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Gnyus
03-14-2006, 01:24 PM
I'm planning to get another truck in next weeks. Currently I have a Mazda B3000 hauling my lawn trailer (2X21+1wb+clippings) and does just fine.

Last year I started doing lawn renovation and sod installation. I plan hauling a 10X5 tandem dump trailer with brakes on at least 3000 miles this summer. I also want to haul rented equipment such as motorized 1 yd barrow and sub compact tractor with the new truck. The truck whill not see highway speeds while towing heavy load.

Here's my dilema, the 1500hd is considerably cheaper and is much easy on gaz when pulling light loads then a 2500hd 6.0.

The pay load for the 1500hd is 3073 lbs while the 2500hd is rated at 3622 lbs (crew cab). The towing cap is 10200 lbs for the 1500hd and 12000 lbs for the 2500hd.

I am planning of keeping this truck for at least 3 seasons ( 20k - 30k miles). I would like to know which one will be the cheaper in maintenance.

Also I see a lot of people with 2500hd but barely no 1500hd, is there a reason?

Thanks

TLS
03-14-2006, 01:36 PM
Also I see a lot of people with 2500hd but barely no 1500hd, is there a reason?



I don't think they make them any more....do they?

The 2500HD has a beefier frame.

LB1234
03-14-2006, 02:00 PM
You should be able to answer your own question...

If you know what each can tow and know what you will be towing...then doesn't that answer your question?

The problem is not so much the what I can tow...but rather what I can stop.

TLS
03-14-2006, 02:05 PM
The problem is not so much the what I can tow...but rather what I can stop.

I believe brakes are the same between the two also.

Scag48
03-14-2006, 02:10 PM
I wouldn't get anything less than a 2500HD for towing. I think the rated towing capacity for most 1/2 ton trucks is only around 6-7K pounds. The dump trailer will weigh at least 3K and you'd only get 3-4K of payload. That sounds good, but that truck will never be able to stop that trailer. I have a 2500 and with 10K behind me it's pretty stable but I prefer a big Ford any day.

hosejockey2002
03-14-2006, 08:48 PM
The 1500HD is not really a half ton. It's 8600 GVWR, (similar to many 3/4 tons) with 8-lug wheels and the same drivetrain as the 6.0 powered 2500HD. It also has the same GCWR as the 6.0 powered 2500HD (16,000 lbs.). So for towing you probably won't see much difference between the two. The 2500HD has a slightly higher GVWR so you have more payload. If you go with the 8.1 or Duramax powered 2500HD you get a much higher tow rating as well as a larger rear axle.

rodneyskip
03-14-2006, 09:01 PM
The 1500 will probably be easier to sell when you need to. Especially if you are not putting that many miles on it.

TLS
03-14-2006, 09:04 PM
The 1500 will probably be easier to sell when you need to. Especially if you are not putting that many miles on it.

Sure you don't mean the opposite?

If that wasn't a typo, care to explain why?

ksss
03-14-2006, 09:15 PM
The 1500HD is certainly no half ton. The main difference between the two when new is really the gear ratio and engine availablity. The 2500HD is more set up for towing with the 6.0 as the base engine and more limited axle rating it would probably be more at home with a heavier payload. The 1500HD is no light weight if properly equipped. My suggestion would be if your running close to max. GVW I would go with the 2500 if you not pulling that heavy the 1500 would be plenty of truck and give a better ride.

toddnks
03-14-2006, 09:28 PM
I believe brakes are the same between the two also.

They are not the same.

The 1500hd has a CGVWR of 14-16K depending or the rear end, while the 2500hd has a CGVWR of 20K. That is 4K more towing ability.

That is comparing the 6000V8, since the 5.3 doesnt come in the 2500.

The 1500HD is crew cab while the 2500HD is extended cab only.

Chevrolet has also inflated these numbers on the 1500HD since it came out, because at that time it was rated at 8700.

Also to compare, I drive a F350 CC SRW PSD, which has 4 wheel disk while the chevrolet 2500 has rear drums, I didn't check the 1500, but think it has 4 wheel disks.

The Chevrolets do not get into real towing capacity until you hit the durmax and the 8100v8. The same can be said for ford with the v10 and the psd.

Unless you upsize your trailer, the 1500 will do good for a long time. The 2500 should sell for more money if it is not totally ragged out.

Jpocket
03-14-2006, 09:48 PM
The 1500hd will be plenty of truck, for lawn care and towing the dump trialer esp. with elec. brakes. Personally I prefer a 2500hd, but a 1500hd will ge the job done with no sweat, esp. since your only keeping it for 3 seasons. I don't care what size chevy you get it's gonna be a WORKIN ASS period.

bugthug
03-14-2006, 10:18 PM
I ordered an 03 gmc 1500hd with 3.73 gears and really did like the truck, until I tried to pull my 27 foot camper or my skid steer. It would pull it but trans temp was always super hot. Last summer someone planted a tree where I was driving and I did 26000 damage to it. I bought a 05 2500 hd.with 4.10 gears. I get better gas milage pulling a trailer than I did without on my 1500 hd. The 2500hd is a way better truck. Frame is thicker and brakes are bigger. And the 2500hd is a crewcab.

hosejockey2002
03-17-2006, 12:34 AM
The 1500HD and 2500HD with 4.10s and the 6.0 have the same GCWR, 16,000. The 2500HD does have 4 wheel disk brakes. (at least mine does)

TLS
03-17-2006, 09:11 AM
The 1500HD and 2500HD with 4.10s and the 6.0 have the same GCWR, 16,000. The 2500HD does have 4 wheel disk brakes. (at least mine does)

You are correct with everything.

Gnyus
03-17-2006, 10:40 AM
Thanx guys, you answered my question and gave me good info about both truck


I ordered an 03 gmc 1500hd with 3.73 gears and really did like the truck, until I tried to pull my 27 foot camper or my skid steer. It would pull it but trans temp was always super hot. Last summer someone planted a tree where I was driving and I did 26000 damage to it. I bought a 05 2500 hd.with 4.10 gears. I get better gas milage pulling a trailer than I did without on my 1500 hd. The 2500hd is a way better truck. Frame is thicker and brakes are bigger. And the 2500hd is a crewcab.

Which engine you have in the 2500 hd? and how is it doing pulling the skid steer / camper?

The more I read about it, the more I lean toward he 2500HD, also I'd like to know which gear I should get if I do 95% of city driving (speed not excessing 40 mph) and towing my mowing trailer or the dump trailer most of the time?

TLS
03-17-2006, 10:42 AM
Get the 4.10's unless your going with the Duramax.

Gnyus
03-17-2006, 10:46 AM
Thx for fast reply!i appreciate it!

bugthug
03-17-2006, 06:27 PM
My 2500 hd has the 6.0 with 4.10 gears. I really like the truck. It pulls the camper and the skid steer without a problem. I really wanted a duramax but the bigest negative is I do pest control sometimes 10 stops sometimes 20 letting the truck cool 2 or so minutes just anint gonna work. I know you could leave it running but I work in the projects sometimes and you know what I mean about that. I worked with the 2500 hd today stop and go all day and averaged 12.6 mpg. and the truck only has 3400 miles on it.

rodneyskip
03-20-2006, 12:46 AM
Sure you don't mean the opposite?

If that wasn't a typo, care to explain why?

I have owned both a half ton and a 3/4 ton. I found it was far easier to sell the 1/2 ton. This may just be regional? There are a ton more people looking for a used 1/2 ton than a 3/4 ton truck. Gas mileage is the main reason, but also ride quality. I know that the 3/4 ton is more of a workhorse- but let's face it- the average truck owner does not tow enough to justify the 3/4 ton truck.

TLS
03-20-2006, 05:32 AM
I have owned both a half ton and a 3/4 ton. I found it was far easier to sell the 1/2 ton. This may just be regional? There are a ton more people looking for a used 1/2 ton than a 3/4 ton truck. Gas mileage is the main reason, but also ride quality. I know that the 3/4 ton is more of a workhorse- but let's face it- the average truck owner does not tow enough to justify the 3/4 ton truck.

All I've really owned is 3/4-1T, so I really shouldn't comment on this. I still feel the opposite though. Mileage shouldn't be that much different.

rodneyskip
03-27-2006, 12:38 AM
All I've really owned is 3/4-1T, so I really shouldn't comment on this. I still feel the opposite though. Mileage shouldn't be that much different.


Mileage is a huge difference. I had an 03' 2500hd that got 10-11 mpg (not towing- just mixed hwy/city). Now I have an 03 1500 that gets 16-18 mpg. Both 4wd, both 3.73 gears. The way gas prices have shot up this last year has lots of people around here talking about the difference in mileage. I live in a rural part of Ar, where most everyone is in agriculture, and unless someone else is buying gas, they all would rather drive a 1/2 ton. And the average city guy who just wants a truck would sure rather have a 1/2 ton. There is a much bigger market for 1/2 tons.

Doug Z.
03-27-2006, 12:51 AM
I had a99 GMC 2500. Loved it. Never had any problems towing anything. Next thing you know, wife has a bun in the oven, and I need something with some cab space. I came across a used 03 Chevy 1500hd, crew cab. Did some checkning, and found out that everything on the 1500hd was the same or better than what I had on the 99 gmc 2500. I keep an eye on the tranny temp gauge, and never have i had a problem, of course, I do have the tranny cooler.