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tomcl
03-25-2006, 05:13 PM
Hi Guys--

Neither of my suppliers have MP rotators yet--Who makes them and what should I expect to pay for them on-line--

Thanks

Beartooth
03-25-2006, 05:42 PM
The MP is produced by Walla Walla sprinklers out of none other than Walla Walla, Washington. I am currently purchasing them for around $5.00 ea. One source for them on-line is A & H Turf. Try googling them for their website.

Dirty Water
03-25-2006, 06:15 PM
What spray body are you all using for your Mp Rotators?

We can get them for about $7, so after the cost of a RB 1804 you are looking at about $9.50 per head, which is in PGP territory.

Beartooth
03-25-2006, 06:22 PM
We're using them typically on an 1804, however sometimes a Hunter Pro-spray. If you look at the cost of both spray body and nozzle, you are correct, a PGP or Rain Bird 5004 are very comparable in price. How would you rate the MP's overall performance?

jerryrwm
03-25-2006, 10:38 PM
Jon, If you're paying much over $5.00 for the MPs your supplier is boning you badly. If you check around you can get them for $4.70 or so. I think Ewing sells them for $4.95.

Putting them on an 1804, my cost runs around $6.20/head.

PurpHaze
03-26-2006, 10:19 AM
We also get them from Ewing for around $5 each. We use them on Toro 570 bodies.

drmiller100
03-27-2006, 12:02 AM
mp's just under 4 bucks each. price each isn't really significant.
they are quicker then gear drives to install, and adjust.
they won't spray as far as a gear drive, but they do cover move evenly.
and, you can run more per zone. a LOT more per zone, but you have to run them longer.

PurpHaze
03-27-2006, 08:06 AM
mp's just under 4 bucks each

Must be because you're a lot closer to Walla Walla than the rest of us? :laugh:

tomcl
03-27-2006, 10:08 AM
Where can these be gotten for under 4 bucks--

Thanks

Beartooth
03-28-2006, 12:04 AM
I think finding them for under $4.00 is going to be a stretch. The best pricing I have seen lately has been about$4.25 ea., and that is purchasing a significant quantity. Call A&H Turf's Irrigation division in Billings, Montana as you are in Forsyth. They will be more than willing to help you.

LawnJohn
03-28-2006, 04:08 PM
Ewing irrigation has them.. www.ewing1.com

I'm installing them in my own yard.

bicmudpuppy
03-30-2006, 03:51 PM
mp's just under 4 bucks each. price each isn't really significant.
they are quicker then gear drives to install, and adjust.
they won't spray as far as a gear drive, but they do cover move evenly.
and, you can run more per zone. a LOT more per zone, but you have to run them longer.
I'm missing some math here somewhere. PGP, 5004, CR500, etc. if you put a 30' nozzle in any of those heads, your gpm is going to match a MP3000. Your not going to run more per zone. And the specs I saw want 50psi for the 3000's for 30' coverage, so except for saving maybe a buck, what is the advantage on a new install? (and it doesn't work out to a buck for me because Ewing is quoting me $4.95, plus the body. RB5004 are about the same price)

Critical Care
03-30-2006, 09:06 PM
Around five buckeroos here as well.

Just because ol' Jonny Dirty Water is up in MP Rotatorland doesn't mean that he's going to get a good deal on them. I used to live in an area of California where just about every major US oil company had drilling operations going on, but was the price of gas cheaper? Nope. Actually, most of the time it was more expensive.

Jason Rose
03-30-2006, 10:02 PM
I can't find any real use for the MP rotators. LIke others said, and I found as well, if you have to replace the body PLUS the cost of the MP nozzle you may as well just use a 5004 with a L/A nozzle and do the same thing. You still shouldn't mix MPs with regular sprays anyway.

Kinda like today, I bought a case of 5004 heads and also grabbed some 3504's Found out that the 3504's are 50 cents HIGHER than the 5004's! Ummm, what's the point in messing with those then?

What burns me is the COST of the nozzles for the 1800 sprays. good lord, I just do little repair jobs and I have a $200 assortment of nozzles in my organizer! Anywhere from $1.00 to $1.45 each.... I always forget how much they cost, I change out plugged ones too often and just TOSS the clogged ones! Dang, that's a lot of $$$ Iv'e tossed, I will be hanging onto those and cleaning them out in my spare time!

Ewing Irrigation Net price on MP Rotators: MP1000/2000/3000- $4.49
MP1000T/2000T/3000T-$4.79
1804 body- $1.85

Total= $6.34 to $6.64

5004 cost: $8.66

Difference of: $2.32 to $2.02

bumper
03-30-2006, 10:31 PM
bought 14 today..assorted radius, 4.49 from Ewing, replacing some old Toro 300-01....ran them side by side for visual....quite the difference in gpm usage and numbers of heads I could actually put on a single valve.

Dirty Water
03-31-2006, 12:22 AM
Those Toro Streamrotors are notoriously finnicky.

I hate them.

PurpHaze
03-31-2006, 08:47 AM
bought 14 today..assorted radius, 4.49 from Ewing, replacing some old Toro 300-01....ran them side by side for visual....quite the difference in gpm usage and numbers of heads I could actually put on a single valve.

The 01 nozzles are notorious for clogging. We use only the 02 and 03 nozzles that hold up much better except in very sandy soil. Like Jon says, they can be finicky.

drmiller100
04-03-2006, 01:24 AM
ok,i bought a bunch last year, and got a raging deal. apparently they are about 5 bucks now.

how less zones? well, they cover more evenly, so I can cheat and do single cover instead of double/triple.
I can run mp's instead of sprays, and i can run mp's instead of gear drives. and, i can effectively mix spray solutions with gear solutions on the same zone.
and, when i go to drop the head down, i don't have to sit and think "a number 6 nozzle on a blah blah at 122.4 degrees is the same as a number 9 nozzle at 196 .2 degrees, but ......"

i focus a LOT more on facing south and sunshine now then I ever have, as i don't have to play games with nozzles.

and, i'm willing to run funny pipe further with the MP's then sprays.

they don't solve every problem, but for a small/medium residential, or weird areas, they are tough to beat IMO.

Dirty Water
04-03-2006, 01:25 AM
The 01 nozzles are notorious for clogging. We use only the 02 and 03 nozzles that hold up much better except in very sandy soil. Like Jon says, they can be finicky.


I've had 01's that refused to work right out of the box.

advanced irrigation
04-03-2006, 09:50 PM
so you say that $2.00 per head is worth the gear drives? i like the mp's because no one here installs them. that's a selling point for me. if i have 55 heads per system thats $110 that i could be putting im my pocket. Mp's are all i will install, unless a special situation requires me to do something different.