some of these guys but they look at me like I am scum LOL Oh well more power to them

[Eric ELM]

I always wave at other LCO's. Most of them wave back too, probably 85%. I even stop and chat with a couple of them and they stop at times to chat with me. It seems like the ones that aren't friendly are the ones you have never seen on your route and look like they could of just started mowing. I was new at one time and I know what my work used to look like, so this is what I'm basing my thinking they are new. LCO's can get along, we do here. ;)

[joshua]

i know most of the guys in my area, so if i see them i wave and they wave, most of the time when both of us are not working i'll stop and talk to them.
i don't wave to new guys unless they wave to me 1st then i will. alot of guys are real nice around here.

[jrebeiro]

Around here most are friendly. But some companies are pretty large and just have mexicans cutting for them so talking is not an option.

[kutnkru]

I find that most are extremely cliquey in our area, and more often than not would give you the stiff one finger salute just as soon as laff at you.

For the most part people either like fellow LCOs or they dont.

We were working an area that we call Landscape Alley. There were probably 10 companies on the street all working at the same time. Most of us spoke back and forth as we worked our way leap frogging up the block.

It almost looked like a pit stop during a NASCAR race. As three of us (LCOs) were leaving the crews ahead of us were hanging their heads out the windows yelling "OH NO -- NOT YOU GUYS, UGGGHHHH!!!!" to a new crew on the end of the block.

We just gave 'em the quickie head nod to acknowledge their presence and kept on to the next block. Doesnt make much sense, and I cannot figure out why everyone is paranoid of one another.

Kris

[Groundcover Solutions]

most of the lco's around me are really nice!! one just moved in next door to my shop and they are great people! most of the lco's wave when we wave at them so it is a good place i guess!

[mdb landscaping]

almost all of the LCO's around here wave. the only ones that dont are the ones youve never seen before. i used to have a jeep wrangler and it was like a given that you wave to all other jeeps. its the same deal with LCOS i guess. i wave and they wave back

[lawnboy82]

over here there are more lco's than you can shake a stick at. but we have clicks. i have several friends who if i see them working i stop off and talk with them. others if i see driving i wave or honk or whatever. the people who i dont know i dont really bother with. if i meet somebody new then that is great, if not then no hair off my back

[Keith]

I BS with quite a few of the locals. A different attitude than was around 10 years ago.

[GroundKprs]

more often than not would give you the stiff one finger salute just as soon as laff at you.
Hello Kris, that has nothing to do with lawn care business. That is because they are New Yorkers. :D

[HOMER]

All the ones that have been in business for a while are getting more friendly, it's the new guys that hesitate to wave. I think they are intimidated like I was when I started so rather than ask questions or strike up a conversation they try to act like Billy Bad Ars. If they continue I might wave at them and tell them I think they are #1! I've always made an attempt and won't hesitate to speal with anybody, just my nature I guess. I have talked with 3 different groups now about forming an association of sorts, they were all interested so now it's a matter of setting up the first meeting.

There's really no sense in people acting this way. Grass is all over the place and no one job around here pays so much that they have a reason to be jealous or stuck on theirselves.

#1 all the way!

[TJLC]

I also wave to other lco's or strike up a conversation. Why not, there's plenty of work for everyone. They don't always wave back, but what the heck.

[Ground Pounder]

By being friendly, I have formed a professional relationship with another LCO that has been in the biz for 10 years. He has become a mentor. He never hesitates to answer my questions. It pays to be nice...you just never know.

An older LCO and a younger LCO were standing on a hill looking down at a new subdivision. The younger LCO says "Let's run down there and mow one of those lawns." The older LCO says "Let's walk down and mow 'em all!"

The moral of the story...Listen to experience.


p.s. Will this rain ever stop? I am waaay behind.

[powerreel]

I wave too, just one finger! (not really)
I think many people are nervous to deal with the "enemy"

[Edited by powerreel on 04-21-2001 at 01:34 PM]

[Runner]

Most everyone around here waves and are real cordial to one another. I ALWAYS have people coming up asking about the outfit. The way I see it, is that the ones that don't wave, or act like there something they're really not, are the insecure young little rank amateurs! I mean...Grow up!

[Keith]

Originally posted by powerreel
I wave too, just one finger! (not really)
I think many people are nervous to deal with the "enemy"

[Edited by powerreel on 04-21-2001 at 01:34 PM]

Well they say "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer" :D Not that they are the enemy.

[yardsmith]

This was posted last year also-
I always wave & if they are new, they usually see me as competition, & don't wave back. After they grow up, they may wave back. Others are cool & wave back.
My friend mentored me into mowing & we still have the gift of gab, except when it comes to bid prices (can't give away trade secrets ya know). I'm friends with a few others, & it's nice to have comraderie. Those who are too stuck on themselves to lighten up will never get any hand-me-downs or referrals from other LCO's who don't have to have every lawn in the city. Life's too short to be alone while self employed.

[swonkeg]

In My Area Most Of The Solo Operators Will Wave or If At Gas Pumps Carry On Idle Chit Chat. The Large LCO
Crews Won't Wave or Even Acknowledge You Exist.
Thats OK Because One Day They May Be Your Employees----NOT

[dj'slawnservice]

I was really starting to think that I work in a town with the most stuck up people in this business.....until yesterday. A fellow who owns the company that services a property adjoining one of mine walked over with his hand outstretched ! I was elated!! We introduced ourselves, swapped cards, and talked mowers.....now I feel better about my "unfriendly" competitors. Only one other company in town has even so much as waved at me in passing.....will admit it's partly my fault, that intimidation thing has kept me from being as outgoing as I am in most situations.

[Lech615]

Originally posted by GroundKprs

that has nothing to do with lawn care business. That is because they are New Yorkers. :D

Hey I resemble that remark. No seriously, your right it is less likely in NY for most things , that people do not wave or acknowledge eachother. Thats just because we work harder and better than the rest of the country..LOL :cool:

No really, most guys who run their own service biz are usually friendly. They realize what it take sto be successful and have respect for those who work hard. The crews on the other hand just don't care. For most it is just a paycheck, and they could care less about your or their company. well I''ll get off my soap box now.

[dlandscaping]

when we see other lcos out we honk or wave and they wave back. most of the time we stop and chat or walk down to a job they are at or they walk to us. real friendly. at the beginning of the season we all tell what we have bought for the season and how good some equipment was. ive talked with 2 owners of big area companies that have the walker imitation toro and a few exmark z's and they answered my Q's and stayed and chatted. warm community around here.

[LawnPro in NC]

You know I was just thinging about this the other day. I started in this business in august after being with the local sheriff's office for almost 7 years. I have several friends that are in the business and they said it was plenty of work for everybody so I jumped in. I see seems like hundreds of other co's around and I beuing mr. Friendly always wave. Most just kinda look at me and half-a wave. I have meet some for example One gets to a particular property within mins. of me or vice versa. I was mowing and waved and got that look. So being the type person I am I finnished the row and shut the mower off and walked over. I introduced myself and well we talked a few and went back to work he asked for a card and said he may send me some business.
Another I was pricing a job that he Had BEFORE it was sold. He was working at a neighboring property. I walked over a introduced my self. He never stopped working just kinda Huha and huha. I see him at another property and he just kinda stares.


Well the moral of this story was I want to meet everyone of the other LCO's so 1 we may get the prices somwhat similar. The lat thing I want to do is lowball. I am in this to make money not just a livin. I was called to price a job that one of the larger co's had and I was like 20.00 a month higher. Needless to say I didn't get it.

Why Can't we all get along. I do give them the webaddress to lots of good info. Not one has ever heard of LAWNSITE.COM

[Chopper Lover]

Hmmmm...

I have not had any problem with anyone in my area waving, smiling or even chatting...

I guess if you really want to be "chummy" with your local LCO's that are giving you a cold shoulder maybe you should try what Bill Cosby said so many years ago...

Open your cooler and offer them a Coke and a smile...

I bet it would work on Homer!

Happy Thanksgiving,
Mark

[DanG]

I always try to be friendly with other LCO's and will wave or stop to talk to them if I'm not to busy or If I have some free time to kill.

But I find alot of them are like a certain kind of motorcyle riders out there. If you're not riding the "name" brand bike they won't even acknowledge that you're on the same road with them even if you wave to them they'll just ignore you. They act like they're better then you.

Dan G.

[sheppard]

Of course there is alot of theft in our area too. Makes me wonder if the guy waving back to me is outfitted with several stolen parts.

Usually the one man operations are the friendliest. The large companies have non-motivated workers just looking to get off the clock.

Everyone seems to look at the equipment each other is towing. Passes one operator with a WB half way off his back end- could not honk fast enouph. He was going the opposite way on a divided highway.

Cordially,
Sheppard

[Fine Lines Lawn]

Indianapolis has a very friendly LCO community.

[Dochere]

Originally posted by Fine Lines Lawn
Indianapolis has a very friendly LCO community.


Sure Bill, when you walk up to them with a bottle of Crown Royal and a couple of shot glasses;)

Here, it is a mix, some very friendly, and others not so friendly. It seems here that the younger and or solo's are friendlier that the 3 and 4 man opps and the old, wheather beaten, types.

[jeffex]

around my area the situation is fairly good. I'm a mailman in my cutting area so when I see a new cutter I go on a covert mission to talk to them and find out who they are. If they seem ok I tell them I cut part time and let them know that keeping prices up is good for all of us. I know many of the full time lcos in the area and 3 are in the 100 to 200 customer range. We have traded referrals but mostly just checking each others operation out. If our area experienced a price war I think all that would go out the window. most of the commercial operations have mexican workers and they bill at $27 per man hr. There is no reason to try and compete with that price but the residential market is good.

[David Haggerty]

I used to wave at all LCO's I'd see. Very few would ever wave back. I finally got a couple to start responding, till last summer when I traded mowers and got a Toro 580-D. Then it got really cool around here in July! Could it be they just don't see me?

I got PO'd one day and went home and waxed the Toro 580-D. It's an old machine, but I had it looking better than new. Then I loaded it and a 325-D on the trailer and paraded them thru the parking lots of each their accounts. I stopped at all the offices and left fliers.

I'm not expecting any "friendly" waves in the future.

Do you think I might have over reacted?

Dave

[HOMER]

Chopper Lover:

You'd be my bestes fwiend if you offered me a Coke.

I got to talking with a lady that works with Coke and wound up getting a clock, a stand up 20 oz. coke bottle display thingy, a ceiling hanger thingy (big round coke) and a plastic drink bottle.

I wuv my Coker Coler.


D. Haggerty.................you might have ruffled a few feathers!:angry:

[KerryB]

Around here its a mix. Some will talk with you and some will wave, and one is a member on lawnsite. There are some that are butt heads. They never wave, they glare or give you the #1 sign.
Some not to mention any names will steal accounts from other lco's.
Point in case; one of our larger lcos had a sprinkler prob on a res account. He needed to find the valves after the pool men tore everything up. The other lco is the only one around with a locator. So he hired them to locate the valves for him. It not only cost $55.00hr to sub this out but while there the guy stole the maint. contract and got an 18,000 landscape job.
So some will wave to you and some will wave you bye bye. lol

[thelandscaper27]

The LSCO's in my area, if you talk to them and try to ask for advice, they give you the run-around and B.S you.

> >> How unappreciated, just to get advice.

That's why I like this web site.

[TGCummings]

I never seem to have a problem finding someone who will wave or talk to me out here, but I'm usually pretty disappointed by what I find.

In a town of 130,000 or so there are literally dozens of LCOs, mostly the lower end variety: working out of their beat up pickups with beat up equipment, not carrying insurance or licensed to do business, and charging far too little for any of that to change. I try to be sure I'm cutting at $35-40 per hour (which I feel is low!) and am told constantly by new customers that I charge 50-100% more than most of their bids (but that I do a better job ;) ). Yes, that means that most contractors in my area are overjoyed when they clear $20/hour on a job.

That's a little off the point, I know, and I'm not crying about it. That's just the way it is. My prices aren't going anywhere but up as I continue to focus on separating from the pack. I bring it up because as my prices rise, and my equipment improves, I notice a lot of old 'friends' in the business look at me differently. I've broken some unwritten code in my area that we are to remain the perception of the 'lawn guy'. The unskilled, unlicensed laborer who has enough free time to mow lawns. I'm still friendly as hell with my fellow LCOs, but when I honk, wave, and smile I get the half-hearted return anymore...

Now don't get me wrong, there are professional LCOs in my area doing the large commercial tracts. By and large, however, there are either the tiny, back-of-the-pickup variety or the ultra-large multi-crew corporations. Quite a disparity and, IMO, a niche to be filled! The professional, residential lawn service contractor appears needed, and that's just my game. ;)

One last thing. Whenever I stop to talk to my fellows these days I always broach the question: Ever hear of LawnSite.com? By and large, however, I get the same response from my peers:

"I don't own a computer."

:rolleyes:

[G & S LANDSCAPING SERVICE]

We always at other companys, Kind of like networking a trade show, We think big and some times out of the box. Who knows Some day we might own our compitition, and thay will be working for us, So wave and smile you might make someones day, Always be professional .

[mklawnman]

Im a young one at 18yrs old, growing into the Landscaping world. I dont have a name right now nor am i big. Im just a small lawn mowing business that me and my brother have that do a very satisfactory job. fully insured i might add. So when i see other landscapers around i rarely wave to them, if they drive by i just keep on mowing. I gues im kinda a competitor insome ways, as they drive by and see my nice stripes that i have made. Though i do talk to a fairly established landscaping company that does an apartment building across the street from my account. I know the one guy because i went to school with him, his dad owns the company, though they got into some trouble a few yrs back of insurance fraud. We mostly talk about equipment we use and the various acounts we have thats about it.
Im sometimes jelious at what all these other big name companies have on their trailers compared to what i have, just a pickup truck, a 12ft trailer and a Turf Tiger and a JD. I just see other companies as competition to me, but ill be friendly to them if we would ever talk cause im more than happy to hear about how they run the buz. and equipment.
Matt

[OBRYANMAINT]

i always wave and try to be friendly...i have guys in my area that i have waved to for years like they were my best buddy but have never had the opportunity to speak with them...and then i have had a few that are stone cold .....so i wave at them even more and eventually they crack and get a smile

some never do but we always laugh at what the other lco's in my area think

"there goes that happy waving guy again,....maybe he is high!!!!?"

[Green Care]

Here in MD I always wave .

[bobbygedd]

around here they all waive, but i dont know why, they only use one finger when they do. mostly nasty around here, but ive met a couple that are really, exceptionally nice.

[Mowingman]

I always wave at other lco's, and most of them smile and wave back.I guess us Texans are just a friendly bunch.LOL:D

[longslawn]

I try to be friendly to all LCO's. I only have a problem with one company, the owner is a giant a%%hole. I still wave to his employees though. Some I don't know and will wave if I see them. We have alot of trouble with scrubs and lowballers here and I don't go overboard to be overly friendly to them. Some will steal your accounts if possible. Had one tell a customer he was like Wal-Mart, he could beat any price. LOL:D

[KerryB]

Hey Tim not talking about a certain fella that works for the school system too are ya lol

How bout the walmart guy? By the way nice job at the histerical society house .
Kerry

[bubble boy]

what does zone 7 & 8 refr too?

[PRECISION LC]

i always wave at other lco's. even ther ones that aren't mower bacsically anyone that looks like they are in this business. i mostly get a wave back, i think its the best when i pass someone on a mower, cutting, and they wave back, just a good feeling.
kyle:blob2:

[thelandscaper27]

I enjoy to see the other Landscapers and LCO's out there.
I talk to them when possible, having decent conversations.
It seems to be like, I don't know...., up-building to see them so successful and saying to yourself, hey,....... if they have that size of company, I'm surely possitive I (meaning WE) can be that big of company someday or sometime too.

Ask me how I view the competition???

I don't view it as a competition what-so-ever.
I see it as Making this world a better place, home by home, house by house. Each of us is doing our part to help each other to get the job done.

How do yall like that??? I'm not just saying that. It's how I feel.
Expecially in a dog-eatin'-dog world out there.

[CSRA Landscaping]

TL27, That's fine, it's a great outlook to have. Wish every other LCO had it. Be careful just who you let into your 'inner circle,' or you'll get fleeced royally.

[stick9]

I wave or nod whenever I see another lco ... I would say I get about 85-90% of them either nodding, waving, or mouthing 'hi' ... everyone around here is pretty friendly, I guess. I've had the occasional person just stare at me in disbelief .. then I just laugh it off. :)


This is an interesting topic.


STiCK-nInE

[Matthew Morgan]

I used to have a great relationship with one of my competitors. I gave them a couple thousand dollars worth of work over the past few years. Last season, they stabbed me in the back. "Burn me once - shame on you, burn me twice - shame on me" I still talk with them, but it is just to see what is up. All is fair in love and war!

A couple of others are O.K. guys, and they will tell you anything you want to know.

Matthew

[cp]

Around here it is about 70/30 friendly. I have found that when your at the shop or at the store the other LCOs seem more friendly than on the street. By being friendly and open I have been able to network with some good people.

One guy owns a big leaf sucking machine which I can sub and in turn I now look for larger clean up jobs.

Another larger LCO company is sending me work that I can handle and I in turn can recommend his company for larger jobs.

[kutnkru]

Originally posted by Matthew Morgan
... "Burn me once - shame on you, burn me twice - shame on me" I still talk with them, but it is just to see what is up. ...I have to agree with you 100% Matthew that its best to keep your friends closer and your enemies closer in this biz. I too believe in the same motto for who is an aquintenance and whom is not.

Kris

[lawrence stone]

Originally posted by OBRYANMAINT
i always wave and try to be friendly...i have guys in my area that i have waved to for years like they were my best buddy but have never had the opportunity to speak with them...and then i have had a few that are stone cold .....so i wave at them


Exactly why are you waving at other MEN?

Are you looking for a date?

[landscaper3]

3 of my best friends own lawn maintenance companies. I do the lawn maintenance and landscaping to make us different (a little)
And every landscape truck and crew we see (all our employees included) will wave and 95% WILL WAVE BACK!!! We even have 5 to 6 landscapers come down to our shop just to see our operation and talk with us and we run a friendly business and it seems most 95% of our competion is also run the same way and the RIGHT WAY!

[HOMER]

TL27,

The only competition I have is myself, and that should be true for everyone on here.

Matthew, been there and had the same thing happen to me. Must choose friends carefully grashoppa -- or learn how the world deals with nice people--usually not so nice!:angry:

[casey]

Originally posted by lawrence stone

Are you looking for a date?

Wrong forum Mr. Stone.

[Guido]

Originally posted by bubble boy
what does zone 7 & 8 refr too?

I don't know the real name for it, but you find the location you leave, and the zone is used to reference plant material that will grow in those conditions.

Some people identify their zone's in their profile so when they ask for plant reccomendations, a fellow poster can be more accurate.

Here's a map for you to print out.

Hope this helps!

[bubble boy]

thanks:)

[MIDSOUTH]

I try to be friendly to most of the other lco's, but some are just smartellic's that know it all and I'd rather keep my hand down.

[eggy]

For the most part everyone around here is freindly. Just yesterday I was picking up my ztr from the shop and the a fellow lco was there he was already out back on my ztr heading for my trailer, and loaded my ztr while I was inside...we trade buisness, andif they provide a service I will sub out to them, A few of us dont bid against each other.....the newbies seem to be the unfreindly ones.....but they also are the ones gone in a year.

[laserman]

Everyone around here is pretty friendly waves and all nods ect. haven't seen any a-holes yet.:cool:

[thelandscaper27]

CSRA,

I just think that there really..... well.., sometimes think that there is anyone who cares for other people like the good LCO's.
I sometimes think the most successful LCO's and landscapers who help other people in the field by giving them advice and giving hints on certain subjects.

Who believes it to be true?? ( I'm asking everyone)

Alot of LCO's that I know can be complete A-HOLES without a doubt. Sooner or later, I feel that they maybe the ones asking us for hints and tips.

:heart: GOD I LOVE THIS BUSINESS !!!!!!!!! :D

[outrunjason]

I wave at other LCO's. I get some waves back. But when I was 19 about 4 years ago I didn't get a wave. This company was mowing a lawn next to me and we met up at the divide and he spit in front of my mower on purpose. I was pissed but just kept on mowing.

Jason

[thartz]

Any of you get the 2 dogs sniffing hind end routine. I was on a job with one laborer when a large LCO picked up an account next to mine. He pulls up next to me ; drives real slow checking out my equipment very closely ( like he was checking to see if I was worthy to talk to) I guess I had nice enough equip. because he did say hi but not in an overly friendly way. The other one that cracks me up is the broken neck routine when someone passes you on the interstate going the other way and tries to inventory your trailer in about 2 seconds

[landman]

Networking is what it's all about. We all talk here so if we were to see each other we wouldn't say hi? In our area most landscapers are friendly with each other. Our company being one of the larger ones in the area with more equiptment than others, we do alot for each other. For example: we buy mulch by the trailer load and sell it to a couple local guys because most of them in the area need mulch early in the morning when they start at 6:30am we are there anyway to get our guys out and the local supplier doesn't open til 8 am. Also we do tree removal for some guys because we own tree equiptment. We also own backhoes, dozers and hydroseeding equiptment. We do for others then in return we give the smaller guys small job people want done gutters, residential lawn cuts, plus most of these guys are just 1 or 2 man LCO's and in the winter don't do anything so I use them for snow removal services. So as the saying goes, " one hand washes another" I feel it's true.

[Premo Services]

Any of you get the 2 dogs sniffing hind end routine. I was on a job with one laborer when a large LCO picked up an account next to mine. He pulls up next to me ; drives real slow checking out my equipment very closely ( like he was checking to see if I was worthy to talk to) I guess I had nice enough equip. because he did say hi but not in an overly friendly way. The other one that cracks me up is the broken neck routine when someone passes you on the interstate going the other way and tries to inventory your trailer in about 2 seconds

2 dogs sniffing their hind end routine...LMOA big time!!!!!!

I get that a lot. Most of the lco around here act like their $hit don`t stink. Their truck,equiptment and work are definetly not as nice as mine. Someone said about the real professionals, this is true. There is a big company around where i work and the owner came up and introduced himself, we talked awhile, and when he was leaving he told me that if I need a tool and he is working there, ask him he probally would have it.I thought that was pretty nice, I did not expect that, although I would probaly do the same thing.
Another time I see this co. everytime I go into subdivision and sometimes we chat. One day I seen him,we talked and I went on to work. Right after I started, the back tire on walk behind went flat. I loaded it up and started 0out to get it fixed. I passed him and he stopped me and said that was quick. I told him about the tire and he told me to pull over and he would try to fix it. He spent about 30-40 minutes and fixed it. I offered to give him 25.00 and he said don`t worry about it, mabey sometime I will need help.There are some good people left, but they are far and few between.