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Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 12:04 PM
I will likely put in my ads "-Fertilizer" even though I know little about it.
You walk around with a spreader, first practicing on your own lawn ofcourse.
So I would like to know if I can buy fertlizer in bulk somewhere, home depot only has, I think they were 15lbs bags of something.
I just need some advice about buying a local supplier (please don't say Lesco), types to use (I live in Central Canada), and any more info you might be able offer this as a sideline to lawn care ie. types of spreaders, amount of fertilizer, is it ok to use home depot product.
I've also read about weed apps that are granular info on that would be welcome as well.:waving: :canadaflag:
stumper1620
03-24-2006, 12:29 PM
Well, I don't know canadian law, but I would guess the Libs up there are pretty strict about the environmental impacts of inexperianced applicators, My recommendation is you really need to learn what you should know before even thinking of doing this. get some books and study, then you can go get certified before you try doing something you haven't got a clue about.
I'm sure Kris could chime in here and tell you more about the laws in your country, but I can tell you this. If you were in this country everything you mentioned is against the law for you to do with out the proper knowledge, training, certifications, licenses and insurance.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 01:14 PM
Nope, I just phoned the city. I don't need to be licsensed So can I get some of my questions answered?
As for training, I don't think I need to go to school to learn how to apply granualar fertilizer and as for getting books, I gave up on lawn care books when I found this forum.
NattyLawn
03-24-2006, 01:33 PM
Are you serious?
So you know nothing about fert and the application of it but we're supposed to give you all the answers...
Are you serious?
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 01:42 PM
Are you serious?
So you know nothing about fert and the application of it but we're supposed to give you all the answers...
Are you serious?
Yes I am. And if you think walking around with a spreader is Brain Surgery then you Must be Juthro Bodene.
KEEP YOUR THREAD CRAPPING SPAM TO YOURSELF.
Any helpful posters?
stumper1620
03-24-2006, 02:48 PM
Nope, I just phoned the city. I don't need to be licsensed So can I get some of my questions answered?
As for training, I don't think I need to go to school to learn how to apply granualar fertilizer and as for getting books, I gave up on lawn care books when I found this forum.
Cities are not the ones who would have a say in this, this would probably be a issue for the environmental depts. or possibly the natural resources department. I really don't know the depts. canada has, but I really doubt that they have no regulations as far as fert and pest applications are concerned.
sorry, I will not advise on how to do something you really show no knowledge about, If you think all fertilizing is, is just pushing a spreader, you really are clueless about any aspect of the business.
StBalor
03-24-2006, 02:50 PM
Stumper, what books do you suggest. I would like to read up on this a little and maybe get certified in the future
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 03:01 PM
sorry, I will not advise on how to do something you really show no knowledge about, If you think all fertilizing is, is just pushing a spreader, you really are clueless about any aspect of the business.
How about you just don't post. For the most part granualar fert IS just pushing a spreader any Home Owener can do it. If You don't know that you don't know ****!
Again, are there any helpful posters in the forum?
I think I should repost this in the commercial mowing section, much more helpful there.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 03:05 PM
Stumper, what books do you suggest. I would like to read up on this a little and maybe get certified in the future
Now that's the kind of question Stumper would like. He can just google the answer and copy/paste the result, then he can pretend he's GenuuuINe Brain Surgeon.. I mean fertilizer scientist. lol.
turf hokie
03-24-2006, 03:34 PM
How about you just don't post. For the most part granualar fert IS just pushing a spreader any Home Owener can do it. If You don't know that you don't know ****!
Again, are there any helpful posters in the forum?
I think I should repost this in the commercial mowing section, much more helpful there.
Hey, easy there killer.
Canada is pushing crazy laws banning all pesticides because guys like you think you can go to home depot buy a bag of anything and just push a spreader around to make a buck.
Yes, any idiot can push a spreader. My customers hire my service because of my knowledge of how to maintain a safe and healthy lawn. And there is far more to that than "pushing a spreader around".
You can't expect to come on this site and glean information from people who have college degrees and years upon years of experience. Especially when you admit that you won't pick up a book to learn on your own because you found lawnsite
The only thing you learn from spoon feeding is the shape of the spoon. Come back when you are willling to do a little leg work on your own to learn this end of the industry.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 03:48 PM
Hey, easy there killer.
Canada is pushing crazy laws banning all pesticides because guys like you think you can go to home depot buy a bag of anything and just push a spreader around to make a buck.
Yes, any idiot can push a spreader. My customers hire my service because of my knowledge of how to maintain a safe and healthy lawn. And there is far more to that than "pushing a spreader around".
You can't expect to come on this site and glean information from people who have college degrees and years upon years of experience. Especially when you admit that you won't pick up a book to learn on your own because you found lawnsite
The only thing you learn from spoon feeding is the shape of the spoon. Come back when you are willling to do a little leg work on your own to learn this end of the industry.
Have you compared lawn care books to the info on this web site? I don't think you have read a book yourself in fact if it wasn't for the fact that your typing, I would think that you couldn't read at all judging by your post.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRING WITH ASKING FOR ADVICE? IF YOU DON'T KNOW SQUAT, WHY ARE YOU POSTING?
A GUY ASKS FOR ADVICE ON APPLYING GRANUAL FERTIZILER AND ALL HE GETS IS THREE STOOGES CLAIMING ITS TOO COMPLICATED. ROFL YOU turf hokie, stumper1620, AND NattyLawn ARE THREE THREADCRAPPING CLOWNS.
If you can't offer up any advice then my guess is your here to LEARN, IN WHICH CASE, WHY ARE YOU POSTING?
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 03:52 PM
Yes, any idiot can push a spreader..
You can't expect to come on this site and glean information from people who have college degrees and years upon years of experience...
An idiot with a college degree, lol. What clown.
"I went to college, I push spreader arwound. oooo I'm so cool" claimed turf pokie
turf hokie
03-24-2006, 03:55 PM
Any helpful posters?
Nope.............
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 04:00 PM
Nope.............
My God, you weren't kidding about your PHd. You must have double majored, spreading Bull... I mean fertilizer AND English major. You can sure spin a tale.
Truf Pokie - Poet/Fert man. Have spreader will travel.
6'7 330
03-24-2006, 04:29 PM
Firstly,You need the spreader set up properly.I will give you tips which will achieve results that will leave your customers breathless.
Tip-1 Despite what the label recommends, set your spreader at three times the recommended rate.
Tip-2 You need to get an even uniform distribution of the fertilizer, this is achieved by using deliberation, walk one step at a time, slowlyyyy, and deliberately.
Tip-3 When you come to an end of a pass, stop and wait 30 seconds before make a turn,take your time making the turns, always leaving the spreader engaged.
Tip-4 If your have product in the spreader after completing an application on a customer's lawn, just pour it out in a pile on the customer's drive, it will work it way into the lawn.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 04:32 PM
Firstly,You need the spreader set up properly.I will give you tips which will achieve results that will leave your customers breathless.
Tip-1 Despite what the label recommends, set your spreader at three times the recommended rate.
Tip-2 You need to get an even uniform distribution of the fertilizer, this is achieved by using deliberation, walk one step at a time, slowlyyyy, and deliberately.
Tip-3 When you come to an end of a pass, stop and wait 30 seconds before make a turn,take your time makeing the turns.
Tip-4 If your have product in the spreader after completeing an application on a customer's lawn, just pour it out in a pile on the customer's drive, it will work it way into the lawn.
I've heard Dumbass rednecks come in groups of four. Your Post was particularly clever. Have your cousin give you a big kiss.
lqmustang
03-24-2006, 04:38 PM
All I can say is amazing. :dizzy:
I can see we picked up a new troll in the 2 months I was away from Lawnsite.
jason u
03-24-2006, 04:45 PM
Freddy,
You are giving people the wrong impression of Canadians. This site is for legitimate questions. Ask a real question and you will get a real answer, but if you want to sit back and relax and wait for the rest of the industry to tell you how to do things, then, Freddy, you are sadly mistaken, and should take your concerns elsewhere.
dkeisala
03-24-2006, 05:17 PM
Oh come on, spreading fertilizer isn't rocket science. With that said, I did manage to fry a lawn years ago when I was just starting out. It was an expensive mistake and no better way to p!ss off a client. I was terrified of the stuff for a while after that.
In Washington, we don't need licensing (yet) for fert or lime apps but we do for any pesticide which covers anything from Roundup to moss control to grub control and everything else in between.
stumper1620
03-24-2006, 05:19 PM
Freddy,
You are giving people the wrong impression of Canadians. This site is for legitimate questions. Ask a real question and you will get a real answer, but if you want to sit back and relax and wait for the rest of the industry to tell you how to do things, then, Freddy, you are sadly mistaken, and should take your concerns elsewhere.
Freddy is the same guy that was talking about under the table pay about a week ago.
I'm thinking Faraway! not quite his style, I know these post remind me of somebody just not sure who.
jason u
03-24-2006, 06:17 PM
Freddy is the same guy that was talking about under the table pay about a week ago.
I'm thinking Faraway! not quite his style, I know these post remind me of somebody just not sure who.
I hope this "Freddy" does not come to my neck of the woods, cause he would be shut down quickly, alberta does not tolerate people who believe that they are above the system.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 06:39 PM
Freddy,
You are giving people the wrong impression of Canadians. This site is for legitimate questions. Ask a real question and you will get a real answer, but if you want to sit back and relax and wait for the rest of the industry to tell you how to do things, then, Freddy, you are sadly mistaken, and should take your concerns elsewhere.
Did you even read my original Post? If so what was not legitamate about that?
Don't tell what a Canadian really is.:usflag: We are just americans that prefer hockey to baseball. Plus we are grossly over taxed.
jason u
03-24-2006, 06:50 PM
Ok, you want info on granular apps, here it is:
In Alberta (maybe manitoba as well), there are no special licenses needed, there is no need to be certified as the government here does not recognize fertilizer as a pesticide. Once you start to apply herbicides, fungicides, etc, a pesticide applicator's certificate is required (more info will be available on your province's website).
Granular applications require less time to apply than liquid applications, but require that the applicator has a solid knowledge of how-to-apply. Many a lawn has been burned because of poor applications.
If you would like to know more, just ask.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 06:51 PM
I hope this "Freddy" does not come to my neck of the woods, cause he would be shut down quickly, alberta does not tolerate people who believe that they are above the system.
I was asking about Cash jobs because I am always on site now but when I expand into lawn care I won't be (if I get enough work). In that thread some worth while poster, like the majority of lawnsite.com are, said that he doesn't accept cash anymore because he didn't want his employees collecting cash.
I also learned that maybe mailing the bills to the customer by the 20th and have "due on the 1st" is another great Idea. I have always dropped off the bills myself. This month its not snowing I just had to drive all over the place dropping off bills. My time and Gas > stamps. That Cash thread was a great thread. This one isn't I think that is due to wanna be's taking deep breaths while they apply Pesticide.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 06:55 PM
Ok, you want info on granular apps, here it is:
In Alberta (maybe manitoba as well), there are no special licenses needed, there is no need to be certified as the government here does not recognize fertilizer as a pesticide. Once you start to apply herbicides, fungicides, etc, a pesticide applicator's certificate is required (more info will be available on your province's website).
Granular applications require less time to apply than liquid applications, but require that the applicator has a solid knowledge of how-to-apply. Many a lawn has been burned because of poor applications.
If you would like to know more, just ask.
I know you don't need a license for Granular fert. (well at least 90% sure) For the Pesticides, if I do that it won't be till next year and I will take a course at assinboine college (just so I can put that on my flyer). In fact I wish I had time to take the course now...
I'm expanding into lawn mowing basically. I will also buy a power raker to offer spring clean up. All I was doing was trynig to get some advice on using a spreader with granular fertilizer.
SodKing
03-24-2006, 07:30 PM
So....lets see....you insult us, the licensed degreed pesticide applicators, and want our advise in return? Good luck.
I will also point out that you said you wanted info on "weed apps that are granular". Here you clearly do not differentiate between a pesticide app and fertilizer.
Treating a lawn is not just following the spreader around all day. You have to properly diagnose the pest problem (that means you need to know the hundreds of things that can affect a lawns health), read the label (to know at which rate to apply the product), calibrate your spreader, treat in a proper fashion so as apply an even amount over the entire lawn, post the lawn (which Manitoba has regulations for) and advise your clients as to the proper re-entry interval and after application care.
So for advise.....read the books your Ministry of agriculture gives you to study for your pesticide certificate and then come back here and tell us how you did.
Oh, by the way I am a scientist or Plant Biologist to be more specific.
eh?
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 07:46 PM
So....lets see....you insult us, the licensed degreed pesticide applicators, and want our advise in return? Good luck
Well I read your first sentence so I don't need to read the rest of your drivel. If YOU would have read the thread you would have realized that I was merely responding to insults directed at me.
But I did learn something from this thread and that is that people in the spraying business seemed to be very defensesive and would rather stunt a new company's growth rather than answer some simple questions. That and judging the average intelligence of the posters in this thread, I think I will easily grab market share next year when I get a spray truck or two.:cool2:
I got this feeling that the hostility I have experienced in this thread will manifest in real life next year with all these weed franchises we got here over charging customers.:canadaflag:
eh?
Why did you say that? eh?
As for all the hundreds of things you say you know, I don't want to learn this year maybe next winter, maybe this year, I'm not sure. But for this spring all I want is to be able to put fertilizer on a customers property at their request, I won't be actively selling it though it will be on my website and adverts, with some confidence that I'm not wrecking their lawn. I've made this obvious. What is also obvious is the lack of quality control in american "Fertilizer College" education they should have higher prerequesites than a Grade 6 education.
NattyLawn
03-24-2006, 08:47 PM
The reason we say what we say is we don't need any more idiots in the industry that think pushing a spreader is easy and that anyone can do it. We want to get away from that "lawnboy" image and people like you that think it's an overnight thing HURT THE WHOLE INUDUSTRY. I really don't want a reply. To me, you look like an idiot that wants to start his business in as little time as possible. You have 230 posts in 2 weeks and you call the rest of us trolls. F*!K YOU!
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 09:10 PM
The reason we say what we say is we don't need any more idiots in the industry that think pushing a spreader is easy and that anyone can do it. We want to get away from that "lawnboy" image and people like you that think it's an overnight thing HURT THE WHOLE INUDUSTRY. I really don't want a reply. To me, you look like an idiot that wants to start his business in as little time as possible. You have 230 posts in 2 weeks and you call the rest of us trolls. F*!K YOU!
I never called anybody a troll, I said your Idiot's. Since you can't seem to distinguish between the two words...I'm right:hammerhead:
Before I joined the forum I was reading books, I have eleven or 12 of them and was searching around for info on lawn care. When I started reading on lawnsite.com all the books became irrelevent. I've been reading on this site for 4-6 hours a day trying to learn as much as I can and it's a good thing the people in the 'Starting in business' and 'commercial lawn mowing' forums are more helpful than you and your trolls.
Having had a very very positive response in the other forums this one, "the Pesticide Boys Club" makes me wonder. I feel like I wandered into a self help group tourette syndrome or something. Lol, don't take this the wrong way I've always loved the Circus. Clowns are so Funny.:laugh:
and I'll tell you another thing, a mediocre plan vigorously executed is better than a great plan where nothing ever gets done. In other words, I don't need to know everything.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 09:16 PM
Are you serious?
So you know nothing about fert and the application of it but we're supposed to give you all the answers...
Are you serious?
THis is your FIRST post in this thread.
IF YOU'RE NOT HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THEN YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A TROLL.:waving:
grandview (2006)
03-24-2006, 09:36 PM
If I was with the D.E.C. and was reading this thread I would get a subpoena and find out who you are and band you from getting a license.
Your probably the type of guy who would start at the property line and throw fert. 6 ft. into the next yard.
It's guys that think they know how to do everything on the first day make my job harder and more expensive.
get rich
03-24-2006, 09:43 PM
WOW...TOO MUCH LAUGHTER....STOMACH CRAMPING...:laugh: Like some have already said...you insult everyone and then think you'll get answers on how to do something that everyone else on here has either college education or have taken classes and studied books too get a license! Good luck!! Keep us posted on how the fert thing works out for ya....you said it yourself, its as easy as pushing a spreader around a lawn right and you don't need a license in canada...well have at it smart a**. I take offense to someone saying that what i do (licensed and insured) and have done for about 10 years now is as easy as walking around a lawn behind a spreader:angry: . You might try lesco for your info, they'll set you up with a program to run. Be cause i know without an education or first hand knowledge you won't know what disease or bug problem is coming till its to late. This thread is too funny not to chime in....good luck nightmare on elm street, nightmare is what you'll end up with.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 09:49 PM
If I was with the D.E.C. and was reading this thread I would get a subpoena and find out who you are and band you from getting a license.
Your probably the type of guy who would start at the property line and throw fert. 6 ft. into the next yard.
It's guys that think they know how to do everything on the first day make my job harder and more expensive.
Band me? wedding band?
Hey Dumbass I don't need a license didn't you read the thread, oooo my bad. You must have meant if you GOT the DEC to read it TO you. OMG what am I typing this for, you can't read...:cry:
make my job harder and more expensive.
What is your job? I'm guessing you hand out fries.
Freddy_Kruger
03-24-2006, 09:51 PM
WOW...TOO MUCH LAUGHTER....STOMACH CRAMPING...:laugh: Like some have already said...you insult everyone and then think you'll get answers on how to do something that everyone else on here has either college education or have taken classes and studied books too get a license! Good luck!! Keep us posted on how the fert thing works out for ya....you said it yourself, its as easy as pushing a spreader around a lawn right and you don't need a license in canada...well have at it smart a**. I take offense to someone saying that what i do (licensed and insured) and have done for about 10 years now is as easy as walking around a lawn behind a spreader:angry: . You might try lesco for your info, they'll set you up with a program to run. Be cause i know without an education or first hand knowledge you won't know what disease or bug problem is coming till its to late. This thread is too funny not to chime in....good luck nightmare on elm street, nightmare is what you'll end up with.I was just playing with some noobs :) or should I say boobs...
I'm done with this thread.
grandview (2006)
03-24-2006, 09:54 PM
this hole your digging is going to be so deep you won't even be able to reach the handles on your spreader to push.
lawnaggie
03-25-2006, 08:05 AM
Freddy, I hope you don't have too much invested with your outlook on this business. I am a College grad. who is constantly humbled by all the variables in this industry.
Tscape
03-25-2006, 09:07 AM
Freddy,
I think you are too smart to take advice from any us. Just go do it, man. I mean you said you have already read 11 or 12 books. You are set, dude. Go push that spreader. But wait, reading these forums has made your books somehow irrelevant? OK, so you need help? Try trial and error, bud. You are destined for greatness.
Here is a point to ponder: How do you apply 1/2lb of N per 1000 sq ft. of a product whose analysis is 24-5-11?
I bet your brain just exploded and splattered against the inside of your skull.
SodKing
03-25-2006, 11:27 AM
Freddy's Company motto:
Fake it 'till you make it.
Where are the monitors, keep an eye on this thread and leave the calendar girls alone.
Freddy_Kruger
03-25-2006, 12:17 PM
Freddy, I hope you don't have too much invested with your outlook on this business. I am a College grad. who is constantly humbled by all the variables in this industry.
I don't think I need to go to college to learn learn the basics of spreading granular fertilizer and you constantly learn in every business.
Freddy_Kruger
03-25-2006, 12:28 PM
Freddy,
I think you are too smart to take advice from any us. Just go do it, man. I mean you said you have already read 11 or 12 books. You are set, dude. Go push that spreader. But wait, reading these forums has made your books somehow irrelevant? OK, so you need help? Try trial and error, bud. You are destined for greatness.11 or 12 books on lawn care and YES these forums, at least the "Just Starting in business" + "Commercial Lawn Mowing" are helpful this particular forum is full of asses like yourself.
Here is a point to ponder: How do you apply 1/2lb of N per 1000 sq ft. of a product whose analysis is 24-5-11?
I bet your brain just exploded and splattered against the inside of your skull.
OH geee Whiz, Jethro BooooDeene and his 6th grade education is confusing me with his riddles:cry:
Oh wait, I have an idea. I will forgo the Phd in Bull sh**, I mean Phd in Fertlizer and ask the guy at Home Depot.
I just want what is most popular and I'll spread it with the instuctions and learn from there, perhaps find a more useful forum.
Freddy_Kruger
03-25-2006, 12:31 PM
Freddy's Company motto:
Fake it 'till you make it.
LOL, your such a Dumbass. That is Exactly what I will do and what every successful business man does.
Learn as much as you can and learn as you go. People who think they need to know everything or that conditions have to be just right never get off the launching pad.
You sweep the launching pad; get out of my way.
Freddy_Kruger
03-25-2006, 12:38 PM
What a complete ass freddy is........ Johnny rotten would be a better moniker..... Johnny Rotten? I LOVE IT:cool2:
As you are destined to flame out the same way Freddy....
The industry will be a better place when you take your position next to the above mentioned.
good luck *******.Thanks:cool2:
Freddy_Kruger
03-25-2006, 12:41 PM
Where are the monitors, keep an eye on this thread and leave the calendar girls alone.
I know what you mean isn't awful how I was verbally attacked and insulted when all I asked for was some advice.
I had the audactiy to ask this question:
I will likely put in my ads "-Fertilizer" even though I know little about it.
You walk around with a spreader, first practicing on your own lawn ofcourse.
So I would like to know if I can buy fertlizer in bulk somewhere, home depot only has, I think they were 15lbs bags of something.
I just need some advice about buying a local supplier (please don't say Lesco), types to use (I live in Central Canada), and any more info you might be able offer this as a sideline to lawn care ie. types of spreaders, amount of fertilizer, is it ok to use home depot product.
I've also read about weed apps that are granular info on that would be welcome as well.:waving: :canadaflag:
Freddy_Kruger
03-25-2006, 01:11 PM
Hey Freddy. i kind of lost my cool for a moment. i should apologise. after all i failed to recognise your canadian.
you want everything subsidized.... including your learning curve.
this is an honorable profession, i take offense to those looking for short cut's, or believing there is anything easy in life that is worthwhile.
how foolish of me.
Hey Ice broker I would also like to apologize I read your other post and now I know you don't even have a spreader I understand you will be spreading out fertilizer by hand. I also understand you support illegals and are probably mexican yourself, I think that spreading out fert by hand will be right up your alley.:canadaflag:
oh damn:( they don't have a Mexican flag for you.
Seriously, your a newly graduated business noob with out a pot to piss in. lol.
Tscape
03-25-2006, 02:13 PM
11 or 12 books on lawn care and YES these forums, at least the "Just Starting in business" + "Commercial Lawn Mowing" are helpful this particular forum is full of asses like yourself.
OH geee Whiz, Jethro BooooDeene and his 6th grade education is confusing me with his riddles:cry:
Oh wait, I have an idea. I will forgo the Phd in Bull sh**, I mean Phd in Fertlizer and ask the guy at Home Depot.
I just want what is most popular and I'll spread it with the instuctions and learn from there, perhaps find a more useful forum.
There you go then, ask the guy at Home Depot. Why bother us? By the way, these are the calculations we make every day in the business. I dare you to try to answer my question.
And I have a degree also. Go ahead and bash me for that, genius.
Tscape
03-25-2006, 02:18 PM
I just need some advice about buying a local supplier
Why don't you buy Turfgrass Inc? They are a supplier.....You are about as smart as a box of hammers.
muddstopper
03-25-2006, 03:24 PM
Freddy, you are right, there are a lot of fakers on this forum. More than a few that dont know their arse from a hole in the ground. Problem is, your attitude insures that those that do know what they are talking about, aint going to help you. Its not because they dont want to help someone get started in this business, its because they dont have the time to put up with smart a$$es like you. You have read 11 or 12 books and think lawn site gives better information. comeon, sure there is a lot of information on lawnsite, but most of it comes from books. Experience is one thing you cant get from a book. That is where lawnsite can help you, with the proper atitude the experienced people here can answer some of your questions, but not if you piss them all off first. I dont know any of the people you are argueing with, I cant vouch for their level of knowledge or experience, but I can guarantee that those that do know wont waste time on someone that showes your contemp for the industry they make their living with.
Freddy_Kruger
03-25-2006, 05:41 PM
Freddy, you are right, there are a lot of fakers on this forum. More than a few that dont know their arse from a hole in the ground. Problem is, your attitude insures that those that do know what they are talking about, aint going to help you. Its not because they dont want to help someone get started in this business, its because they dont have the time to put up with smart a$$es like you. You have read 11 or 12 books and think lawn site gives better information. comeon, sure there is a lot of information on lawnsite, but most of it comes from books. Experience is one thing you cant get from a book. That is where lawnsite can help you, with the proper atitude the experienced people here can answer some of your questions, but not if you piss them all off first. I dont know any of the people you are argueing with, I cant vouch for their level of knowledge or experience, but I can guarantee that those that do know wont waste time on someone that showes your contemp for the industry they make their living with.Is that the impression I gave you with my first Post?
heather lawn sp
03-25-2006, 06:25 PM
Sorry to say , yes it is.
Have you had time to read my pm yet?
muddstopper
03-25-2006, 06:45 PM
No, your first post you admitted that you didnt know anything about apps. it was your second post where you started with the attitude.
mikesturf
03-25-2006, 06:55 PM
Nope, I just phoned the city. I don't need to be licsensed So can I get some of my questions answered?
As for training, I don't think I need to go to school to learn how to apply granualar fertilizer and as for getting books, I gave up on lawn care books when I found this forum.
Don't give up on books! Lawn fertilization for dummies sounds like it was written just for you.:canadaflag:
eruuska
03-26-2006, 03:05 PM
I'm done with this thread.
Looks like you're a liar as well! I counted 7 posts after this one! Let's see if I can get you to make it 8! :cool2:
lawnaggie
03-31-2006, 09:48 PM
that thread was like a bad dream - or like being forced to listen rap music all day.
Microbe
04-02-2006, 07:34 AM
Rap I must say is a very intellactual "spelling lol" and difficult form of music. It not only gets deep down into your "real being," but it also is great for mental stress and therapy. Say what you want, but if you listen carefully to real MC's you may realize that much of what they say you can indeed relate to yet never knew how to word it. To me rap has always been a great way to get together and speak our minds, speak of what we see and what life has delt us, but enough of the rap.............
AS FAR AS FREDDY KRUGER GO FINGER YOURSELF WITH YOUR RAZOR HANDS AND DISAPEAR FROM THIS SITE! Your a disgrace to the industry and will only make a fool out of your self once your start selling customers unless there as pathetic as YOU! I hope you choke on granuels and never get your hands on a spreader to prevent serious dammage to the earths soil food web and ground water reserviour's. LET ME ASK YOU THIS FREDDY LOSER, HOW DOES A FERTILIZER WORK? WHAT DOES A FERTILIZER FEED? ALSO, WHAT DOES HERBICIDE DO TO THE GROUND? WHAT KINDA RESIDUES DOES IT LEAVE THAT WILL NEVER WASH OUT OF THE SOIL? Ur so arrogant its disgusting and people like you I would use to drain my compost tank when I'm finished!:usflag:
Xterminator
04-02-2006, 07:45 AM
Firstly,You need the spreader set up properly.I will give you tips which will achieve results that will leave your customers breathless.
Tip-1 Despite what the label recommends, set your spreader at three times the recommended rate.
Tip-2 You need to get an even uniform distribution of the fertilizer, this is achieved by using deliberation, walk one step at a time, slowlyyyy, and deliberately.
Tip-3 When you come to an end of a pass, stop and wait 30 seconds before make a turn,take your time making the turns, always leaving the spreader engaged.
Tip-4 If your have product in the spreader after completing an application on a customer's lawn, just pour it out in a pile on the customer's drive, it will work it way into the lawn.
You forgot to tell him to spray 1 gal.per weed when spot Treating
morturf
04-02-2006, 04:32 PM
After reading this thread....I some of us old timers might remember a guy like this. Lawrence Stone. Back but in Canada:canadaflag: . I will say no more.
fertit
04-04-2006, 10:48 AM
Hello Mr. Kruger- You can have some success contacting one of Canada's premier fertilizer companies at http://www.nu-groturf.com/. They can point you in the right direction. Another consideration is to hire an application firm proficient in applying the correct product at the right time/rate/etc. Good luck.
I will likely put in my ads "-Fertilizer" even though I know little about it.
You walk around with a spreader, first practicing on your own lawn ofcourse.
So I would like to know if I can buy fertlizer in bulk somewhere, home depot only has, I think they were 15lbs bags of something.
I just need some advice about buying a local supplier (please don't say Lesco), types to use (I live in Central Canada), and any more info you might be able offer this as a sideline to lawn care ie. types of spreaders, amount of fertilizer, is it ok to use home depot product.
I've also read about weed apps that are granular info on that would be welcome as well.:waving: :canadaflag:
battags
04-30-2006, 10:09 AM
Did you even read my original Post? If so what was not legitamate about that?
Don't tell what a Canadian really is.:usflag: We are just americans that prefer hockey to baseball. Plus we are grossly over taxed.
Come on, Canada is like a loft appartment above a really great party. Just because you can hear the music doesn't mean you are actually AT the party. Nice try.
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