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BigEd
04-21-2001, 09:12 PM
I went out and got the Lazer Z EPS with 60" deck and 26 hp EFI Kohler.How do you guys with this machine like it?Anything I should be aware of.I paid 8,995.00 for it with 7 hours on it.
Heard that they have a lot of Wheaties! Good deal with the good seat and foot lift. 7hrs though? You paid "NEW" prices, you should get "0" hours. Just my opinion. You should get a tiny tach or equivilent to monitor rpm's. Let me know what the injected Kohler is spinning from the factory.
Ssouth
04-21-2001, 10:06 PM
what are wheaties?
Ground Pounder
04-21-2001, 10:25 PM
POWER!
Runner
04-22-2001, 01:44 AM
Ed, congratulations on the new mower, and you're going to LOVE it. I mean you-are-going-to-LOVE-IT! What a fine piece of machinery! I'd almost go as far as to say a work of art. I have one of these machines I bought about this time last year, and the only thing I regret is not getting one sooner. Of course, they weren't available any sooner, so it isn't all THAT bad. The 60" deck is just right for this machine, and you will have power to spare. The only thing you'll have to watch is what blades you use on this.. There are certain blades that will have a tendency to leave a slight streak in you rows. Good luck with it, and enjoy!
Givens Phillips
04-22-2001, 08:00 AM
I just bought one of these machines also, I paid $8800 with 0.4 hrs. So far I like everything but the cut. I have to go at about half speed to get a decent cut. I just put on a new set of blades hopefully that will remedy the problem. The old set (new with mower) appear as if they were never fully sharpened from the factory. Is this common with ExMark blades? This is my first ExMark, traded a JD M665. What blades do you recommend to use and which to stay away from? Thanks. I will love the machine when I fix this problem the seat is wonderful I can feel my legs at the end of the day!
oneEXMARKfan
04-22-2001, 08:23 AM
I have been wondering how the blades are at other Exmark dealers. I bought two sets last week, and I almost didn't want them after I saw the edge on them. I can understand them not being that sharp, but if they thought that a coat of paint could hide the flaws in them....hmmmm
Whatever they use to machine the edge really needs to be re-calibrated. (4 out of the 6 were the exact same) Will have to scan them and post a pic, can't really explain it.
Just real rough,with 2 different hieghts per edge. Will never wonder about the quality of catalog blades again. No way could they be any worse!
HOMER
04-22-2001, 11:25 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Seems like I brought this up the other day!
My friend with the Lazer has the same problem, leaving strips of uncut grass even with new blades. Sounds like the blades aren't overlapping as they should. If I were ya'll I would measure the blades to see if they are the exact length they should be. Maybe they sent a batch out that were a little short. 3 blades being 1/8" short adds up to strips being left.
Just a thought.
Eric ELM
04-22-2001, 11:52 AM
If the blades from the factory or after market blades were as sharp as I get them, there would be so many law suits from people getting hurt it would put lawn mower mfg out of business or drive the prices up higher than what they are now. The first thing when getting a new mower or blades is to sharpen them. They are not even close to being sharp.
Runner
04-22-2001, 08:36 PM
Exactly! Shees! Just the paint alone is 1/16" thick. The "2 different thicknesses" that you are seeing are simply the rough grind cut grooves in the bevel. As far as what blades to run and what blades to stay away from, Exmarks and DC blades work excellent. They are just like each other, except the DCs are a little thinner and lighter. The thing to STAY AWAY FROM is blades that have a U shape cut in them just inside the foil. You HAVE TO run SOLID FOIL BLADES with this deck or you will get a streaking effect. As far as having to go half speed, try a good sharp set, and you will be amazed that you will be able to go full bore in normal cutting conditions and still get a see it to believe it cut.
John DiMartino
04-22-2001, 08:45 PM
I used to get streaks of uncut grass with my DIxie,the deck was reverse pitched from the factory,ther dealer pitched it right,now its 99% better,I still get streaks ,but now its only once in a while on thin lawns or weedy lawns mostly.I tried 7 different sets of blades,with the deck pitched wrong-none of them worked right.
oneEXMARKfan
04-22-2001, 09:30 PM
They are most deff. the "roughest grind cuts" I've ever seen. So are the grooves your talking about the same across the edge? Cause these have two parts (about 2/3 & 1/3)both have deep grooves....but the "1/3 part" (towards the center of the blade) is alot higher than the other. Have seen alot of new blades, but never this "rough", and ROUGH dosen't even discribe how it is, trying to sharpen them with this file. (best thing I got to work with right now)
Runner
04-22-2001, 10:00 PM
Exmark fan, the cuts are many times like that. Sometimes they are straight lines (sort of diagonal over the bevel), other times they can look sort of like swirl marks, but deeper. John, I can definitely relate to the deck pitch issue! I've never had that trouble myself, but I've sen a few people who have. The streaking effect, however, I was refering to was a slightly discolored streak in the grass. All the grass was cut nice and evenly, but I was getting a funny streak about a third of the way into my deck,(left side) like right where the center blade swept forward. In a light row, the streak looked just a little bit lighter than the rest of the row - almost as if it had a wheel roll over it or something. And of course, in a dark row it was the same, with a dark streak. It wasn't THAT noticeable, but it bothered the daylights out of me. As I look around at other peoples cuts now, I can see that alot of other's mowers are doing the same thing. Atleast we were able to find the cause and the cure!:)
I don't know if this really will help but my dealer told me to make sure that the center blade is 180 degrees turned with the outer blades even to each other. He said this would allow grass to circulate better.
Runner
04-23-2001, 03:33 AM
Nope. Old wives tale. This is called "blade timing" and is actually necessary on some certain makes of mowers. For instance (but I'm not sure on this one) Walker mowers, where the blades turn in reciprocal of one another for the rear vacuum, it is essential, (someone please correct me if I'm wrong on the Walker). However, on any other mower, if you "time" the blades, by the time you engage the blades the first time, or there is a little more drag to cause some slippage on one of the belts, this will be for nothing, because the blades will inevitabally move within the belt spindle setting. There was a thread on this not long ago, it seems. Please don't take this negatively, because we appreciate all the input to learn by, but this is just another example of the dealer/salesman talking about something that they REALly have no experience with. They sell them, and talk a good conversation, but they don't USE them. I'll tell you, if I was going to be a salesman, THIS is the industry I'd love to be in right now. And....... WHY are my threads alway so long???
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