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fb1903
03-05-2006, 03:25 PM
Please excuse this newbie, residential question on your forum... but I am sure that the professionals can assist where others dare not tread.
Just bought a new home with a moderately sized 1.75 acre yard - I am thinking I need a 48" compact, zero turn machine (would like to complete the job in about 1 hour)... question is, do I need a commerical quality or will a residential model work just fine/hold up for a weekend warrior like me? :weightlifter: :weightlifter:
As with many of you guys, I tend to prefer using quality equipment, but am struggling with the significantly different (2x in some cases!) pricing for true commercial quality mowers. I take good care of my power equipment and want it to last, but I am certainly not going to be mowing all day long, many days per week as a commercial business would.
Any advice...?
I have been looking at a Cub Cadet RZT 50 ($3000 Home Depot), Gravley ZT 2348XL (~$4600), and a Ferris IS1500z ($5500), and even took a look at Kubota ZG20 ($$$).
Would appreciate any advice and guidance that you could provide...
Thanks in advance!!
procut
03-05-2006, 03:32 PM
Exmark makes a CT series ZTR, which is a heavy homeowner, light commercial machene. Toro makes the same thing with their Z Master 4000 Series. Last I knew these were both in the $5000 range. Also, you could look into the Toro Timecutter ZTRs, which are homeonwer machenes.
Trinity Lawn Care, LLC
03-05-2006, 03:48 PM
I have been looking at a Cub Cadet RZT 50 ($3000 Home Depot), Gravley ZT 2348XL (~$4600), and a Ferris IS1500z ($5500), and even took a look at Kubota ZG20 ($$$).
Is this the price range that you are looking in? I think that a good homeowners model will suit you fine. You are only looking to cut like once a week. The commercial grade equipment obviously is built to last longer, but it is made for those that are putting in some hours every week. Many LCO's will put as many hours on a machine in one week that would take you 1 or 2 years to do. When it comes to doing this as a biz MO is to buy commercial. If you are a homeowner buy HO. Unless you have the money to burn then buy the comm. If you take care of it you should have a machine that will last you next to forever with a homeowners amount of use. With that said my father-in-law has a Huskivarnia that he loves (Out Front Mulching deck) cost around $3k. Not to bad time wise. If you really want to get done fast you are probably gonna have to go Commercial (Faster Stronger engines/higher ground speeds) JMO
Shady Brook
03-05-2006, 03:52 PM
Your question will likely be redirected to the homeowner forum but I will give an opinion. You could consider a hustler fastrack as they seem very popular and reasonablly priced. You already have some good suggestions from the previous poster. I would suggest checking with local dealerships, or in local papers like the Indiana Auto RV in my area for used professional models. These units likely will sell for 50 to 60 percent of new with two years and 600 to 800 hours or so on them. You will have the best of commercial quality build as well as engine longevity. You will not likely ever wear these units out as well if well cared for. You could probably get a 60" commercial unit that would have you spending time with the family quicker for the same money in a homeowner 48"
Good luck
work_it
03-05-2006, 04:02 PM
Something else you may want to consider is a commercial w/b with a sulkie. Even a hydro unit will cost about the same as some of the HO Z's you've been looking into and will be much easier to maintain, take up a little less storage space, doesn't weigh as much ~ resulting in less soil compaction, and will last you a lifetime with proper maintenance.
mowerman90
03-05-2006, 04:10 PM
Check my machine out. It will probably last you the rest of your life in your situation and you'll have that 1.75 acre done in less than 45 min.
work_it
03-05-2006, 04:29 PM
Check my machine out. It will probably last you the rest of your life in your situation and you'll have that 1.75 acre done in less than 45 min.
Absolutely!!! And what a great price ($4700). That is one heck of a nice mower. One thing that may help you sell it faster...take a scrub pad and some soap to the front of the deck. Once you get the grass stains off; replace the existing pic. I know it seems a minor detail to us, but call it human nature. People are more attracted to shiny clean objects over dull and dirty ones.
fishinpa
03-05-2006, 09:58 PM
I just picked up an '06 Hustler Mini FasTrack 42" with the Honda engine for a hare over 3800.00 + tax. They seem to have a great reputation around here (Lawnsite.com). I've look at the Box Store ZTR's and they made me cringe. It's kind of disgusting that they get that kind of money for those stamped out things.
I really haven't spent any time on MY mower yet, but it sounds like if you want to kill about 2 acres in an hour, you going to need a 60" to 72" machine, with a BIG engine.
I always thought the Ferris's were a piece of art, but I was at a dealer the other day who sells both the Ferris and Hustler. I said something to the effect of "man that Ferris out there is beautiful".... Elbow deep in grease he walked away from the equipment he was working on and said "follow me".... we walked outside and he flipped the seats up on the Ferris and a commercial Hustler that were side-by-side and started pointing and talking... I don't think they'll be selling too many Ferris's in the future with how they feel about the "serviceability" of the Hustlers.
Just my $0.02.
Good luck, whichever way you decide to go.
Green King
03-05-2006, 11:33 PM
There are several machines to choose from I would for home use take a look at maybe a country clipper there are several of them around here being used and they are priced good.
work_it
03-06-2006, 12:52 AM
Country clipper is made by Hustler. Just don't know if it's built to the same standards.
bantam
03-06-2006, 08:36 AM
Hustler DOES NOT make Country Clipper mowers. Hustler is manufactured in Hesston KS, While Country Clipper is Manufactured in Corydon, IA. Both are fine pieces of equipment.
nmurph
03-06-2006, 10:28 AM
go to the hustler forum. read up on the mini fasttrak and fasttrak. either will meet your needs. also, that super z is a nice piece of equipment!
work_it
03-06-2006, 11:41 AM
Hustler DOES NOT make Country Clipper mowers. Hustler is manufactured in Hesston KS, While Country Clipper is Manufactured in Corydon, IA. Both are fine pieces of equipment.You're right...I stand corrected. I believe Country Clipper has been in business for 20+ years ... sorry about that.
I talked with some distributors at the Louisville L&G expo last year and found out that Hustler manufactures mowers for another company. If I'm right (this time) it's Land Pride I was thinking of.
POPO4995
03-06-2006, 02:29 PM
John Deere is introducing a residential ZTR around May 2006 that will have 42" through 54" Edge cutting decks. I believe it was priced around the $3900 range. Just another idea.:rolleyes:
fb1903
03-11-2006, 11:53 PM
Thank you all for your much appreciated advice. I will certainly take all of it into consideration and hope that I find the right mower for me. I am actually looking forward to clipping through the lawn this spring!
Pittsburgh Panther
03-13-2006, 02:21 PM
My lot is a little bigger than yours and I get it done in less that 1 hr. I also ponied up the extra money for the striper and it was worth it. The lawn looks great.
Don't mess with the cub. You will wear it out in less 5 to 7 years. My CT will last me the rest of my life. I only put 39 hrs on it last year vs. Cub that I put between 75 to 100 hrs. The CT is that much better. If your lawn was smaller than and acre I would say cub might be the ticket as long as the lawn was level but since the have almost 2 acres I would go with the CT.
tonyt
04-20-2006, 11:58 PM
Agreed, I to have the 48 CT and mow a little over 2 acres.
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