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CrewCutEnterprises
03-26-2006, 09:57 PM
Ok I had a customer ask me to quote filling his concrete pool with dirt or anything so he could use the area, he hasent used it in 10 years.

Any problems with filling it with fill dirt? Will it fill up with water and make like a sponge and make like a mud hole?? Thanks alot

Jason

Xterminator
03-26-2006, 10:01 PM
Ive heard of doing the same thing But i think you have to knock holes out of the bottom of the pool

ed2hess
03-26-2006, 10:22 PM
It is just like a big flower pot. We had a customer that had us do it and planted bushes and a tree in it. People do goofy things. I tried to get them to put a deck over it so when it was sold they could claim a pool.

moss2940
03-26-2006, 10:31 PM
I did it in at a house we use to own.
You definitely have to put a few holes in the bottom or it would be a mess. One other thing is you have to knock the side walls down a foot or two so they won't burn the grass when it is hot out.
I rented a jack hammer to do all of the demolition, it went fairly quickly since you can just let the areas you jack hammer fall into the pool, no clean up.
I had the dirt brought in and rented a Bobcat to move the dirt.
One other thing it took a lot of loads of dirt to fill it in.
I lived there for several years after we demolished it and never noticed anything unusual in the area after we filled it in.

sheshovel
03-26-2006, 10:33 PM
Some kind of drainage is absolutely necessary.

M RASCOE&SONS
03-26-2006, 10:37 PM
If You Could I Would Highly Recomend Demoing The Pool And Filling It In With Some Cheap Bankrun Or Common Fill,and Then Top Dress The Area With Loam If He Wants To Grow Grass On It.if You Cant Demo The Pool Just Make Sure You Have Plenty Of Drainage Before You Fill It In..

CrewCutEnterprises
03-26-2006, 10:41 PM
he wants to make a flowerbed out of it,

But i would assume a few holes in the bottom 2x2 would be ok?? Let me know

dcondon
03-26-2006, 11:21 PM
Some kind of drainage is absolutely necessary.

I agree with you sheshovel. Bring in the big equip and do away with it.

CrewCutEnterprises
03-26-2006, 11:40 PM
Well when someone is going to get rid of a pool and wants to pay 1000 to fill it with dirt,

I doubt they will go with the 2500 option of demoing it and then rebuilding the turf.

But maybe

dcondon
03-26-2006, 11:47 PM
Well when someone is going to get rid of a pool and wants to pay 1000 to fill it with dirt,

I doubt they will go with the 2500 option of demoing it and then rebuilding the turf.

But maybe

There was another Thread about this not long ago.

sheshovel
03-26-2006, 11:52 PM
You assume wrong it will take more holes than a few.I would bust the whole bottom up with a jackhammer.

CutRight
03-27-2006, 12:24 AM
you definatly need to make many and big holes in the bottom and sides of the pool, otherwise its going to turn into a swamp. it will still just be a pool with some dirt in it.

and fill it mostly with junk fill, process, or bank fill, compact as you go then, cover the top 6-10 inches with loam.

start2finish
03-27-2006, 09:17 PM
I never understand, my customer is only going to pay $1000 to have the job done. Since when do we allow our customers to price our jobs. It costs ****.** take it or leave it. If you need the work bad then make your number lower. Don't base your numbers on what someone will pay.

Xterminator
03-27-2006, 09:26 PM
The fill dirt and bobcat rental plus labor are you doing this for your Mom?

1000.00 seems Cheap to Me

TWUllc
03-27-2006, 09:34 PM
Jackhammer the heck out of the bottom.

AGLA
03-27-2006, 10:18 PM
:dizzy: Sheshovel and a Jack Hammer?

rustyb265
03-27-2006, 10:26 PM
You must either demo the pool or at least put drainage holes in the bottom. If you dont it will turn into a huge mud hole. Water must flow down!!!!:hammerhead:

jreiff
03-27-2006, 10:56 PM
Just do it right the first time, demo the whole thing, remove the concrete and fill in with fill material. Compact it and then top with loam. Easy enough.

Why take chances and try to jack hammer a whole here and there and then get a big rainfall and the thing is like a huge mud hole???

You have a pictures of how big the pool is? What it looks like?

4curbappeal
03-27-2006, 11:32 PM
Knock a bunch of holes throughout. Cleanout is minimul. And yes a lot of dirt!!!!!!!!!!!

Green Fields
03-28-2006, 09:18 AM
Was $1,000 the quote? It does seem a bit low. I charge $50 per yard for dirt and that would mean your using less than 20 yds since you have to rent a Bobcat and then labor for holes. The job seems more like $2,000

kootoomootoo
03-28-2006, 06:36 PM
Just throw a few grenades in.

sheshovel
03-28-2006, 07:19 PM
:dizzy: Sheshovel and a Jack Hammer?

Yea Sheshovel and a jackhammer is there a problem with you visualizing that ALGA?

carver
03-28-2006, 08:37 PM
DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT NOT HOLING IT.but put the holes in the sides.did one with holes in the bottom only water preasure pushed up through the holes.next spring did it right

CrewCutEnterprises
03-28-2006, 09:23 PM
rough idea..

250 for tandon of fill dirt, delivered

250 for rental of equipment, 500 for labor to use tractor to dump into pool

Any ideas

sheshovel
03-28-2006, 10:48 PM
What aabout the labor to bust the holes?Are you listening here?

AGLA
03-28-2006, 11:04 PM
Yea Sheshovel and a jackhammer is there a problem with you visualizing that ALGA?

To the contrary:o

Green Fields
03-28-2006, 11:35 PM
how much dirt are you getting delivered for $250? How big is this pool? How deep?

start2finish
03-29-2006, 12:29 AM
24 x 12 area 1.15 feet deep assuming this tandem can haul 12 yards. 12 yards on a 3 axle truck is optimistic. it had better be a small or shallow pool.
you also need to figure 15% shrinkage for compaction.

CrewCutEnterprises
03-29-2006, 10:01 AM
That was my """ GUESS""" I havent told the guy anything.

Id rather demo the whole thing. If it looks good when were done, and stays that way im happy, Im not about to half ass it. Thanks for the information

tylermckee
04-16-2006, 05:43 PM
bust a bunch of holes in the pool and just leave the concrete, then go to your local contractors and see if they need to get rid of any dirt, because chances are they will be able to give you all the dirt you can handle and haul it to you, all free of charge. then you just need to rent a bobcat or mini and a plate/jumping jack compactor. Preferably a mini so you can add nice even lifts. hell you might even be able to rent those from the same contractor for a cheap price if you are taking the dirt too.

AintNoFun
04-16-2006, 06:18 PM
15% shrinkage for compaction.


what a great sienfeld show.. shrinkage.. lol

stumpjumper
04-16-2006, 07:13 PM
i built my home on an old rural school site with a 10 ft. by 20 ft. storm cellar in the back yard. could'nt stop the cellar from leaking. drilled a grid of 1 inch holes with a hilti drill in the bottom and sides. caved the top in with a jackhammer and took the side walls down 1 ft. below grade. had fill sand delieverd by truck and dumped directly in the hole. filled half way, watered and compacted. filled the rest of the way and did the same. sprigged with burmuda. can't tell it was ever there. lots of labor, don't bid to cheap.

Mike33
04-17-2006, 12:31 AM
I did one 2 years ago at an apartment complex. Knock some hoes in the bottom and fill with fill compact as you would any other deep hole for final grade. Then we top soiled and planted. The worst problem we had was with the coping around it , it was a old pool and had all kind of rebar in the coping. mike