View Full Version : I DIDNT KNOW USING A STRING TRIMMER WAS ROCKET SCIENCE
Evan528
04-28-2001, 09:30 PM
I have been working solo for the most part (with the exeption big landscape installs) since I started in this buisiness 8 years ago. I am at the point now where I am so buissy doing landscape installs that I can hardly find time to cut grass anymore. I Came to the conclution that I must find help at least for the mowing aspect of my business. Over the past year I have tried 3 guys to help me mow. I ussually do all the mowing and have them doing the trimming and edging with the string trimmer. Every person I hire either can edge straight, cant trim without scalping or forgets to trim certain areas. When I tell people that I cant find anyone to help me that can actually use a trimmer properly they look at me like im crazy! "any idiot can mow lawns" they say. I truly cant find anyone to help me that works to my standard and have been forced to turn down many jobs this year do to not having help! I am working 12-13 hours a day and working 7 days a week just to keep up! where do you find help who can trim?
Fantasy Lawns
04-28-2001, 09:35 PM
weed wacking ....is like the frosting on the cake ....it takes lots of practice ...n' then more practice ;->
LoneStarLawn
04-28-2001, 10:09 PM
I always had said this...always have new hires mow then work up to trimming. The difference between this company and that can be the trimming. Why leave that to a newbie..cutting is much easier than trimming.
thelawnguy
04-28-2001, 10:21 PM
"any idiot can mow lawns"
Which is why you should hire an idiot to do the trimming. Rocket scientists are good at polishing rockets lol but it takes an idiot to edge a straight line.
John DiMartino
04-28-2001, 10:21 PM
Trimming-I have the same problems,they always forget a few spots,or scalp into the dirt,once its scalped,weeds will take over.I wont let a new guy mow until he can trim,A mower can do much more damage than a trimmer if a mistake is made IMO.
Hunter Landscape
04-28-2001, 10:53 PM
man, y'all are speaking my language!
sometimes my helper just doesn't seem to actually grasp the ideas of "don't weedeat any lower or any higher than the grass being cut, don't edge through any new grass in the beds, follow the already edged path. , etc, etc. i took him home early wednesday and said we were through for the day and i continued to work "the right way" until the evening.
i know what you are thinking..... tell him and show him on how to approach these things. well, i have done both. i tell him these things and how to find a weedeating pattern for a yard and it never really seems to hit home. if it does sink in just a little, it is usually forgotten by the time we get to the next customer's home. then, once again i am mowing and constantly checking on what he has messed up, missed, or worse yet, completely forgotten. how can i make him give a ***t? or is it useless?
i never want to feel ashamed of a less than perfect job done. lately i have felt that way.
getting a man to do his best is what seperates the
cream from the rest in the area of personnel managment.
i know how to recognize these men ,and ive known a few who were unsurpased as supervisers etc.
dont think i ever really joined the group though.
wish i had
Roger
04-28-2001, 11:37 PM
Is part of the problem the terminology? Weedeater ..., what idea does that connote?
I expect that most of use use string TRIMMERS for our trimming. Yea - it might sound picky. But, trimming implies some exactness, care, good results. But, WEEDEATING - that just means "knock 'em down." There is no need to take much care, just get the area cleared out of the high stuff.
I've had many customers if I can "use my weedeater to clear away" some area. "No, because I don't have equipment to do that - my trimmer is intended for fine work at the edge of your lawn." And, that is truly the case. In most of the cases, the material to be cut is too big for a string trimmer anyway.
Perhaps the attitude of the helper about what he/she is expected to do is tempered by what is said about the trimming process. Maybe not - just something to think about.
P.S. Where did the term "weedeater" originate? Wasn't it the name of some product many years ago?
Well, I must be one of the few lucky ones. I hired a guy three years ago, he was a little rusty at first, but after 2 weeks he had mastered the trimmer, with in a month he could cut grass with the best of them. Great, long term employees are what to look for. Good luck searching.
I would say that about 50% of the people that I have hired in the past can't weed eat for crap. I remember one perticular person that was weed eating the same spot when I was finished mowing and I had to drop him off at home right away.
good points roger.by the way think you are right about the term weedeater.a requirement of all older outbuildings is at least one weedeater (green) gas or electric, gathering dust in a corner somewhere.:)
ps forgot gas must be 2 yrs old or older to qualify
ProScapeOM
04-29-2001, 07:03 AM
I am having the same problem now. Too much work and not enough me to go around. I am thinking of using a staffing company to find me a guy. Has anyone done this and was it worth it?
Charles
04-29-2001, 08:07 AM
I had the same problem when I had helpers. I had to go behind them to make sure they didnt miss stuff and they always did. One guy would run out a whole roll of string in no time I guess so he could take a smoke break and spend 15 minutes restringing. He would meticously clean the trimmer head LOL. No amount of counselling(yelling) at him would change his habit. Most didnt know how to corner drive or walk and would slice trees of were just too #$%^& slow. Figured this is not worth the hassle and went back to one man.
dan deutekom
04-29-2001, 01:27 PM
Don't always blame the employee about trimming all the time. I can't run one well for love or money. I scalp, miss spots and chew up line. I know the theory but it don't translate from my brain to my hands. I always get someone that can do it well do it when with me.
Skolnick's Landscaping
04-29-2001, 03:04 PM
Hunter Landscape
I had to do the same thing today the guy who usually helps me had other obligations today so i had to try this new guy who stopped by one of my job sites the other day and said he was looking for a job in landscaping and i said well are you experienced and he said yes i have worked for a few landscapers before and he said he knew how to weed wack and edge a lawn well i tested him out to day and fired him after in hour i was cutting these four lawns in a row and i toold him to start trimming in the back of one well when i was done mowing all four i was wondering where the hell he got to i thought he got lost some where but then i heard the weed wacker reving up and down up and down so i walked into the back yard where i had heard it and he was still on the first back yard weed wacking around trees like he was edging a side walk i said what the hell are you doin i thought you knew how to weed wack and he said well what am i doing wrong idiot hold the head paralel to the groun so i took his ass home and told him to get a job with another landscaper and butcher up there lawns
jeffyr
04-29-2001, 03:44 PM
I was using crossfire line for a while---cut great. But the occasional help that I use would rip into every fencepost and tree around- I went back to less aggressive round line to save the trees.
jeffyr
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