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robertbc
03-04-2006, 10:21 AM
I am just starting sealcoating as an add on of services.I been reading the post but stll confused on eguipment.A little background I want to do just driveways.Live on Cape Cod its always windy so could anybody give me advice on eguipment(55gl drums tank , starseal begiiers kit $1000
thks for any help would be appr.

joeE
03-05-2006, 03:55 PM
Robert
Do you want to broom & or spray? Hard to spray in the wind.
What equipment are you looking at?
Do you have a sealer dealer near you?
Any other info that would help us help you?

robertbc
03-05-2006, 04:39 PM
joeE thks for responds.I think i will brush just doing driveway.REally do not want touse 5gl buckets because of cost I cant find any dealers in my area(cape cod ma) so i was thinking of some sort of tankAny help would be great thks

joeE
03-06-2006, 10:46 AM
Robert
Sounds like you want to use a tank. Thats good. I would strongly suggest a steel cylinder with shaft & arms for mixing. I know you will be happy with it.
Any other type will be temp, until you wind up with a steel cylinder. After 7 years of sealing I couldn't imagine using a square tank. But thats just me, I see some guys have a different opinion on them. Maybe some of them will
offer there opinion so you get both sides.
Now, just about anything will work, the question is how much time & effort do you want put into mixing. If it doesn't get mixed well each & every time,
you will not get a good job. I flip a lever when I get to the job, that mixes it for me (hydraulic agitation), while Iam off getting the drive prepped. Ive seen guys mixing buckets, dipping buckets into 55 gal drums,ect,ect. I think thats wasted time, I know at the end of the day, I get one or two extra drives done. It would be wise to use that extra money to make your job easy.

Raw sealer is so thick it stacks, (not self leveling). The mixed product is not that thick but its still pretty thick. Add some sand and the mixing process is not a easy task. For that reason alone, I cant see how a square tank with re-circulating agitation could be effective, but thats just me.
So once you have a tank, you will need to fill it. I would call the 2 or 3 nearest sealer manufacturers and ask for the nearest distributors to you. Thats just another coater with a bulk tank. Check price for the amount of sealer you will purchase. Sealer weight is about 10.3 lbs per gal.

robertbc
03-08-2006, 11:02 AM
Thanks joeE.Saw a tank on ebay 860. i would like to spray assume faster. I read in some post people charge 10 15 and 20 per sqft .Do you mean for one coat or 2 .I have been reading man specs say 2 coats. So you would charge for both coats right?
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joeE
03-08-2006, 05:58 PM
Robert
That seems to depend on location, in my area its
.05 - .07 for lots....for 1 coat...... & .07 - .09 for 2
.06 -.08 for drives
I do 1 coat on drives, 2 on lots. The 2nd coat will take less time & sealer.
I use time & materials for charge rate.

I don't know what the .10 .15 .20 means but I sure wish I could make that much. Maybe thats the going rate for your area, but I would do more research.

Call 2 -3 closest sealer manufactures. They want to sell you sealer even if its
thru a distributor, they are very helpful & will know the going price per sq ft.
I buy 4,000 gal at a time direct from the closest manufacture to me which is about 200 miles away. He was able to tell me the going rate in my area when I first got started. Plus a lot more helpful info.

robertbc
03-10-2006, 08:33 AM
Is it possible to staret off with 300 gl tank and brush driveways,?I dont have the funds for the whole sysyem.MY other ? what would be the best way to get sealer out of tank? thks

joeE
03-10-2006, 02:44 PM
What kind of tank? What kind of openings?

robertbc
03-10-2006, 04:38 PM
It would be 300gal steel tank with hand crank. 2inch opening

joeE
03-10-2006, 10:10 PM
Do you mean like, ball valve, 2" pipe, elbow & down tube for bucket filler?

Or are you speaking of old dry sealer?

robertbc
03-11-2006, 07:03 AM
Joe sorry for all the stupid ?I am just trying to learn before junping in to sealcoating,The tnak would be like the 300 you had for sale .Is the only way to do this s to pour into buckets?

joeE
03-11-2006, 09:58 AM
Well, you need to get the sealer to the asphalt. Some guys build a sealer wheeler that holds 15-20 gal for bigger jobs. When I broom, I let my wand dump out 5 gal for me. My nephew made a 3 bucket wheeler for supplying his dad with sealer. Now he can spend more time resting in the shade.

robertbc
03-14-2006, 05:45 PM
I thiink i'm doomed before starting.Before buyng eguipment i would find a distributer for sealcoat.Called sealmaster,starseal and neyra.They all said knew of no dist in my area or state.So then i called up some of the bigger sealcoating companys they to had the same response. don't want to quit before i start but getting frustrated.

RayGauthier
03-14-2006, 07:13 PM
Hi Guy's
I could be very wrong but a guy from down in the States called me here in Canada that had seen my web site and wanted to chat. We were talking and he said that he use to seal but now there was a ban on the product that he was spraying I can't remember to product but that mite be your problem maybe call and see if that is your case. Look around maybe try the phone book and call a sealer and find out what they are using and track it down.
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joeE
03-15-2006, 11:15 AM
Robert
Nice post on NPCA. That should help. You may have to drive aways but Iam sure you will find someone to sell you sealer. The more gal they buy the lower the price is for them. Some guys dont like to see new sealer guys in there area. Go thru phone books of the surrounding areas. Just rember, if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

robertbc
03-16-2006, 07:16 PM
Well ifound someone that acan get sealer from thanks to a guy in NPCA.Sounds good he is a dist. and knows fo people near that would sell to me. He uses neyra,He is also having a show April 6 on equipment. it FEELS GOOD TO MAKE SOME PRGRESS.I let you know how i make out.Thanks for the support

RayGauthier
03-17-2006, 11:07 AM
Good luck on your new venture.
Hope everything works out for ya !!!!!!!
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